'Impeach Gretchen Whitmer' Petition Gains Support as Michigan Braces for COVID, Election Battles

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: Newsweek

A petition calling for the impeachment of Democratic Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer has gained traction in recent days.

The renewed activity with the Change.org petition, created months ago, follows Republican lawmakers introducing articles of impeachment on Thursday over Whitmer's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, and ahead of Michigan's Board of State Canvassers meeting Monday to decide whether to certify the presidential election—a normally little-noticed process now under intense scrutiny amid claims of election fraud by President Donald Trump and state Republicans.

The petition, entitled "Impeach Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer NOW," calls Whitmer "incompetent" and "deadly" while accusing her of "inadequate" leadership during the pandemic. Concerns include "unnecessary government overreach" and fighting with President Donald Trump for "political clout." As of Sunday, it has reached over 7,100 signatures.

The petition calls for impeaching Whitmer over refusing to allow medical professionals to prescribe hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine to specifically treat the coronavirus. However, there is no scientific evidence to suggest that this drug treats the virus. A March memo from Whitmer noted that an investigation would take place if medical professionals are caught prescribing the drug for treating the coronavirus, noting that an "intent to stockpile the drug may create a shortage for patients" who need it.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/impeach-gretchen-whitmer-petition-gains-support-as-michigan-braces-for-covid-election-battles/ar-BB1bfOHu?li=BBnb7Kz

[bluestarone]

1. Like we need another reason to HATE RETHUGLICONS

[sandensea]

12. And they certainly love being in a herd: one signs something, they ALL do - NO questions asked

Like lemmings, really.

[abqtommy]

2. In light of the recent vote results in MI I don't see enough support for this recall to succeed.

But usually busy people aren't causing other trouble.

[DENVERPOPS]

22. Exactly

two years in a row, the Republicans have tried to petition a recall of our Governor here in Colorado............They need something like 60K signatures????? Last year they got 2000 signatures, and this year they again failed miserably.......

[certainot]

43. there are 42 talk radio station streams linked to at this site and most are republican, howling

for trump https://mytuner-radio.com/radio/country/united-states/state/michigan/genre/talk-stations the site also provides quick links to stations in any state - like wisconsin and georgia and pennsylvania - for boycotters it's treasure (also gets music station streams)

and from fakenewsradio.org 18 of the many michigan republican talk stations are limbaugh stations that depend on mich state 11 and u of mich 7 to keep broadcasting sports on them - they need those associations, or the lack of anyone making a stink about it, to keep attracting advertisers, or avoid losing them

this is a way for dems all over the country to target the republicans only unique advantage in any state

[TryLogic]

3. They must think she has a lot of potential in the future, for more prominent roles in government.

Attach early and often.

[IADEMO2004]

4. She will still be right. They will still be wrong,

mean, ignorant, racist, nazi, gun humping, assholes

[BlueWavePsych]

5. Will likely backfire and guarantee her re-election.

Whitmer's job approval beats Trump's job approval in Michigan, poll finds

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/28/whitmer-job-approval-beats-trump-job-approval-michigan-poll/6051858002/

[CBHagman]

6. Still with the hydroxychloroquine! Listen to researchers, not Republicans...

...unless the researchers happen to be Republicans and follow the science. See what The Lancet and The New England Journal of Medicine had to say about whether hydroxychloroquine was useful or not. (Spoiler alert: not.)

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanrhe/article/PIIS2665-9913(20)30390-8/fulltext

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022926

The results suggest that patients in the hydroxychloroquine group were less likely to be discharged from the hospital alive within 28 days than those in the usual-care group (59.6% vs. 62.9%; rate ratio, 0.90; 95% CI, 0.83 to 0.98). Among the patients who were not undergoing mechanical ventilation at baseline, those in the hydroxychloroquine group had a higher frequency of invasive mechanical ventilation or death (30.7% vs. 26.9%; risk ratio, 1.14; 95% CI, 1.03 to 1.27). There was a small numerical excess of cardiac deaths (0.4 percentage points) but no difference in the incidence of new major cardiac arrhythmia among the patients who received hydroxychloroquine.

Most readable summary is from the National Institutes of Health.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/hydroxychloroquine-does-not-benefit-adults-hospitalized-covid-19

A National Institutes of Health clinical trial evaluating the safety and effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of adults with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) has formally concluded that the drug provides no clinical benefit to hospitalized patients. Though found not to cause harm, early findings in June when the trial was stopped indicated that the drug was not improving outcomes in COVID-19 patients.

[marieo1]

7. Hated Republicans

I really like Governor Gretchen Whitmer............who are these no good thugs trying to impeach her. She is a good governor trying to do what is right by her state. I pray for the day all the repubs just plain go away. They are worthless, all they want to do is cause trouble and fight with The Democratic party.

[DownriverDem]

13. They control Lansing

but not by a big margin. They sued and the MI SC took away her power that had been in place since 1945. So she is using the MI Health Department to pass Covid rules. She did it that way because the repub run legislature wont pass Covid guidelines. In January the MI SC will be in Democratic Party control. I hope we see some positive changes.

[catbyte]

36. Remember, back in 2012 republicans made it much more difficult to recall a politician after they

screwed us over with their middle-of-the-night Right-to-Fire legislation. They screwed themselves over. KArma. Sweet, sweet karma.

https://www.mlive.com/news/2012/12/legislatures_changes_to_recall.html

[DownriverDem]

50. Yes I do

remember that.

[lkinwi]

8. They tried it in WI also, and couldn't get enough signatures.

Let them sit out in the cold and try to get enough signatures.

[BadgerKid]

9. Suing for the right to revel in ignorance?

WHY? I cannot fathom it.

[winstars]

10. Sorry, 7,000 signatures aren't a lot of people...In a state Joe won by 140,000...

[lostnfound]

16. Can we get 7,000 signatures to impeach DeSantis? Would it make the news?

Easily, I suspect.
Would it be treated so seriously?

[angstlessk]

11. change.org says they have 392,517 signatures?

https://www.change.org/p/michigan-state-house-impeach-governor-whitmer/sign

That was quick...says it's looking for 500,000?

But how many are needed?

Be careful, if you have ever voted in change.org, they have your name, so don't inadvertently sign it.

[Jay25]

20. Uhh, yeah, angstlessk

Just want you to know I spent a couple of minutes trying to smash that gnat looking insect moving around on the screen. LOL

Hopefully that petition doesn’t gain much ground. Democrats need to go after those republicans trying to stop certification of Biden’s win, interfering with democracy because they don’t like the outcome of the legal election.

[Kaleva]

28. It's an internet petition. It's meaningless. Like an on line poll.

[angstlessk]

30. Sorry about the bug..I, too, sometimes swat at it.

But glad to learn it's not the official tally.

[Kaleva]

27. It's meaningless how many signatures they have. Change.org is an on line entity.

[angstlessk]

31. I am sooo relieved!

I still don't know how many signatures are needed?

[area51]

14. Talk about projection.

"... accusing [Whitmer] of 'inadequate' leadership during the pandemic." That really applies to #DementiaDonnie.

[LiberalFighter]

15. There won't be an impeachment if the Republicans have anything to say about it.

And 2/3 vote in the Senate is necessary.

The other option requires 1,062,646 signatures of valid Michigan voters to begin a different process. The people signing up on Change are likely not all Michigan voters.

[IsItJustMe]

17. Possible black mail extortion attempt against the governor to get her to flip Michigan for Trump?

Who knows? Would not put anything past these depraved dark ones.

[moreland01]

18. Colorado

A recent effort to impeach Gov Polis flopped when the organizer turned in ZERO signatures. This was their second attempt. The first failed when they also couldn't get enough signatures.

[IsItJustMe]

19. Two thirds of Michigan state senators would have to vote to convict.

Michigan state makeup:
22 Rep
16 Dem

total 38 (two thirds of 38 is 25)

They would need 25 to convict. That means that all of the Republicans would have to vote for it and they would have to flip three Democrats to do the same.

Seems highly unlikely.

[SunSeeker]

58. Thank you for that reassuring info. nt

[brooklynite]

21. I lost interest when I read "change.org".....

An online web petition is a meaningless “feel good” exercise for right wingers in their parent’s basements.

[NYC Liberal]

47. But it's great fodder for media outlets looking to stir up shit.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

53. Would it be a good guess that they solicit a contribution each time someone signs?

If so, it sounds like one hell of a grift, modeled after some of Trump's past tricks or television evangelists.

I wonder: Who the idiot is that thinks governors can determine what is medically approved to treat contagious diseases?

KY

[PatrickforO]

23. The forces of right-wing, white supremacist, evangelical HATE.

Let's hope she doesn't get recalled.

[Kaleva]

24. Repub leader in state House said there will be no impeachment of Gov. Whitmer

[Drunken Irishman]

25. Shitty fucking headline.

It implies that a significant amount of people support the idea - when, in reality, she remains largely popular in Michigan.

[dhill926]

26. just pissing in the wind....

so go ahead and waste your time and money, you urine stained wretches...

[Marthe48]

29. wingnuts getting therapy?

This is a tad more acceptable than trying to kidnap her and murder the Michigan government.

Still ridiculous to keep targeting her to please impeached traitor.

[Turbineguy]

32. She could always say

"these rules are in effect for people who don't want to get COVID-19. These rules need not apply to moron trump supporters who want to spread this disease."

[Frustratedlady]

33. Remember Trump and Jared, or whomever, bought millions of hydroxychloroquine in

anticipation that it would be used as treatment for COVID. Then, it was rejected as having little or no effect and people were warned against using it. Now, they are stuck with all those pills. They'll probably be close to the expiration date, but then their speculation could have been right. I'm sure the taxpayers got stuck with that bill.

Unless Jared and Trump thought they might make a ton of money off their bright idea. Just sayin'.

[catbyte]

34. 😂 Back in 2012, republicans made recalling a politician very, very difficult after their

vile Right-to-Fire law outraged Democrats and we vowed to recall those who betrayed workers. So here's what they did:

Big changes to recall process after right-to-work vote enrage Michigan Democrats

Updated Apr 03, 2019; Posted Dec 14, 2012

By David Eggert | [e-mail]

LANSING - Legislative Republicans early Friday approved big changes to the state's procedures for recalling elected officials, drawing withering criticism from Democrats who alleged it was an act of self-preservation in the wake of the passage of a right-to-work law earlier this week.

The legislation, approved 22-16 by the Senate around 9:30 p.m. Thursday, has a combined effect of making it more difficult to recall lawmakers, the governor and local officials, Democrats said. The GOP-controlled House, which approved an earlier version of the legislation last week, agreed with the changes on a 65-40 vote after 2 a.m. Friday.

One significant change would shorten the time to collect recall signatures from 90 to 60 days. Officials subject to recalls would have opponents instead of the existing system under which recall elections are an up-or-down vote.

snip

[and this is so ironic]

"Why are you making it more difficult to recall an officeholder?" said Senate Minority Leader Gretchen Whitmer, D-East Lansing, days after the GOP quickly finalized a bill prohibiting unions from requiring workers to pay dues or fees as a condition of employment. "We are willing to work on this with you. Yet you jam it through in dark of night on the last night of a lame-duck session. ... You're trying to inoculate yourselves from a recall."

snip

https://www.mlive.com/news/2012/12/legislatures_changes_to_recall.html

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Those arrogant assholes thought they had gerrymandered Michigan into permanent gop rule so even if a Democratic governor was elected the state Senate supermajority would override any veto. Whoopsie.

[SunSeeker]

35. CA Republicans have a petition going to impeach Gov. Newsom in CA.

They are such ignorant assholes.

[paleotn]

41. Wow! That's an even more ridiculous long shot.

[SunSeeker]

55. Republicans are relentless. Hate is an incredible energizer.

They live in their own right wing bubble. They think they represent the majority, even in California. It's a deranged cult.

[MizLibby]

45. "Impeach Jay Inslee" - there are 12 petitions on change.org started by crazy Washingtonians

If you don't get enough signatures on the first one, start another!

[Evolve Dammit]

37. The horror of it!! An ELECTED woman trying to save lives and have fair and free elections. Owww.

[mahina]

38. Funny how they always pick on women

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

39. The corresponding bumper sticker: "WE LOVE COVID"

The other one says, "WE WANT TO KILL OUR KIDS AND PARENTS!"

You can't fix stupid.

[hadEnuf]

44. Ever notice when a RWNJ goes on a shooting spree they usually start with their wife and kids?

There seems to be a pattern here.

[paleotn]

40. More crazy shit.

They ain't go the votes.

[hadEnuf]

42. Well kidnapping and murdering her on film didn't work out, so....

These vermin don't deserve the time of day. They deserve prison instead.

[iluvtennis]

46. This is absurb. Rethuglicans are disgusting.

[BHDem53]

48. This is nuts. Just for trying to protect the people of her state?

Now, to impeach kovid kristi NOem would make sense.

[Kaleva]

49. The on line petition could have 500 million signatures and it wouldn't have any legal standing

[Dorn]

51. Attempt to recall Gov Snyder(poisoner of Flint)failed this is attempt to recall protector of people

I never understood smoking -- it kills people
I never understood the Vietnam war -- it killed people
I don't understand the Iraq war -- it killed people

Gretchen is trying to save people. My mind is boggled.

[infullview]

52. Let's see, 7000 x $5 each per tinfoil hat....

[FakeNoose]

54. So now they want to follow the Constitution and legal procedures

It's interesting how the right-wingers can pick and choose which laws they want to follow, and which ones they'd rather not.

[Capn Sunshine]

56. So excellent job, comrades

It seems we all have forgotten Russia is working diligently to foster strife and chaos in our country, having weaponized Facebook years ago. They are flooding social media in the upper Midwest with this sort of tripe, and probably offering funding to those militia idiots as well.

Until we seize control of this, we will never get rid of COVID.
A Vaccine will help, but not if you refuse to take it because of (insert paranoid bullshit theory here).

We have got to mobilize our intel and fight back.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

57. Well so far it shows

there are at least 7,100 idiots in Michigan.............