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BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:55 AM Nov 2020

Scoop: Israeli military prepares for possibility Trump will strike Iran

Source: Axios

The Israel Defense Forces have in recent weeks been instructed to prepare for the possibility that the U.S. will conduct a military strike against Iran before President Trump leaves office, senior Israeli officials tell me.

The Israeli government instructed the IDF to undertake the preparations not because of any intelligence or assessment that Trump will order such a strike, but because senior Israeli officials anticipate “a very sensitive period” ahead of Biden's inauguration on Jan. 20.

The IDF's preparedness measures relate to possible Iranian retaliation against Israel directly or through Iranian proxies in Syria, Gaza and Lebanon, the Israeli officials said.

*snip*

While Pompeo was in the Gulf, U.S. Central Command announced that B-52 strategic bombers conducted a “short-notice, long-range mission into the Middle East to deter aggression and reassure U.S. partners and allies." That was seen as another signal to Iran.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/israeli-military-prepares-trump-iran-0d0a5725-c410-4f5c-a0ea-9c6f9add4966.html



Madness, sheer madness.
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Scoop: Israeli military prepares for possibility Trump will strike Iran (Original Post) BlueWavePsych Nov 2020 OP
Here we go again.... ugh secondwind Nov 2020 #1
Dear Iran, if you are attacked, as much as possible.... Mustellus Nov 2020 #26
I wouldn't put it past Trump. I really wouldn't. NCDem47 Nov 2020 #2
Yup, scorched earth here and abroad. BlueWavePsych Nov 2020 #3
During a Pandemic . . . Iliyah Nov 2020 #4
I hope someone can check his madness llashram Nov 2020 #5
The senate republicans seem incapable of controlling him. dhol82 Nov 2020 #6
Let's hope our military leaders will tell him NO if he tries something stupid. KS Toronado Nov 2020 #24
They won't outright tell him no, dware Nov 2020 #25
I hope you're right. dhol82 Nov 2020 #28
35 years in the USMC, dware Nov 2020 #29
Excellent! dhol82 Nov 2020 #30
in the voice of ron raygun," we always have to punish iran". said twice AllaN01Bear Nov 2020 #7
Iran is not Iraq, gab13by13 Nov 2020 #8
And Bibi sandensea Nov 2020 #22
Hope not, but he will go out with a bang and it wouldn't surprise me. Sicken, yes but base luvin' it Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #9
This kind of bang would be appropriate. Point the thing toward Florida: Judi Lynn Nov 2020 #32
A real Rocket Man! Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #33
China is also a player in this scenario bronxiteforever Nov 2020 #10
Putin wants to raise oil prices McCamy Taylor Nov 2020 #11
Iran has pretty sophisticated missile defense systems, gab13by13 Nov 2020 #12
Biden wants the Iran Nuclear Deal Bayard Nov 2020 #13
Why in the hell would the Military agree to something like this during a transition? chowder66 Nov 2020 #14
Who says the Military agrees with this? dware Nov 2020 #16
It was a rhetorical question. I really can't believe they would do this at this time chowder66 Nov 2020 #20
Ahh, ok, dware Nov 2020 #21
The civil unrest will be epic. roamer65 Nov 2020 #15
Wonder if the Millitary is in communication with the Biden transition team? bluestarone Nov 2020 #17
I think it's a safe bet to say there are comms with the Biden/Harris team. dware Nov 2020 #18
This is GOOD! bluestarone Nov 2020 #19
If that fuckhead does it, Biden's administration should airdrop him into Tehran Orrex Nov 2020 #23
netanyahoo's got a chubb. KG Nov 2020 #27
Not really all that unusual. Behind the Aegis Nov 2020 #31

Mustellus

(328 posts)
26. Dear Iran, if you are attacked, as much as possible....
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:54 PM
Nov 2020

.... please retaliate against Trump Inc properties.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
2. I wouldn't put it past Trump. I really wouldn't.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:03 AM
Nov 2020

Makes moves on Iran just days before January 20.

His "thought" process:

"You want the Presidency? Here. You deal with it. I'm out. Have fun with that little war I left ya."

BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
3. Yup, scorched earth here and abroad.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:17 AM
Nov 2020

Are Israel and the US planning to attack Iran?

This is important to keep in mind amid speculation – once again during a presidential lame duck period – that in his last few weeks in office, Donald Trump will either order US military action against Iran or give Israel a green light, as well as some assistance, to do so on its own.

The speculation has a number of catalysts. First was the firing of Mark Esper as secretary of defense this past week and the replacement of him and other top Pentagon officials with Trump ideologues. Some media outlets in the US have raised the possibility that Trump wanted to get Esper out of the way, so he could more easily carry out controversial military moves.

In addition, there is no doubt that there is a lot of coordination already taking place on Iran. Elliott Abrams, the administration’s top envoy on Iran, was in Israel this week for talks with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu; US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will be here next week for three days to continue those conversations; and on Thursday night, IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Aviv Kochavi held a video call with his US counterpart, chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley.

And then there was the interview that H.R. McMaster, Trump’s former national security adviser, gave to Fox News on Wednesday in which he raised the possibility that Israel – fearful of President-elect Joe Biden’s Iran policies – would attack Iran in the twilight of Trump’s term in office.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/are-israel-and-the-us-planning-to-attack-iran-649030

llashram

(6,265 posts)
5. I hope someone can check his madness
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:22 AM
Nov 2020

if he and Stephen Miller have cooked up something like this in their dual insanity. I think it does with those b-52's flying into the Middle East. It's not beyond the pale that the orange menace, at the prodding from the 'shadow potus', will try to do something like this to cause chaos and madness to reign.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
6. The senate republicans seem incapable of controlling him.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:32 AM
Nov 2020

We seem to be in a Dr. Strangelove scenario.

dware

(12,369 posts)
25. They won't outright tell him no,
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:20 PM
Nov 2020

but I'm absolutely positive that they are quite strongly and vigorously arguing against such an action, and, even if they can't talk him out of it, there are ways for the Commanding Officers to disobey such an order without actually disobeying such an order.

dware

(12,369 posts)
29. 35 years in the USMC,
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:18 PM
Nov 2020

alot of those years as an NCO, tells me I'm right, because I did it myself on occasion.

AllaN01Bear

(18,191 posts)
7. in the voice of ron raygun," we always have to punish iran". said twice
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:53 AM
Nov 2020

we put in our fair haird boy the shah and the people hated him.

gab13by13

(21,323 posts)
8. Iran is not Iraq,
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:59 AM
Nov 2020

Putin is the key. Putin is friends with Iran but he may allow Trump to start WW III while he sits back and watches.

sandensea

(21,627 posts)
22. And Bibi
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:39 PM
Nov 2020

He's been counting on the U.S. to fight his war with Iran since the '90s - and saw Cheeto as his best chance to make that happen (since everything else he tried, failed).

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
10. China is also a player in this scenario
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:50 AM
Nov 2020

unlike the moment when the US walked away from the Iranian nuclear deal. We just abandoned diplomatic efforts & once again allowed an opportunity for a rival to fill the void. A US mired in Iran, facing both Putin and Xi, is a perfect opportunity for both to strengthen their hands. US foreign policy is being pursued as a spasmodic release for the Orange Moron and not as a strategic endeavor meant to safeguard US interests.

The Iran-China 25-year Cooperation Program or Comprehensive Strategic Partnership between I.R. Iran, P.R China is an agreement on Iran-China relations drafted on 24th June, 2020 in Beijing between Iran and China. The original plan for cooperation had been brought by Chinese leader Xi Jingping in 2016 during a visit to Iran. President Hassan Rouhani signed the final draft of the program on June 23rd in a cabinet meeting and ordered the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to finalize the negotiations. As of July 2020, Iran's Parliament has yet to pass the deal but will likely follow suit. On October 1st 2020 President Rouhani sent a message to Xi Jinping, paramount leader of China about signing the program.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-China_25-year_Cooperation_Program#Introduction

gab13by13

(21,323 posts)
12. Iran has pretty sophisticated missile defense systems,
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:57 AM
Nov 2020

it won't be a walk in the park for Trump to just bomb the nuclear site, there is going to be a lot more involved.

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
13. Biden wants the Iran Nuclear Deal
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 12:43 PM
Nov 2020

Back in place. Therefore, trump has to make that impossible before he leaves. Not only scuttles Biden, but a blow against the American people for throwing him out--more war, more troops dying, more hardship for everyone. In a pandemic he already caused.

He's probably having a bunker built under Mar-a-Loogie right now.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
14. Why in the hell would the Military agree to something like this during a transition?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:07 PM
Nov 2020

This will not bode well for them or the Sadistic Administration.

dware

(12,369 posts)
16. Who says the Military agrees with this?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:14 PM
Nov 2020

I'll bet dollars to donuts that the JCoS are arguing quite forcefully against this.

Believe me when I say that there are ways the Military can refuse to obey an order without actually refusing to obey an order.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
20. It was a rhetorical question. I really can't believe they would do this at this time
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:25 PM
Nov 2020

but if they did it would forever hurt their standing with the majority of Americans.

dware

(12,369 posts)
21. Ahh, ok,
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:31 PM
Nov 2020

I get it, but as I said, the Military have ways of refusing to obey an order without actually refusing to obey an order, so I wouldn't worry to much about Pissolini attacking Iran, be alert, but not overly worried.

The JCoS do not want a war in Iran, as with the Officers Corps, and the majority of NCO's or non NCO's, which would certainly spread throughout the ME and quite possibly the world.

dware

(12,369 posts)
18. I think it's a safe bet to say there are comms with the Biden/Harris team.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:21 PM
Nov 2020

What some here don't realize, especially those that haven't served in the Military, is that there are ways Commanding Officers can refuse to obey an order without actually refusing to obey an order.

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
23. If that fuckhead does it, Biden's administration should airdrop him into Tehran
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 01:45 PM
Nov 2020

Stick a bow on him and a note saying “Indulge Yourselves.”

Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
31. Not really all that unusual.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:43 PM
Nov 2020

However, I think the bigots, all of them, are going to be disappointed. There will not be war with Iran, just more saber-rattling.

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