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fantase56

(495 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:54 PM Nov 2020

America must restore fiscal sanity

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: The Hill

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"Now that Joe Biden is set to be the next president, time for the country to focus on the future. It looks like Republicans will control the Senate after the two Georgia runoffs in January, and the Democrats will control the House by a smaller margin. These close election outcomes demonstrate that the country is divided and there is no mandate for action based on the agenda of either party. It also means that any major legislation will need bipartisan support and difficult decisions could take special mechanisms."

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"Putting our finances in order means difficult choices on revenue, spending, investments, and reforms to programs such as Medicare and Social Security. Such comprehensive reforms are highly unlikely to occur in the normal legislative process. As a result, the president should use the bully pulpit to create a new Fiscal Sustainability Commission, and the bipartisan House Problem Solvers Caucus should support this effort."



Read more: https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/527978-america-must-restore-fiscal-sanity



Guess now that Democrats are in charge it's time for Republicans to scream "fiscal responsibility"
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America must restore fiscal sanity (Original Post) fantase56 Nov 2020 OP
Fuck that. The wealthy and corporations can return their fucking bail outs and tax breaks. Autumn Nov 2020 #1
+1 myohmy2 Nov 2020 #31
BY DAVID WALKER, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR -- 11/30/20 01:00 PM EST maxsolomon Nov 2020 #2
Right. This should be in Op/Ed pfitz59 Nov 2020 #24
Restore fiscal sanity - I guess I missed this same message from the Hill when 42bambi Nov 2020 #3
So much brazen bullshit. SaveOurDemocracy Nov 2020 #4
David Walker was CEO of the Peterson Foundation scipan Nov 2020 #5
I'm all for "fiscal responsibility"... LudwigPastorius Nov 2020 #6
Step One: Enhance Revenues! ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #16
Because the thought of thier money going to someone else drives them nuts William Seger Nov 2020 #28
Throw this back in their damn faces (republicans)...they're the ones that need to hear this damn SWBTATTReg Nov 2020 #7
Right on time mahina Nov 2020 #8
MARK THE DATE: 06 Nov 2020 Grins Nov 2020 #12
I think a full audit/investigation is required... stillcool Nov 2020 #9
How about the f'n defense budget? Tax cuts for billionaires and corporations? Tax loopholes? No, niyad Nov 2020 #10
The Hill....................enough said RW rag, where were they in 2017 when the tax cuts was passed turbinetree Nov 2020 #11
Yes! Let's restore sanity Midnightwalk Nov 2020 #13
So predictable hibbing Nov 2020 #14
There will be fiscal sanity until Cryptoad Nov 2020 #15
And that day is unlikely to come, until SERIOUS campaign finance reform is enacted sandensea Nov 2020 #17
I have a sickenig feeling that,,,, Cryptoad Nov 2020 #18
God help us all. sandensea Nov 2020 #20
Wait, What? fiscal responsibility?? isn't that what the repukes scream about and the mitch96 Nov 2020 #19
This is an opinion piece, not LBN. brooklynite Nov 2020 #21
Trim the military...give em what they want n/t WA-03 Democrat Nov 2020 #22
Exactly. Easy way to cut defense spending.... paleotn Nov 2020 #30
Yes it is time for fiscal responsibility! Eliminate the Trump KPN Nov 2020 #23
Tax Wealth Accumulation Not "Income" DanieRains Nov 2020 #26
Who the hell is David Walker????? infullview Nov 2020 #25
Just need to go to old fashioned tax rates, I think 1963 or so LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #27
Paying for what we want to do? Not a problem. paleotn Nov 2020 #29
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Nov 2020 #32

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
1. Fuck that. The wealthy and corporations can return their fucking bail outs and tax breaks.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 02:59 PM
Nov 2020

That the only fiscal sanity I will support. Fuck that.

myohmy2

(3,721 posts)
31. +1
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 07:19 PM
Nov 2020

...

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
2. BY DAVID WALKER, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR -- 11/30/20 01:00 PM EST
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:04 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:37 PM - Edit history (1)

THE VIEWS EXPRESSED BY CONTRIBUTORS ARE THEIR OWN AND NOT THE VIEW OF THE HILL

Not LBN. Please Self-Delete.

pfitz59

(12,704 posts)
24. Right. This should be in Op/Ed
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:46 PM
Nov 2020

Not LBN

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
3. Restore fiscal sanity - I guess I missed this same message from the Hill when
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:11 PM
Nov 2020

President Elect Trump was about to be sworn in. Not.

SaveOurDemocracy

(4,566 posts)
4. So much brazen bullshit.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:23 PM
Nov 2020

scipan

(3,041 posts)
5. David Walker was CEO of the Peterson Foundation
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:32 PM
Nov 2020

2008-2010. Need I say more?

LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
6. I'm all for "fiscal responsibility"...
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:32 PM
Nov 2020

as long as it doesn't come out of Social Security, Medicare, and other social services.

If Republicans are so worried about the deficit now, they can make up the difference with a 90% marginal tax rate and a slash of the Pentagon's budget.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
16. Step One: Enhance Revenues!
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:01 PM
Nov 2020

Why do these folks always equate fiscal sanity with spending cuts first?
Leave services be, work on increasing revenues, then see what happens.
But in their definition, fiscal sanity must include hurting someone vulnerable.

William Seger

(12,443 posts)
28. Because the thought of thier money going to someone else drives them nuts
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 06:39 PM
Nov 2020

Their "solution" is simply based on what problem they're trying to solve.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
7. Throw this back in their damn faces (republicans)...they're the ones that need to hear this damn
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:45 PM
Nov 2020

msg.

mahina

(20,645 posts)
8. Right on time
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:45 PM
Nov 2020

Like clockwork

Grins

(9,459 posts)
12. MARK THE DATE: 06 Nov 2020
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 04:26 PM
Nov 2020

The date the first Republican, Lindsey Graham, said the debt was the GOP’s new priority.

Just days after it became apparent a Democrat would occupy the White House.

(Cruz admitted the same in October.)

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
9. I think a full audit/investigation is required...
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:49 PM
Nov 2020

see where all the money's gone over the last 4 years. How's that for fiscal responsibility Republicans?

niyad

(132,440 posts)
10. How about the f'n defense budget? Tax cuts for billionaires and corporations? Tax loopholes? No,
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:49 PM
Nov 2020

with you f'n bastards, it is ALWAYS Medicare and Social Security.

turbinetree

(27,551 posts)
11. The Hill....................enough said RW rag, where were they in 2017 when the tax cuts was passed
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 03:57 PM
Nov 2020


Do they know what has been happening to this country under 40+ years of fucking "AUSTERITY" being shoved down the collective throats of the taxpayers by corporate BS...........I know and read some fucking corporations have paid not One fucking dime in taxes................is that "fiscal responsibilities".................... The Hill, please tell us that was "fiscal responsibilities" or how about banks just plain screwing people over in 2008, oh I don't know to the tune of 800 billion dollars and guess who bailed them out.....The Hill................

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
13. Yes! Let's restore sanity
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 04:29 PM
Nov 2020
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At the same time tax rates on the top 1%, let alone the top 0.1% have been slashed.

Restoring fiscal sanity obviously means the wealthiest should be paying a lot more.

hibbing

(10,598 posts)
14. So predictable
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 04:51 PM
Nov 2020

Everything about that putrid party is so predictable. Deficit and debt will be the major contributions to our political discourse for the next four years with the corporate media driving the agenda.


Peace

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
15. There will be fiscal sanity until
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 04:54 PM
Nov 2020

gubermint quits socializing US Businesses and corporations!

sandensea

(23,343 posts)
17. And that day is unlikely to come, until SERIOUS campaign finance reform is enacted
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:02 PM
Nov 2020

As long as we have slush funds like SuperPacs and "victory funds" - which can be used for personal expenses with no reporting required (i.e. Latin America-style bribes) - nothing will change.

Which is just how Big Bidness likes it.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
18. I have a sickenig feeling that,,,,
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:16 PM
Nov 2020

this pandemic next year is going to kick our asses off the edge into the abyss. and who knows what will come out the other side. I bet it will not look like anything economically and politically that we now have.

sandensea

(23,343 posts)
20. God help us all.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:22 PM
Nov 2020

I try to stay optimistic (which has been easier since the election) - but I hear you.

Anything could happen.

mitch96

(15,804 posts)
19. Wait, What? fiscal responsibility?? isn't that what the repukes scream about and the
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:17 PM
Nov 2020

Dem's fix? Like many have said we have a shit pot of money sitting right there with that bullshit 1%'er tax break. Corporate loop holes too.. fuck'em...
m

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
21. This is an opinion piece, not LBN.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:35 PM
Nov 2020

WA-03 Democrat

(3,355 posts)
22. Trim the military...give em what they want n/t
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:36 PM
Nov 2020

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
30. Exactly. Easy way to cut defense spending....
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 06:54 PM
Nov 2020

Quit pushing weapon systems on them that they don't want. Just because it's built in so-and-so's district doesn't mean it's necessary or even wanted.

KPN

(17,377 posts)
23. Yes it is time for fiscal responsibility! Eliminate the Trump
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:38 PM
Nov 2020

tax cuts, raise the income cap subject to SS tax, raise tax rates progressively on incomes higher than $x00,000,and institute a wealth tax. That should do it!

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
26. Tax Wealth Accumulation Not "Income"
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 06:22 PM
Nov 2020

Why should workers pay all the taxes because they have to claim all their income?

The Koch Brothers went from 20 billion to 80 billion and didn't pay squat in income taxes. Or Social Security. Or Medicare.

Our tax system is a joke.

infullview

(1,129 posts)
25. Who the hell is David Walker?????
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 06:17 PM
Nov 2020

Seems like all this guy does is write articles about fiscal responsibility. Here's another one. Given that David Walker has no internet presence, and any search on this name returns information about a famous abolitionist, I'm guessing this isn't a real person. More likely written by a conservative think tank.

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/450674-it-is-time-to-confront-fiscal-failure

LiberalArkie

(19,807 posts)
27. Just need to go to old fashioned tax rates, I think 1963 or so
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 06:28 PM
Nov 2020

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
29. Paying for what we want to do? Not a problem.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 06:52 PM
Nov 2020

Roll back not only the Donnie tax cuts, but the Bush tax cuts. Go back to 1999 tax structure. There. Fixed.

Omaha Steve

(109,230 posts)
32. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 07:19 PM
Nov 2020

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