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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,985 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 04:49 PM Dec 2020

Trump allies to Michigan judge: Force Gov. Whitmer to overturn Biden's win, give state to president

Source: USA Today

Allies of President Donald Trump want a federal court in Michigan to force state leaders to set aside election results and award its 16 electoral votes to the president.

A separate conservative group also wants the Michigan Supreme Court to invalidate the results that show President-elect Joe Biden won the state.

The latest lawsuit, filed in the Eastern District of Michigan and before the state's highest court, rely on unfounded allegations of widespread fraud and misconduct that judges in the state and across the country have previously rejected. Neither has a high likelihood of success.

There is no evidence of mass fraud or wrongdoing that affected election operations in Michigan or elsewhere. Biden earned roughly 154,000 more votes than Trump in Michigan.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-allies-to-michigan-judge-force-gov-whitmer-to-overturn-biden-s-win-give-state-to-president/ar-BB1bwGhZ?li=BB141NW3&ocid=DELLDHP



I don't think the courts can do that you big baby.
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Trump allies to Michigan judge: Force Gov. Whitmer to overturn Biden's win, give state to president (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2020 OP
Based on what?!? TDale313 Dec 2020 #1
Based on the Giuliani Law of Voting Irregularity... Purrfessor Dec 2020 #5
When Trump called in to Giuliani's show the other day SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #35
You're kidding?! What is the Cha Dec 2020 #41
The hearing SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #43
TY, SC! Countdown until this Cha Dec 2020 #44
Bruised fee-fees? 11 Bravo Dec 2020 #14
When are some of these lawyers going to pay for all these frivolous law suits? LiberalLovinLug Dec 2020 #25
This is pure DownriverDem Dec 2020 #29
January 20th? thecrow Dec 2020 #45
based on Trump's "Bullying has always worked for me" defense Skittles Dec 2020 #34
Absolutely....nothing. paleotn Dec 2020 #37
Based on "But I waaaannnnnnnnniiiitttt! Wanna win wanna win wanna wiiiin!!" Grokenstein Dec 2020 #40
Maybe they should say Pretty Please C_U_L8R Dec 2020 #2
trump madness spreads... Bayard Dec 2020 #3
Maybe it's time to up our game Grokenstein Dec 2020 #42
These completely bogus allegations Ohiogal Dec 2020 #4
This is the point where I start flipping pages and speed reading Biophilic Dec 2020 #6
Looney-ville . . . Iliyah Dec 2020 #7
If My Neighbor... jayfish Dec 2020 #8
Election Fraud News: Mayberry, Michigan FrodosNewPet Dec 2020 #9
In related news: FrodosNewPet Dec 2020 #11
They should only do this if the Edison County council alleges fraud. whopis01 Dec 2020 #10
Edison County residents are probably gonna weigh in?? Cept there is no Edison County Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #12
Has Bowling Green certified yet? 2naSalit Dec 2020 #30
This will be a real funny episode in the mini-series. Baked Potato Dec 2020 #13
"Conservative group" attempts to invalidate election results? wtf? oasis Dec 2020 #15
Trump's lawsuits have already lost numerous times. Lonestarblue Dec 2020 #16
Are they stupid or something? /nt bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #17
The only bright spot here... jmowreader Dec 2020 #18
This is the Sidney Powell 'Kraken' lawsuit from last week, for those following along... Princess Turandot Dec 2020 #19
They "want"? lonely bird Dec 2020 #20
The Giuliani principle Oscarthegreat Dec 2020 #21
"If'n it twernt fixt, I wudnit say it wuz, now wudeye." marble falls Dec 2020 #22
Just FEEL the desperation..... Brainfodder Dec 2020 #23
LOL catbyte Dec 2020 #24
Gee, that sounds like democracy in action. WTF? Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #26
Spamming up the courts with BS lawsuits. marmar Dec 2020 #27
This is one online poll that thing will not be retweeting. catbyte Dec 2020 #28
Okay so 101% it is! 2naSalit Dec 2020 #31
Trump needs to be charged. We can't just let this stuff go. Joinfortmill Dec 2020 #32
He needs bdamomma Dec 2020 #33
OR ELSE WHAT -- the judges should watch their backs? This amounts to attempted coercion ancianita Dec 2020 #36
Have these allegations not been dealt with, as the article says, in what is known as.. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #38
So there all those people out there who are as ignorant TNNurse Dec 2020 #39

Purrfessor

(1,188 posts)
5. Based on the Giuliani Law of Voting Irregularity...
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 04:59 PM
Dec 2020

which states, “the less the evidence the more egregious the crime.”

SCantiGOP

(13,870 posts)
35. When Trump called in to Giuliani's show the other day
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 09:53 PM
Dec 2020

He said at one point, “I don’t even know why we would even need evidence, it’s so obvious.”

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
25. When are some of these lawyers going to pay for all these frivolous law suits?
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 07:53 PM
Dec 2020

With fines and threats to take away their licences.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
29. This is pure
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 08:41 PM
Dec 2020

bullsh**. The votes have been certified. Both parties at their state conventions pick their electors. Whichever candidate wins, their party's electors vote in the Electoral College. They are waiting to do that on Dec 14th for Biden who won by 154,000 votes. Governor Whitmer is not going to go against the will of the voters. I sometimes just want to scream when will it end?

Grokenstein

(5,723 posts)
40. Based on "But I waaaannnnnnnnniiiitttt! Wanna win wanna win wanna wiiiin!!"
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 10:50 PM
Dec 2020

Buckle up, folks, January gonna be wild.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
2. Maybe they should say Pretty Please
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 04:52 PM
Dec 2020

Cause they've run out of every other possible option... including kicking screaming tantrums

Ohiogal

(31,998 posts)
4. These completely bogus allegations
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 04:56 PM
Dec 2020

and frivolous lawsuits are just making conservatives look like the whiny fools that they are.

Biophilic

(3,654 posts)
6. This is the point where I start flipping pages and speed reading
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 05:01 PM
Dec 2020

because the author has totally lost control of the narrative.

They seem to be stuck in some idea and not one of their early readers had the courage to tell them "cut" 2/3 of it. It's boring and makes no sense. I love suspense novels, but they have to be related to reality or I just get bored. Unfortunately, I'm not 'bored' with Trump and his attorneys. I just want them to shut the F up. I'm more than tired of hearing about them. This 'story' has gone beyond the bounds of believable.

I just wish I could flip through these 'sections' of the story and get back to a believable narrative.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
8. If My Neighbor...
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 05:02 PM
Dec 2020

had survey done and discovered that 2 feet of my lot was actually his lot and built a fence encompassing that two feet; how long do you think the local court would put up with me constantly suing him, based on whatever I as thinking that day, to remove the fence before kicking my ass to the curb or worse? This is a mockery!

FrodosNewPet

(495 posts)
9. Election Fraud News: Mayberry, Michigan
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 05:08 PM
Dec 2020

In a sworn affidavit, a witness claims that they saw someone carrying multiple bags from DoorDash enter a publicly inaccessible office, but no one asked the witness if they wanted anything to eat, which is evidence that the delivery was illegal votes for Joe Biden and not the Beef Pad Prik, medium spice that the witness dropped SEVERAL hints about all throughout the vote counting process.

Lou Dobbs' guest Sydney Powell will be on the whole hour to discuss the ramifications of this breaking development and the dire threat it poses to Democracy, Inc. Meanwhile, Rudy Giuliani will be hosting a formal hearing for Michigan GOP lawmakers and Miss USA contestants at Goober's Filling Station on Old Towne Road on Wednesday, Dec 2, 2020 at 3:00 am.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/01/election-lawsuit-cites-fraud-michigan-county-does-not-exist/6475368002/

FrodosNewPet

(495 posts)
11. In related news:
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 05:17 PM
Dec 2020

Trump campaign attorney Joe DiGenova told Fox News common tater Sean ("The Bean&quot Hannity that he personally plans on visiting everyone in the United States and "beating their ***es black and blue if they don't agree that Donald Trump won more bigly than anyone ever in history".

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)
12. Edison County residents are probably gonna weigh in?? Cept there is no Edison County
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 05:19 PM
Dec 2020

Anywhere in the country

oasis

(49,386 posts)
15. "Conservative group" attempts to invalidate election results? wtf?
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 05:37 PM
Dec 2020

"Democracy" is just a word Republicans say when things are being said.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
16. Trump's lawsuits have already lost numerous times.
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 05:57 PM
Dec 2020

When will judges get tired of the same losing lawsuits filed by different parties and fine the hell out of these people for filing frivolous lawsuits over claims that have already been adjudicated? It has been shown over and over that they have no evidence.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
18. The only bright spot here...
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 06:28 PM
Dec 2020

...is that the "no more election challenges" date is in a week. After that, she can file all the lawsuits she wants and they'll be rejected by the clerk - regardless of any merit (or lack thereof) that they might have.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
19. This is the Sidney Powell 'Kraken' lawsuit from last week, for those following along...
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 07:09 PM
Dec 2020

It was announced last week along with one in Georgia, but it may not have been physically filed until this week. (It was announced before it was filed, and some sort of copy was given out by Powell.)

They've since announced one in Wisconsin; I don't know the filing status of that one.

 

Oscarthegreat

(121 posts)
21. The Giuliani principle
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 07:28 PM
Dec 2020

If a state voted for Biden/Harris, the vote was rigged. Every state that went to Biden should be called for Trump. The only people who voted for Biden were communists and illegal immigrants. Trump won the entire electoral college. Trump is incapable of losing even one electoral vote unless there's massive fraud against him.

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
28. This is one online poll that thing will not be retweeting.
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 08:35 PM
Dec 2020

From the MSN article in the OP:





BTW, I don't think it's quite accurate that "neither lawsuit stands a high likelihood of success;" I'd say they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
33. He needs
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 09:48 PM
Dec 2020

to be charged to the fullest extent of the law, this pardon shit has got to go. If not, there will be another fascist leader who will succeed.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
36. OR ELSE WHAT -- the judges should watch their backs? This amounts to attempted coercion
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 09:54 PM
Dec 2020

of the judiciary. Spam lawsuits and coercion.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
38. Have these allegations not been dealt with, as the article says, in what is known as..
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 10:14 PM
Dec 2020

..."full faith and credit?" That a recognized and appropriate judicial body has found this to be without merit, which should mean that all courts of similar "rank" (not appeals courts, for example) will refuse to even hear the case, barring credible new evidence that will be compelling enough to reopen the case.

I stipulate that I am NO expert in US law.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
39. So there all those people out there who are as ignorant
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 10:49 PM
Dec 2020

and delusional as Trump??? They actually think he can stay in office??? They do not understand elections? Or cannot count???

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