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riversedge

(70,321 posts)
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 06:33 PM Dec 2020

Initial COVID vaccine supply 10% of original government promise

Source: axios




4 hours ago - Health


The federal government plans to stagger shipments of coronavirus vaccines to help ensure that states don't run out of supplies, the Washington Post reports.

Why it matters: The Trump administration's current plans would make 35 million to 40 million COVID vaccine doses available — instead of the 300 million doses originally promised. The "lower-than-anticipated allocations have caused widespread confusion and concern in states," the Post reports.

Local and state officials are rushing to change vaccination plans.
The number of vaccines available could pick up in January and February but will still be lower than the administration originally projected.

Pfizer and BioNTech have halved their original estimates of how many of their coronavirus vaccines would be shipped globally by the end of this year, citing supply-chain issues, the Wall Street Journal reported last week.
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Read more: https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-vaccine-scarcity-b058fe58-697b-4031-b1ad-23b1a7444d10.html

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Initial COVID vaccine supply 10% of original government promise (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2020 OP
Shocking. soothsayer Dec 2020 #1
Don't know when 300M was promised, but the news for last week Hoyt Dec 2020 #2
K means thousand not million. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2020 #5
Yeah left off a few zeros, sorry. Hoyt Dec 2020 #6
The Minions Overpromised ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #20
+ agree - incompetent trump admin overpromised w/o checking with the manufacturers. nt iluvtennis Dec 2020 #28
300 M in aggregate was promised in an HHS press release... brooklynite Dec 2020 #26
Operation Warped speed is just a burp. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #3
Warp Speed? qazplm135 Dec 2020 #8
True. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #11
Warp speed!!! Right into the brick wall called reality. ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #4
I smell Jared. He's screwed every other assignment up. Why not this? underpants Dec 2020 #7
Screwed up or attempting to MONETIZE the distribution?? NoMoreRepugs Dec 2020 #9
He'll screw that up to underpants Dec 2020 #19
I believe the US has ordered and paid for 300M DeminPennswoods Dec 2020 #10
The US ordered 300 mil doses from Astra Zeneca and pledged money womanofthehills Dec 2020 #24
I wonder if this vaccine is the one that needs to be kept at ultra cold conditions... SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #12
It is GB_RN Dec 2020 #17
Thanks! SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #18
Pfizer vaccine has to be stored in ultra cold temps, DeminPennswoods Dec 2020 #34
Thank you, I will try and grab a copy of that show and watch. I do agree w/ you on the 300 M number SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #35
Let's see MSM hold trump's feet to the fire on this one Cozmo Dec 2020 #13
So surprising from the Trump administration. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2020 #14
Up to this point the Trump crew has totally failed with COVID. BarbD Dec 2020 #15
Let me guiess who gets FIRST shipment bluestarone Dec 2020 #16
Maybe most are being shipped to Jareds PPE supply company LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #21
fucking cretinous incompetence apparently has no cure, so full replacement surgery 1/20/21 bringthePaine Dec 2020 #22
Getting the vaccine into people's arms, gab13by13 Dec 2020 #23
Pres elect Biden knows how messed up tRump's vac response is and his warnings are turning out to be yaesu Dec 2020 #25
CA allocated 300k Nasruddin Dec 2020 #27
New York has only been allocated 170K. I think this is the initial shipment which is 6M or so. Hoyt Dec 2020 #29
You Can Bet RobinA Dec 2020 #33
Is there anything critical Republicans can't royally screw up? dlk Dec 2020 #30
Over promise and under deliver is the Trump way. Renew Deal Dec 2020 #31
It's Pretty Useless RobinA Dec 2020 #32
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Don't know when 300M was promised, but the news for last week
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 06:36 PM
Dec 2020

has been 40M to start. More and more later.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
5. K means thousand not million.
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 06:41 PM
Dec 2020

The goal has been 300 million doses since the beginning, Trump has repeated it over and over.

ProfessorGAC

(65,219 posts)
20. The Minions Overpromised
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 08:09 PM
Dec 2020

The companies never promised anything close to that.
They projected more than they will actually do, but 4 prior batches didn't meet specs (a problem now solved) and there are current limitations on raw material. (You know, the stuff the Warp Speed geniuses were supposed to be heading off.)
So, they'll end up producing only about 70% of what they thought by EOY.
But, it was PINO & the gang that promised enough vaccine so everyone in the US would get a first dose by January.
You're correct that no company ever made such a preposterous promise.

sheshe2

(83,934 posts)
11. True.
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 07:11 PM
Dec 2020

Then again we may not need as many doses as we anticipated. The death toll is rising at an alarming rate.

underpants

(182,921 posts)
7. I smell Jared. He's screwed every other assignment up. Why not this?
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 06:45 PM
Dec 2020

Jared screwed up somehow. Bank on it.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
10. I believe the US has ordered and paid for 300M
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 07:10 PM
Dec 2020

doses, but they were never going to come in one big initial shipment. That's why the CDC met to develop a vaccine distribution priority list. It's also why "the general public" has been told not to expect their turn for a vaccination for 4-5 months.

Since the approval data was submitted, the news has been 30-40M doses. It's been reported those are only enough to cover healthcare workers and LTC residents.

womanofthehills

(8,780 posts)
24. The US ordered 300 mil doses from Astra Zeneca and pledged money
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 09:08 PM
Dec 2020

However, Astra Zeneca seems to be having problems with their vaccine and in one part of the study it was only 62% effective. Pfizer and Moderna sound way better. Also Astra Zeneca’s Vaccine is much cheaper than the other 2 because it sounds like it doesn’t need freezing temps.

SWBTATTReg

(22,174 posts)
12. I wonder if this vaccine is the one that needs to be kept at ultra cold conditions...
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 07:30 PM
Dec 2020

if so, I suspect that this is hurting the rapid deployment of this vaccine, but of course I wouldn't be surprised if Jarod K. screwed it up somehow...

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
34. Pfizer vaccine has to be stored in ultra cold temps,
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 06:59 AM
Dec 2020

Moderna vaccine does not.

If you have a chance, you should watch the Dateline special on the vaccines were developed and what the distribution plans are.

There was never going to be 300M initial doses.

SWBTATTReg

(22,174 posts)
35. Thank you, I will try and grab a copy of that show and watch. I do agree w/ you on the 300 M number
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 12:46 PM
Dec 2020

...rather far-fetched, eh, but then again, anything associated w/ the trump admin. is 'far-fetched' and unbelievable, if the 300 M estimate came from the trump admin or trump.

Take care and be safe, and thanks again!

BarbD

(1,193 posts)
15. Up to this point the Trump crew has totally failed with COVID.
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 07:42 PM
Dec 2020

It's impossible to think that all of sudden some magic genie is going to wave a wand to produce order out of chaos with the vaccine.

There will be no logistical success until January 20th.

gab13by13

(21,414 posts)
23. Getting the vaccine into people's arms,
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 09:05 PM
Dec 2020

would be a logistical nightmare with a competent administration. I have a gut feeling that Trump isn't prepared. Too bad Trump didn't put someone in charge of procurement and distribution like Russell Honore instead of Jared.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
25. Pres elect Biden knows how messed up tRump's vac response is and his warnings are turning out to be
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 09:33 PM
Dec 2020

spot on

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
27. CA allocated 300k
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 09:38 PM
Dec 2020

The Sacramento Bee among others is reporting that CA was allocated 327k doses for December
[link:https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article247512730.html|
That's about 1% of the "current plans" cited in the original article.

If one allocates doses by population, CA should get 10%.

327k doses (that is, enough for 163k people) doesn't come close to covering the health professionals targeted for the first wave of vaccinations.

Since this is just Pfizer's portion we have to add the Moderna allocation. Which is unknown, & will be at least 1 week later (ie into the holiday).

I hope this isn't going to be another Trump shit show, but I'm starting to get a bad feeling about it. They have no good history of understanding logistics planning.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
29. New York has only been allocated 170K. I think this is the initial shipment which is 6M or so.
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 09:51 PM
Dec 2020

dlk

(11,578 posts)
30. Is there anything critical Republicans can't royally screw up?
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 10:12 PM
Dec 2020

Next, they will try to blame the Democrats.

RobinA

(9,896 posts)
32. It's Pretty Useless
Sun Dec 6, 2020, 11:45 PM
Dec 2020

to speculate about any of this at this point. This a massive undertaking with almost an infinite numbers of things that could go wrong. Plus an administration that is organically incapable of even understanding the concept of logistics. A year from now this will still be the big news, although some people will probably get vaccinated before then.

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