Ocasio-Cortez: Biden agenda 'a little hazy'

[brooklynite]

Source: The Hill

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Wednesday said that she thinks President-elect Biden’s White House agenda is “a little hazy” based on his Cabinet selections.

The New York progressive told reporters at the Capitol that Biden’s incoming Cabinet needs “a more cohesive vision.”

“You have an individual appointment here, an individual appointment there,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “We can wrestle about whether they are bold enough or ambitious enough, especially given the uncertainty and what kind of Senate we’re going to have.”

“But aside from that, I think one of the things I’m looking for, when I see all of these picks put together is: What is the agenda? What is this overall vision going to be? And to me, I think that’s a little hazy,” she added.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/529594-ocasio-cortez-biden-agenda-a-little-hazy

[MANative]

1. Oh, FFS, AOC.

[Crash2Parties]

103. She's looking for a strong leader, with a strong message

That's not who he is, though. He's an emergency brake for the runaway train we are on.

His Cabinet appointments reflect this. His job is to re-assemble the federal government & the fastest way to do that is by bringing back people who knew it's most recent shape when it was still functional.

OAC wants to move forward but we've not even brought the train to a stop yet.

We still need her, and those like her and the pressure they bring to bear on the Biden Administration.

In a way, she's doing her job just as he's doing his.

[Callado119]

108. Bernie lost twice..

..and she’s extremely polarizing and unpopular and underperformed Biden in her district. She has no idea what a strong leader or message is. A strong leader is not whoever is most loyal to Bernie. We saw how that kind of thinking worked out with trump..

[Maxheader]

115. Good analysis...

[Cha]

140. No it isn't it's Wrong.

[Maxheader]

153. A perfect assessment of Joes platform..

And people that will support it.

[Cha]

154. Biden is a Strong Leader.

[Hekate]

117. That's an excellent way to put Biden's situation. We are still very close to losing the republic. nt

[Hekate]

158. You dropped in just to say that to me, Lester J? I'm totally touched by your regard. Enjoy your stay

[cilla4progress]

123. Thank you.

I appreciate your post, and I agree with your observation.

I do look forward to seeing more young people and progressives in his admin.

[Cha]

139. Bull.. Biden is a Strong Leader!

[TNNurse]

129. Generally I agree with her,

but this is not the time for this.

[apnu]

2. With the Republican party working so hard to oppose Biden's election, "a little hazy" is OK.

What Trump and Co are doing is an unprecedented attack on democracy itself. It is amazing Biden has done what he's done with one hand behind his back and the mittens McConnell is making him wear.

[C_U_L8R]

3. It's often called being pecked to death by ducks.

Sniping and being a critic is easy. It takes more character to actually help.

[redstatebluegirl]

54. I hope I am long gone by the time she grows up and becomes President.

[efhmc]

75. Who grows up? Do you have any idea what this does to my curiosity?

Initials. Anything?

[redstatebluegirl]

83. AOC is who we have been discussing.

[efhmc]

161. I get it now and thanks for answering but it was the kid part that threw me.

Was thinking DJT's gkids since Ivanka has no chance and was wigging out.

[Crash2Parties]

104. You assume she won't have mellowed out a bit

[Zoonart]

4. The incoming Biden Administration is staring into the abyss...

and the abyss is staring back.

My advice... stop spitballing and pick up a shovel.

[Thekaspervote]

39. +1000

[iluvtennis]

70. +1001. nt

[Paladin]

96. +1002. AOC's non-stop griping is getting really tedious. (nt)

[The Mouth]

111. Ideological purity, left or right is both tedious and dangerous

Politics is the art of the possible, doing the greatest good for the greatest number, and avoiding people who put ideology above consensus.

[Cha]

141. No kidding!

[Auggie]

5. Hazy? It's been only 5 weeks. This is damaging talk. Stop it.

[Escurumbele]

23. No, it is not damaging talk. She is a progressive and we know Biden and Harris are not, so there

is nothing wrong for her, and for us, to demand more progressive policies, otherwise we will have more of the same. If I am not mistaken, that was one of the issues many people who opposed Biden in the primaries had, the fact that he is not progressive and he would bring more of the same, which will get us nowhere.

I understand that there is a lot of rebuilding to do, I am not blind about that, but he also needs to bring in a progressive agenda, he cannot forget that progressives went out there campaigning for him and their vote counted. Bernie and AOC were hard at work to help get the votes for Biden/Harris, and if he wants to get reelected in 2024 he better push some progressive ideas in the mix, it CAN be done.

If we look at the History of the USA, the best times the country has had was with progressive governments, Theodore Roosevelt, FDR, even Bill Clinton. We need to, as a country, to move into more progressive ideas if we want to survive, people get discouraged and angry when things do not change for the better, and to stay with what we have had for 50 years, or more, will not advance the country.

Not sure why AOC gets so much criticism in DU, I believe she is great, and no one puts republicans in the trash more than she does. Like President Obama said, she needs a bigger platform, I believe President Obama understands the value she brings to the Democratic party, and to the nation.

[Thekaspervote]

42. Repukes pick her comments apart, use what they like and dump the rest

We need a united front, what we don’t need is someone who’s been around 3 years telling a seasoned team like Biden and Harris what to do!

[Auggie]

58. Perfectly put. I might have added ...

"bullshit."

Thanks for your response.

[efhmc]

74. I so agree.

[George II]

91. Actually less than two years.

[Cha]

144. Well said.. TY!

[llashram]

48. her 'platform, at this time, in history

is large enough. If the President-elect wishes to meet with BS and the 'squad' AFTER Jan 20, then so be it. Until then...

[George II]

110. It should be the other way around, they should seek out his audience.

[llashram]

113. okay

error! error! on my part...I think though the JD's, a minor faction in our 'big tent', should be marginalized at this dangerous time in our history and talked with AFTER our country is stabilized by the President-elect. If ever stabilized. The JD's-BS's wishes are NOT any type of priority at this time.

[George II]

121. Yes, the JD "faction" is minor, very minor. We have 222 seats (so far) and they represent 6....

...(which is less than 3% of our caucus and 1.3% of the House. Yet they're going around like they're a major voice in the Democratic Party - bashing other members, bashing Biden's cabinet choices, bashing Speaker Pelosi, etc.

All this does is distract us from what we need to do once Biden takes office. There's a LOT of work to overcome all the damage trump has wreaked on the country. That should be our #1, #2, #3, and #4 priorities!

As my favorite folk song/hymn of the Civil Rights movement goes - "Keep your eyes on the prize!"

[PatSeg]

53. A more progressive cabinet would

not get confirmed by this senate. Also, a lot of these positions are not political and require a high degree of competence and experience. A good leader will not politicize the various agencies of government like Trump has.

I can sit over here in the cheap seats and wish Biden had picked someone else for a particular position, but I also realize that he knows things that I don't and as President, he has the right to pick the cabinet that he feels works best for him. At least with Biden, no one is buying their way into the administration as with Trump or GW Bush.

You know, I remember disagreeing a lot with Obama in the beginning, but I know republicans in congress fought him every step of the way. He would have been a more progressive president if he could have been, but he knew his limitations and was still able to work within those limitations to accomplish some of his goals.

[pattyloutwo]

64. Well said!

People love jumping on her; I think it’s sexism. “ A little hazy” is not deserving of the level of reaction and probably would’ve gone unnoticed coming from a male rep.

[cab67]

120. For me, it's not a matter of gender.

I admire AOC, but sometimes disagree with her approach.

But I've leveled the very same disagreements against Bernie Sanders for the very same approach issues.

[mcar]

134. She gets the reaction because she seeks out the attention

Period

[George II]

65. Biden and Harris are not progressive??? Kamala Harris has been rated THE MOST PROGRESSIVE....

....SENATOR of the current bunch of 100!!

In 2019, she was ranked the most liberal U.S. senator. That’s according to the nonpartisan, independent congressional tracker GovTrack.us.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/13/is-kamala-harris-really-most-liberal-senator-trump-claims/

As for the "best times", many Americans would agree that the best times since the turn of the 20th Century was the 1950s.

[Callado119]

109. Harris is a progressive, it's a smear to say otherwise..

I’d argue she’s more progressive than someone who celebrated joe rogan’s endorsement... Just because you don’t spend most of your time attacking other democrats doesn’t mean you’re not progressive..

[LymphocyteLover]

118. Harris is progressive and Biden is progressive-friendly, so GMAFB

We are staring at multiple emergencies of epic proportions. Biden is just trying to stabilize things not start a revolution.

[NoMoreRepugs]

124. Isn't this asking to know the end of the movie right after the theatre goes dark???

[cilla4progress]

125. I agree.

Sometimes I find this site is more conservative than I would expect!

Whether or not we are permitted to criticize them here....I would hope that criticism - constructively - of the new admin is not only allowed, but welcomed - in the public square.

[Cha]

145. NO.. we're NOT "conservative" as you say..

Because a lot of us know Biden is a strong Leader & he & Kamala are Progressive.

"Criticize" all they damn want But we Can Push Back if We Don't Agree.

[cilla4progress]

147. First off, I didn't say it was conservative here,

only MORE conservative that I would sometimes think! It's my humble opinion. Whether it was Bernie or AOC... many opinions and perspectives here. All valid in their own ri ght.

And of courses people can push back; just as both AOC's and others' criticism needs to be heard in the public square, if not here.

I hope we aren't going to be fearful of saying anything - legitimate - that is a criticism of the Biden admin policies, out of fear or otherwise.

For example: it totally burns me when people criticize Biden for gaffes. I think it's bullshit and immature. OTOH, I don't necessarily agree with some of his picks. Maybe I shouldn't say so here? If not, I can take them elsewhere?

S'all I'm saying.

[Cha]

149. We're Not the Slightest "conservative"..

We Are Progressive. . & Practical..

Just because we don't agree with "defund the police" & using the term "socialism" doesn't make us any less Progressive In fact it makes us more so because it's not a winning message.

Joe Won Overwhelmingly & then he choose Kamala who was known for being the most "progressive Senator" based on their Votes. Sanders is down there at #9.

Kamala Harris ranked as Most Progressive Senator...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211646105

Why should anyone be "fearful" to say anything? It's said & people either agree or they don't.

All I'm saying is.. disagree all you want with Joe Biden's & Kamala Harris' picks.

But Joe & Kamala are the ones who got 81 Million Votes & 306 EVs.. No matter how much the Maggots want to Throw the Votes OUT.

[cilla4progress]

150. Of course, I agree, cha

Maybe it's too soon.

I didn't mean to cause or add to stress.

I've thought a lot about this...whether or not I am ok with criticism of a Biden admin going forward. Much as I felt with Obama.

I actually think it does more for their cause for us to be transparent about critiquing them, than to hold off.

But this is my view, my opinion. I understand it is not necessarily shared or maybe even welcomed. Especially here. And I would not want anything to undermine Biden. I honestly believe strongly he is the person for the moment, even though he was not my 1st choice. Kamala was. I think his presidency has the potential to be more consequential than Obama's.

He is going to get criticism. We can participate in elevating it to substance, and still be gracious, intelligent, and productive about it.

[Cha]

151. I know.. & for me it depends

on whether the "criticism" is valid or not. I'm just so shell shocked right now after 4 years of this never ending fascist bullshit.. Just trying to appreciate that We WON which was no small feat!

[mcar]

133. Hmm

he cannot forget that progressives went out there campaigning for him and their vote counted.

What about all the other Democratic blocs - who were out there campaigning a heck of a lot more, IMO? Should he forget them?

no one puts republicans in the trash more than she does.

Really? She seems to spend most of her time trashing Democrats.

[Cha]

142. Biden & Harris WON & have a Mandate

for their Agenda Which is PROGRESSIVE.

[ismnotwasm]

160. More of the same ... what exactly?

What part of Biden and Harris isn’t “progressive” ? I’d like details please

[George II]

63. Not even five weeks, more like MINUS six weeks, he hasn't even taken office yet. I would suggest...

....that she talk to her colleagues or maybe even give Biden a call to see what his "agenda" is. But before she does that, READ THE FUCKING PLATFORM OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!!!!!!!

[Hekate]

112. Spot on. I wonder where AOC & these folks were when the Dem Platform was published...

...and if any of them have read a word of it.

How badly is DU being trolled these days?

[onetexan]

116. Can't agree more. I like AOC but sometimes she just needs to keep her trap shut.

[madaboutharry]

6. Hubris doesn't look good on anyone.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez needs to take a step back and chill out a bit. I really don’t understand why she thinks she knows everything.

[samnsara]

7. oh ffs..get with the program..NOT against it.

..her message nor her method has never resonated with me...

[pazzyanne]

11. Nor with me!

She is bright, but has one problem: speaking without hands on experience. With experience I have no doubt she will be a leading star. She needs to learn from those she works with and refine and time her messages to decrease the repubs using her words against Democrats, IMHO.

[Demsrule86]

28. She also has a very blue district and has no idea about running in moderate or red areas.

Could she win a statewide Senate race even in New York? I don't know. That being said she is smart and talented and could use her gifts to put out the progressive message and try to spread it.

[caber09]

85. My home district is two over from AOC's in Queens...

She would not win in my very very blue district, in fact she would most likely get blown out in the primary, she is not popular there....let alone a statewide position.

[George II]

93. I grew up in several Districts in Brooklyn and Queens, primarily my last 10-12 years...

...in NYC just east of the 14th District, now held by Grace Meng.

My friends and relatives who still live in that area have the same opinion as those in your District.

[caber09]

99. Correct...she wouldnt win right outside her district let alone statewide...

And we are talking very blue districts in Queens/Bklyn......And that's before we even get to the blue Nassau/Suffolk districts...no chance in Hell shed win in those districts either....then you add in Westchester/Rockland and move upstate, less and less of a shot...so yeah no on the AOC Senate run.

[George II]

101. IF she were to challenge Schumer in two years, about 95% of her support will be in NYC....

...and possibly Westchester and Rockland.

Once one goes north and west of Rockland she would barely get any votes.

Although not my favorite Democratic Senator over the years, Schumer is very popular across the entire state. In 2016 he won re-election with more than 70% of the vote, almost 3 times that of his republican opponent.

[caber09]

105. Correct plus Schumer is popular in NYC, from Brooklyn, all AOC would do is give Rs ammo

[redstatebluegirl]

131. I think she is arrogant enough to think she could win statewide.

I don't see it myself.

[Demsrule86]

143. That is what I heard. hubs was born in the Bronx. We have friends in the area.

[Rebl2]

44. Me either!!!

It just shows how uninformed she is about some things. Biden is way ahead of trump in his appointments. trump was very slow in picking his cabinet. Biden has been blocked for weeks from getting important information.

[PatSeg]

55. Yes

Biden's many years in the senate, plus eight years in the White House definitely give him an edge. I'm sure he knew going in who a lot of his picks were going to be or at least had them narrowed down to a few. Experience can go a long way when putting together a new administration. Meanwhile, Trump had no idea what he was doing and refused to listen to anyone who did know.

A president elect with less experience probably wouldn't be able to handle all the roadblocks Biden has had to confront with the current administration.

[Rebl2]

67. Exactly right!

[pawismom]

8. I don't think it's hazy at all.

I think he is putting experienced (yeah, something you don't have) and capable people in charge of simply restoring a functioning government. Let's tackle first things first shall we. If we cannot do that and contain this virus your priorities, whatever they may be today, are meaningless and non doable.

[bucolic_frolic]

9. My thoughts go to

New York, unfiltered, or controlling, conniving .... but really just learn some self-awareness and think of political implications before you speak.

All politics is local, and her district isn't local to all 437 other districts. Maybe she should think on that over the holidays.

[Rebl2]

50. I know I

will get angry feedback, but she at times comes across as a know it all. That’s fine being very smart and being knowledgeable, but the way you come across goes a long way. I have always been turned off by people who think they know it all (like trump) and it’s because of the way they present that knowledge.

[happy feet]

164. Yes

She hasn't learned the difference btw being right and being effective. Life as politics is about the art of the possible as opposed to the perfect. Obama understood that.

[Peacetrain]

10. Clean your glasses AOC.. maybe that will help

[George II]

102. Bazinga!

[AZ8theist]

12. Look, I love AOC..her passion, her ideas...BUT

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK???

Get with the program, please. Pelosi is set to have the narrowest margin in history.
Since the incumbent WH typically LOSES seats in the midterms, you are destined to become the MINORITY.
Where you will never be heard from again as the Nazis in the REPUKE party, otherwise known as the House Fascist Caucus,
schedule nothing but investigation after investigation after investigation after investigation of the Biden Administration imagined "crimes".

Try being a fucking team player for a little while.

[AirmensMom]

18. You beat me to it.

And said it better than I would have. I love her passion but this is a time when she needs to STFU.

[Gothmog]

13. I trust Joe Biden

[NurseJackie]

14. Haaaaa!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

15. A little hazy is ok. Trump's picks had a cohesive vision.

Trump's vision was chaos and anarchy. Or, his vision as provided by Bannon, Miller, Kushner, etc.

When AOC is president-elect, she can do her own cohesive vision thing.

[NCjack]

16. I am encouraged that Joe is reading about FDR's first 100 days.

[Demsrule86]

25. FDR faced a terrible situation but ours is worse and the obstruction will be worse.

[Escurumbele]

30. I didn't know that, but that is good news, FDR was progressive.

The fact that Biden/Harris have a lot to fix should not be a reason for not working on progressive agendas in parallel, the country needs to see some positive change, otherwise the repubs will win in 2024.

Yes, fixing the pandemic is paramount, and it is something that people will recognize as a very positive accomplishment, but I believe that other policies, progressive policies, must also be worked on and implemented.

[Hekate]

122. Are you aware that Joe is largely responsible for getting Obamacare passed?

Are you aware that California Attorney General Xavier Becerra, one of his Cabinet picks, was the man who defended the ACA in court against Trump’s legal challenges?

Are you aware that even before she got to the Senate, Kamala Harris was being slammed as the most liberal/progressive possible Senator? Our enemies certainly know she’s liberal.

“A lot to fix”? The federal infrastructure is rubble, thanks to Trump. Fighting over fine distinctions about who’s the most progressive of all are not going to get the job done at all.

[mcar]

135. Waiting for the response to this one

All these demands about "progressive" agendas. I sometimes wonder what that even means, especially when those doing the demanding apparently pay no attention to the PE and VPEs extremely liberal platform.

[Blue Owl]

17. Like a fine Hazy IPA

[beachbumbob]

19. I and Biden really care little about what AOC thinks

[Escurumbele]

31. Biden cares, and so does President Obama who suggested a bigger platform for AOC

You may not care, but Biden and Harris do, they understand the pull she has, how smart she is, and what an asset she has proven to be. She has all republicans coward up in a corner, every time one of them has dared to say anything about her they have been humiliated, but aside from that, she is smart, and I feel she will be a contender of the president in the future, you may end up voting for her one day.

And as I said, she has the backing and support of President Barack Obama, which I assume you do care about what he says?

[My Pet Orangutan]

20. The posters relentless quest to put up any stray remark by AOC as news,

providing it can be construed as critical of Joe Biden, does him no favors. I am sick to death of AOC/Sanders vs. Biden - most of it posted by two or three DU'ers for so good reason. It is divisive shit-stirring. Sanders lost the primaries. AOC says a lot of stuff. Enough Democrats in disarray as 'news' - it is low-rent masturbation.

[NurseJackie]

22. 💥⚠ Boom!

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

27. TY. It is beyond critical that we remain permanently and steadfastly united

in the face of the ongoing threat of RW extremist attempts at overthrowing our democracy and our government.

Every beating heart is necessary and welcome.

[My Pet Orangutan]

33. I'm willing, more than willing, to have a passionate debate on policy,

when the time comes - i.e. when we have a Biden Administration. But this 'you'll never guess what so&so said yesterday' is cynical and pointless divisive: a transparent attempt to drag us back into the same 200 post shitshows we've had far too many times.

As you said, we have an ongoing attempt to overthrow democracy in the United States, replete with armed thugs turning up outside the homes of elected officials. A little more consequential than what AOC meant by the word 'hazy' don't you think. It's not news, not in the current context, and I don't care how many times "The 'Democrats in Disarray' Hill" reports it.

Democrats could not be more united in defending the Constitution and American democracy against Trump's stooges. What AOC meant by the word 'hazy' is neither here nor there, and it's not f'ing news.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

40. Couldn't agree more. nt

[oldsoftie]

34. Well, if she didnt do it so often it wouldnt BE news.

[My Pet Orangutan]

36. What AOC meant or did not mean by the word 'hazy' is not f'ing news

whichever way you slice it. The Hill is always looking for anything that can be construed as criticism of the leadership to suit their 'Democrats in Dissary' narrative. AOC could tale for hours and that publication would be looking for one sentence to fit their agenda.

[Voltaire2]

72. source is right wing crapfest 'the hill'.

[FBaggins]

106. No it isn't. The source is AOC

This was her own statement to the press (and was covered by several media outlets including Politico).

Moreover... it isn't as though there's much commentary built into the piece. It isn't presented as "Dems in disarray" - Most of the piece is direct quotes from AOC without significant commentary.

[thucythucy]

21. can we just focus for now on preventing the red states from staging a coup,

and save the kvetching at least until after the inauguration?

[Demsrule86]

24. Does she understand that Biden's agenda is shaped by what is possible with a very narrow house

majority and either a close Senate majority or no Senate majority...it becomes a matter of what is possible.

[quickesst]

26. AOC...

.....is driven by ego. She has a position that was practically handed to her on a silver platter, and now believes it has given her more of a voice than she has earned or deserves. Yes, it's that simple.

[LiberalFighter]

29. Maybe AOC is a little hazy.

She is not helping her cause.

[DENVERPOPS]

32. Wow......Really AOC????????

Biden, and the United States are in, what I and he rest of the world, consider to be by far the largest nightmare this nation has ever faced, bar none.

I am sorry that Biden has not had the time to give you the time you think you deserve, much less discuss every last detail, and consult with you personally on every decision he needs to make right now........and make in a big hurry.

I feel you are young and idealistic, and that is okay, but you don't need to shoot your mouth off right now unless it is to help, not criticize. Biden has decade after decade after decade of experience in the Federal Government that you do not, besides personally knowing what the overall job of President is all about, and all that it encompasses.

It was as if YOU felt that you needed to comment for some reason? to say something that sounded intelligent, but failed miserably....
"I think that's a little hazy"...........WTF.

You are picking apart his choices already?????????? Are you going to criticize daily every little piss ant thing he does??????????/
On a scale of one to a million, what YOU think at this point is definitely a ONE. Right now, he and the staff he chooses are facing the Pandemic being out of Control, Half the United States that has guzzled the Kool Aid, The Republican controlled Senate, a certifiable president for another month acting out daily, RepubliCON cabinet appointees, dept heads, and advisors that are in lock step with Trump who is hell bent, at the request of our biggest enemy, trying to destroy our nation and Democracy.

AND YOU THINK YOU NEED TO GO PUBLIC WITH YOUR COMMENT "A LITTLE HAZY".......??????????????????????????

My opinion of you just dropped a notch AOC........Jump in and help, we are facing an enemy within that has created this nightmare for years and year to come.........if not decades and decades..........

Enough said, AOC

[redstatebluegirl]

56. She represents a totally blue district, no danger for her.

She also shows she has no idea what it is like in the rest of the country you need for a national election. I am growing weary of her at this point. Yes, I would love it if the country were more progressive, but if AOC and others like her run off moderate democrats and those moderates join with moderate republicans who have left the GOP, the Democratic party that I love will not win another national election.

[NurseJackie]

59. Will that district still exist the next time things are redrawn?

That will be interesting to see how it develops.

[R B Garr]

100. Ooh, that will be very interesting!

Thanks for that info, NJ.

[PatSeg]

61. You summed that up beautifully

Meanwhile, all that energy should be directed at republicans, not the Democratic President Elect, who received over 81 million votes nationwide.

I don't expect her or anyone to agree with everything Biden does, but it would be more constructive to get onboard and give a helping hand instead of the endless criticism. It is ever so easy to sit on the sidelines and criticize what others are doing.

[George II]

69. Don't forget, she organized a sit-in outside Nany Pelosi's office weeks before she even was sworn in

[NurseJackie]

76. I thought that was disrespectful and inappropriate.

If she had wanted a meeting with Nancy to discuss things in a proper and dignified way, then all she had to do was to ask... and schedule an appointment. I'm sure Nancy would have obliged her.

[George II]

87. Don't forget, she was mentored by Bernie Sanders. He "negotiates" and communicates...

...either via Twitter or podcast.

[Kahuna]

165. High five!

[Yavin4]

35. AOC is doing exactly what her constituents elected her twice to do.

Push the Biden adminstration to be more progressive.

[CatMor]

45. Joe Biden was elected by constituents of the entire country ..

not just her small part of the picture. The idea is to work with him.

[NurseJackie]

77. Lulz!

[mcar]

136. Her constituents elected her (by a narrower margin than they elected Biden/Harris, BTW)

to represent them in congress.

[Yavin4]

138. Still, they elected her twice.

We need our progressives. There are not enough moderates to give us power.

[mcar]

146. No one said otherwise

I was pointing out that she was elected to serve her constituents, not to tell the PE what to do.

[marble falls]

37. I trust Joe Biden and I also understand AOC's youthful exuberance and faunching at ...

... the bit to get moving. We need his calm deliberateness and her energy and vision, both.

[NurseJackie]

78. No, that's not it.

youthful exuberance

No, that's not it. It's something else.

[Nitram]

38. Give the dude a chance!

[llashram]

43. Can't the "squad" leader

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give the President-elect a break until our forces can begin mopping up after this bloody mess going on now? This piling on along with the Repthuglicans is not going to change what my President-elect HAS TO DO to turn back the forces of fascism that 'advice' like this from her commander bernie sanders just encourages.

Actually, the 'petition' pronouncement and this is showing me where the JD's loyalties lay. At the feet of bernie sanders.

[flor-de-jasmim]

46. Let's get new Dem senators voted in FIRST - then we can discuss policy.

[stillcool]

47. got to be that ego thing, again

me, me, me, me. She's so smart, but the insidious desire to ruffle feathers is such a loser-play.

[Rebl2]

68. Absolutely agree

[R B Garr]

94. Totally correct

Edit: hence it’s about building a “brand” even though that brand has been rejected nationally for years now.

[dalton99a]

49. Always let the perfect be the enemy of the good

[KG]

51. I lulz'd

again.

[jb5150]

52. I admire her passion ....

but she needs to keep the big picture in mind ... and learn the meaning of patience.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

60. With time the impatience of youth will be tempered and give way to wisdom.

At least, I hope so.
AOC has shown much promise but perhaps she's missing the point that putting together a cabinet that can address the destruction and make the repairs the tRump administration has inflicted will be the foundation upon which more progressive policies can be built. The foundation must be stable enough to hold as a new and improved structure is built upon it or we could end up going through this again in the not too distant future.

[NurseJackie]

79. There are question regarding whether or not her district will continue to exist after...

... the lines have been redrawn.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

88. I wasn't aware of that.

Surely she would have the option to run again successfully even if that happens?

[Hekate]

126. When districts are redrawn is a moment of danger for incumbents. She will have to appeal to...

...people who may or may not like her “agenda.” She is certainly free to run, though.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

155. That makes sense. I don't think I'd really thought about it before.

I hope she does run. I think she's brilliant with a promising career and she's a good counter balance to the older more conservative members of Congress that young voters may not relate to.

[RobinA]

90. I Don't See This Being

a change administration, it will be a stabilization administration. The ship has to be righted before you can turn it.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

98. Yes. I agree.

Given how far back the current administration and R's in Congress have pulled the country, standing on the middle ground is perceived by them as an over the top socialist takeover.

[DENVERPOPS]

167. Amen to that Robin

Your ship analogy is quite excellent.............

Indeed Robin, what we have here, is a ship that has everything above the deck destroyed, the hull is full of holes, the engine is disabled, and the Rudder is completely gone.

And a person in the repair crew is all wrapped up in making a big deal out of what color the ship should be painted......

Just a thought...........Sorry, I couldn't resist presenting my own analogy which is a little more dramatic and realistic......

Has anyone noticed that the Success of Trump and the entire RepubliCON party has been them getting 100% behind the party, regardless of how horrific the party's or Trump's actions have been?

I don't think we really want to "heave to" all the diversionary tactics that the Repubs are pushing us towards.....

To be completely honest, If Dems don't get their F***ing shit together with strong leadership and an organized/coordinated effort from all facets, I believe we are doomed......

Hell, what am I talking about???? We are still in Danger of Trump corruptly staying in the White House and the RepubliCON Senate staying in the majority......

[George II]

62. She hasn't been watching/listening to his almost daily addresses then. He's been VERY clear....

....with respect to his agenda. VERY CLEAR. His VISION has been very clear. And his appointments so far have been SPOT ON and will be the most experienced and diverse administration ever!

Does she know more about government and governing in her less than two years in office than Biden and those highly experienced and talented people that he's surrounded himself with?

Maybe she doesn't like what she's seeing or hearing?

Speaking of "bold and ambitious", where her list of proposed legislation for the new term? Anything?

[NurseJackie]

80. Not that I know of, but if anything is out there, I'm sure it won't take long for...

Anything?

Not that I know of, but if anything is out there, I'm sure it won't take long for... someone to see your comment and provide you with an extensive list.

[George II]

86. Below is the entire list of freshmen Representatives that have gotten bills passed in 2019...

...2020 hasn't been compiled yet, but it won't change for many. No doubt we'll be seeing a list of bills "co-sponsored", which takes all of seconds by sending an email or signing a document.

Rank/Number/Name
#1 4 Rep. Elaine Luria [D-VA2]
#2 3 Rep. Joe Neguse [D-CO2]
#3 2 Rep. Anthony Brindisi [D-NY22]
#3 2 Rep. Antonio Delgado [D-NY19]
#3 2 Rep. Harley Rouda [D-CA48]
#3 2 Rep. Mikie Sherrill [D-NJ11]
#3 2 Rep. Lori Trahan [D-MA3]
#8 1 Rep. Ben Cline [R-VA6]
#8 1 Rep. Joe Cunningham [D-SC1]
#8 1 Rep. Abby Finkenauer [D-IA1]
#8 1 Rep. Jared Golden [D-ME2]
#8 1 Rep. Michael Guest [R-MS3]
#8 1 Rep. Dusty Johnson [R-SD0]
#8 1 Rep. Susie Lee [D-NV3]
#8 1 Rep. Lucy McBath [D-GA6]
#8 1 Rep. Joseph Morelle [D-NY25]
#8 1 Rep. Chris Pappas [D-NH1]
#8 1 Rep. Guy Reschenthaler [R-PA14]
#8 1 Rep. Max Rose [D-NY11]
#8 1 Rep. Greg Stanton [D-AZ9]
#8 1 Rep. Haley Stevens [D-MI11]
#8 1 Rep. Xochitl Torres Small [D-NM2]
#8 1 Rep. Michael Waltz [R-FL6]

These are all tied at #24 with 0

#24 0 Rep. Colin Allred [D-TX32]
#24 0 Rep. Kelly Armstrong [R-ND0]
#24 0 Rep. Cynthia Axne [D-IA3]
#24 0 Rep. James Baird [R-IN4]
#24 0 Rep. Dan Bishop [R-NC9]
#24 0 Rep. Tim Burchett [R-TN2]
#24 0 Rep. Sean Casten [D-IL6]
#24 0 Rep. Gilbert Cisneros [D-CA39]
#24 0 Rep. TJ Cox [D-CA21]
#24 0 Rep. Angie Craig [D-MN2]
#24 0 Rep. Dan Crenshaw [R-TX2]
#24 0 Rep. Jason Crow [D-CO6]
#24 0 Rep. Sharice Davids [D-KS3]
#24 0 Rep. Madeleine Dean [D-PA4]
#24 0 Rep. Veronica Escobar [D-TX16]
#24 0 Rep. Lizzie Fletcher [D-TX7]
#24 0 Rep. Russ Fulcher [R-ID1]
#24 0 Rep. Sylvia Garcia [D-TX29]
#24 0 Rep. Jesús García [D-IL4]
#24 0 Rep. Anthony Gonzalez [R-OH16]
#24 0 Rep. Lance Gooden [R-TX5]
#24 0 Rep. Mark Green [R-TN7]
#24 0 Rep. Debra Haaland [D-NM1]
#24 0 Rep. Jim Hagedorn [R-MN1]
#24 0 Rep. Josh Harder [D-CA10]
#24 0 Rep. Jahana Hayes [D-CT5]
#24 0 Rep. Kevin Hern [R-OK1]
#24 0 Rep. Kendra Horn [D-OK5]
#24 0 Rep. Chrissy Houlahan [D-PA6]
#24 0 Rep. John Joyce [R-PA13]
#24 0 Rep. Fred Keller [R-PA12]
#24 0 Rep. Andy Kim [D-NJ3]
#24 0 Rep. Andy Levin [D-MI9]
#24 0 Rep. Mike Levin [D-CA49]
#24 0 Rep. Tom Malinowski [D-NJ7]
#24 0 Rep. Ben McAdams [D-UT4]
#24 0 Rep. Daniel Meuser [R-PA9]
#24 0 Rep. Carol Miller [R-WV3]
#24 0 Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell [D-FL26]
#24 0 Rep. Gregory Murphy [R-NC3]
#24 0 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez [D-NY14]
#24 0 Rep. Ilhan Omar [D-MN5]
#24 0 Rep. Greg Pence [R-IN6]
#24 0 Rep. Dean Phillips [D-MN3]
#24 0 Rep. Katie Porter [D-CA45]
#24 0 Rep. Ayanna Pressley [D-MA7]
#24 0 Rep. Denver Riggleman [R-VA5]
#24 0 Rep. John Rose [R-TN6]
#24 0 Rep. Chip Roy [R-TX21]
#24 0 Rep. Michael San Nicolas [D-GU0]
#24 0 Rep. Mary Scanlon [D-PA5]
#24 0 Rep. Kim Schrier [D-WA8]
#24 0 Rep. Donna Shalala [D-FL27]
#24 0 Rep. Elissa Slotkin [D-MI8]
#24 0 Rep. Abigail Spanberger [D-VA7]
#24 0 Rep. Ross Spano [R-FL15]
#24 0 Rep. Pete Stauber [R-MN8]
#24 0 Rep. Bryan Steil [R-WI1]
#24 0 Rep. Gregory Steube [R-FL17]
#24 0 Rep. Van Taylor [R-TX3]
#24 0 Rep. William Timmons [R-SC4]
#24 0 Rep. Rashida Tlaib [D-MI13]
#24 0 Rep. David Trone [D-MD6]
#24 0 Rep. Lauren Underwood [D-IL14]
#24 0 Rep. Jefferson Van Drew [R-NJ2]
#24 0 Rep. Steven Watkins [R-KS2]
#24 0 Rep. Jennifer Wexton [D-VA10]
#24 0 Rep. Susan Wild [D-PA7]
#24 0 Rep. Ron Wright [R-TX6]

[NurseJackie]

97. Elaine Luria [D-VA2] is busy working. I guess if she Tweeted more...

Elaine Luria [D-VA2] is busy working. I'm impressed! Honestly, I hadn't heard much about her. I guess if she Tweeted more... I'd probably have heard about her. But then if she was seeking Twitter fame and recognition, then she probably wouldn't have had time to be doing actual work and building coalitions.

One thing is for sure: Elaine Luria definitely isn't trying to be like Trump (ie: the way he compensates for having accomplished little during his administration by constantly tweeting in order for him to stay "relevant" in the eyes of his fans and voters.) Trump is a phony and a fraud and everyone knows it! It looks like Elaine Luria is the real-deal!

[Hekate]

130. That is certainly an informative list

[NurseJackie]

137. Nothing hazy about it at all. It's crystal clear.

[Naio]

66. AOC.....I admire you very much, and iam very proud of you and all that you have achieved, but please

AOC..I admire you very much, and iam very proud of you and all that you have achieved, but please, as a Puerto Rican like you, please stop criticizing our president-elect..Thank you.

[Voltaire2]

71. oh look the hill is shit stirring again.

[NurseJackie]

81. Huh? How so? How is this the fault of The Hill?

[Voltaire2]

82. lulzd.

[NurseJackie]

89. I know, right? The Hill just invented that quote out of thin air.

Those rascals!

[karynnj]

73. Very premature and she is ignoring how what is being done compares to the past

Biden's rollout of sets of nominees has been very well crafted and - on each - Biden himself has set the high level goal, then has praised each of the people chosen to some degree explaining why he wants them for that position. Then, he has had each explain their own story and many explained what motivates them. I have been very impressed with each team announced.

They are not yet in office and, for the national security team, they had not yet received the standard briefings. For them, another constraint is that they followed Biden's lead in respecting the fact that Trump is still President. The exceptions were things like rejoining the Paris climate accord that EVERY Democrat running had already committed to and important but vague comments on rebuilding our close alliances, including France, UK, Germany and NATO.

AOC speaks of it being individual appointments -- but that is what is done at this stage. It also ignores that Biden's and Harris' victory speeches did provide some cohesive vision - even if it was not the AOC vision. In addition, Biden will have an inaugural address. That speech is often used to explain the vision of an incoming President. I would love it if some reporter rather than going for the AOC controversial comment actually asked her SPECIFICALLY if she agreed with each of a set of goals that Biden has laid out. As it is, most articles devolve into something like AOC does not like or is concerned about X,YZ. I suspect that in her responses to specific goals, you would see what she and Biden agree on.

For most issues, it would be better if it were framed that Biden and AOC want things to change in the same direction and the difference is how they are recommending to get there and how far to go. Given that any movement is difficult, I think it better that ALL of us focus on the direction we need to go. Not to mention - the most important actions early in Biden's Presidency will be controlling the Covid epidemic, restoring the economy (which from Biden comments includes making it fairer), rejoining the world's climate change effort and doing all his administration can do to jumpstart the effort internationally (and domestically), and restoring our traditional alliances. Note that any one of these alone would be a huge challenge, but they ALL need to be done together.

At this point, AOC could help more by emphasizing how much better off we will be with a President Biden, who can reverse the Trump executive orders on everything from environmental to immigration issues. Many of the worst actions of Trump were done through executive actions. The key to doing more - on anything - will be winning the Georgia seats. Anything she says should be said with awareness that she might impact that - either to be used as RW propaganda or to demoralize the people who follow her.

[Chemisse]

84. Not featured in the news lately? Time to criticize Biden again.

If she really had concerns about the agenda, she would schedule a meeting with Biden's team. It seems she's rather see her name in the headlines than have things go smoothly for the Dems.

[BainsBane]

92. Exactly

and it's transparent.

Besides, she can decide what a cabinet should be if she ever gets elected. As is, she has absolutely zero experience or knowledge in this area.

[R B Garr]

95. Bingo!

We have bingo here.

Thank you,

[George II]

107. Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

[Cha]

152. Mahalo!

[Happy Hoosier]

114. Well, of course with her bast list of accomplishments...

... oh wait....

Honestly, we are our own worst enemies sometimes.

[LymphocyteLover]

119. We are staring at multiple emergencies of epic proportions. Biden is trying to stabilize things

as his main priority.

[relayerbob]

127. Can we stop with the AOC infatuation already?

When she has another 20 yeas in the Congress, then she'll have enough wisdom to run for Pres. And I'll likely vote for her, if I'm still alive at that time. In the meantime, STFU and do your job

[Autumn]

128. True it is a little hazy now, what I'm looking for is a tough strong leader. Joe fits that bill

as long as he doesn't get caught up in Republican "bipartisanship".

[LudwigPastorius]

132. I imagine the Biden/Harris agenda breaks down like this:

1) Stop, or slow down, the ongoing COVID carnage.

1A) Prevent the economy from completely tanking/Prevent people from losing their health insurance, starving, losing their homes, getting their cars repoed due to pandemic job loss.

2) Start the long process of getting a working government up and running again.

3) Fix all the rest of the shit that needs to be done.

The "vision", from what I can tell so far, is one of competent, intelligent, compassionate adults back in charge.

...and, I really like it.

If that's not enough for AOC for now, coming out of this four year total shitshow, then I don't know what to tell her.

[Hekate]

159. That's pretty much what I've been praying for, myself

[betsuni]

148. She means there aren't enough slogans.

[Vinca]

162. AOC needs to give it a rest. Biden is inheriting what might be the biggest clusterfuck in our

history and I want him to feel good about who he chooses to help him manage it. It's insane to think seasoned professionals should be overlooked for newbies at this particular time in history. I don't like a pick or two, but I'm not the President-elect so I'll just shut up and give him a chance to turn this sinking ship around.

[DENVERPOPS]

168. You gotta believe

that Biden is consulting with Hillary and Obama each and every day for their thinking, and advice........

[AmericanCanuck]

163. Who cares what AOC thinks?

Media give her too much importance -- she is just one congressperson out of 435.

[Skittles]

166. Imagine that

yup

[TexasBushwhacker]

169. Has she written any bills yet? N/t