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BumRushDaShow

(129,654 posts)
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:12 PM Dec 2020

White House orders FDA chief to authorize Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine Friday or submit his resignation

Source: Washington Post

White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows on Friday told Stephen Hahn, the commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, to submit his resignation if the agency does not clear the nation’s first coronavirus vaccine by day’s end, according to people familiar with the situation who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss what happened.

The threat came on the same day that President Trump tweeted that the FDA is “a big, old, slow turtle” in its handling of vaccines, while exhorting Commissioner Stephen Hahn to “get the dam vaccines out NOW.” He added: “Stop playing games and start saving lives!!!” The warning led the FDA to accelerate its timetable for clearing America’s first vaccine from Saturday morning to later Friday. A White House official declined to comment, saying “we don’t comment on private conversations, but the Chief regularly requests updates on progress toward a vaccine.”

The warning, combined with the tweets, constituted the latest attack by Trump, who has complained vociferously that the vaccine wasn’t authorized before Election Day, blaming it on the ‘Deep State’ inside the agency that he accused of working against his reelection. Trump was also said to be upset that Britain cleared the vaccine before the United States, although the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine has been developed and reviewed in record time.

With the timetable apparently accelerated from Saturday morning, the FDA and Pfizer were rushing to complete the paperwork needed for the authorization, according to another individual who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he didn’t have authority to discuss the plans. An FDA statement issued early Friday morning said the FDA had informed Pfizer that it would “rapidly work toward finalization and issuance of an emergency use authorization” following Thursday’s endorsement of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine by an agency advisory committee.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/12/11/trump-stephen-hahn-fda-covid-vaccine/



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White House orders FDA chief to authorize Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine Friday or submit his resignation (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 2020 OP
Lol, that'll make his antivaxers take it sooner. fearnobush Dec 2020 #1
You beat me too it. The tease was "WH Orders FDA..." underpants Dec 2020 #2
Nothing but THREATS from this bunch of assholes bluestarone Dec 2020 #3
"Stop playing games and start saving lives!!!" yonder Dec 2020 #4
"Fore!" Mc Mike Dec 2020 #13
This will really put a kibosh on any trust in any vaccine. nt yaesu Dec 2020 #5
I agree with this: demmiblue Dec 2020 #6
Well, there goes any hope of enough people wanting to get the vaccine. PSPS Dec 2020 #7
Why is he in such a hurry for a vaccine for a "Democrat hoax"? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2020 #8
HaHa OhioTim Dec 2020 #24
No shortcuts was the goal---but Trump temper tantum flew past that goal............. riversedge Dec 2020 #9
This Whole Process Has Been Working On A End Of December Timeline DallasNE Dec 2020 #10
I guess it's time for Hahn to sign out early for the weekend and head for the nearest bar, mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2020 #11
Nothing says leadership quite like central scrutinizer Dec 2020 #12
Nailed it. ancianita Dec 2020 #15
And that will help ... AirmensMom Dec 2020 #14
In fairness... 986racer Dec 2020 #16
The "red tape" BumRushDaShow Dec 2020 #19
good god, is 21CFR a pain in my ass. uncle ray Dec 2020 #31
Used to take up a couple shelves with the hard copies BumRushDaShow Dec 2020 #32
The only thing streamlined by this complete disaster of an administration paleotn Dec 2020 #22
Yeah. Nothing reassures a jittery nation than making threats. C_U_L8R Dec 2020 #17
Please haul this lunatic sociopath out of OUR house and Lock Him Up for observation. Seriously. Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #18
Saving lives? paleotn Dec 2020 #20
For what it is worth, Stephen Hahn is publicly denying this story. Midnight Writer Dec 2020 #21
What's the rush? Must be momentum for the bogus Election lawsuits bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #23
So what is this all about? tRump hasn't "killed" enough Americans through shear negligence...... usaf-vet Dec 2020 #25
ridiculous bullshit from the malicious super-spreader TomDaisy Dec 2020 #26
Somewhere in his tiny pea brain chriscan64 Dec 2020 #27
Sure why wait for that "science stuff?" Botany Dec 2020 #28
Considering that these thugs thought this whole thing was a hoax at first (and probably still do)... SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #29
Unfortunately these theatrics aren't helping vaccine hesitancy. BlueWavePsych Dec 2020 #30
It's tough being the world's biggest loser. truthisfreedom Dec 2020 #33

underpants

(182,945 posts)
2. You beat me too it. The tease was "WH Orders FDA..."
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:14 PM
Dec 2020

then it was “threatened” or as our dear Melissa Carone in Michigan would say “threa’ened” and when I opened it in Safari it had the headline you posted.

Trump is such an asshole.

yonder

(9,681 posts)
4. "Stop playing games and start saving lives!!!"
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:17 PM
Dec 2020

We've been calling on tRump to do absolutely that for the last 9 months.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,346 posts)
8. Why is he in such a hurry for a vaccine for a "Democrat hoax"?
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:38 PM
Dec 2020

If his idiot followers had any brains they would ask that question.

riversedge

(70,346 posts)
9. No shortcuts was the goal---but Trump temper tantum flew past that goal.............
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:38 PM
Dec 2020



https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/12/11/trump-stephen-hahn-fda-covid-vaccine/

..............The statement was signed by Hahn and Peter Marks, director of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, which reviews vaccines. The officials said the FDA has also notified the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Operation Warp Speed, “so they can execute their plans for timely vaccine distribution.”

The threat injects politics once more into the vaccine race, potentially undermining public trust in one of the most crucial tools to end the pandemic that has killed more than 290,000 Americans. It comes in the midst of a process that had been designed to show no shortcuts were taken in reviewing the safety and effectiveness of a vaccine.

The Food and Drug Administration’s advisory committee reviewed the vaccine for more than eight hours Thursday and voted overwhelmingly in favor of using it in people age 16 and up. It is unclear whether a decision on the vaccine on a Friday night would do anything to speed up the delivery of the first vaccine doses.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
10. This Whole Process Has Been Working On A End Of December Timeline
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:49 PM
Dec 2020

The distribution and vaccination processes are set for an end of December roll-out. Having this approved today is meaningless in the sense of any large scale start of vaccinations. Meddling now will only mean more glitches to iron out. It is ill-advised to do this.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,662 posts)
11. I guess it's time for Hahn to sign out early for the weekend and head for the nearest bar,
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:57 PM
Dec 2020

where he and his colleagues can have happy hour. Or at least they can have a virtual happy hour over Teams. I mean, if his computer isn't immediately confiscated by secuity.

I've onto the FDA campus, once. It's literally beyond the Beltway. You go under the Beltway at Hillandale, Maryland, and keep going.

I was in Hillandale, and I wanted to get back to the Metrorail, pronto. Pro tip: just because a bus's signboard says "Silver Spring," that doesn't mean that it's taking a direct route. The one I had boarded didn't.

central scrutinizer

(11,663 posts)
12. Nothing says leadership quite like
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:13 PM
Dec 2020

Doing nothing constructive for 10 months, not even attending meetings, then issuing threats, “get off your ass or I’ll fire you.”

AirmensMom

(14,649 posts)
14. And that will help ...
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:28 PM
Dec 2020

HOW? SMDH

I can't say what I'm thinking right now. But damn I wish this madness would end.

986racer

(31 posts)
16. In fairness...
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:47 PM
Dec 2020

I'm sure that there is a lot of red tape that could be improved upon at the FDA. However, waiting until the very last minute to ask them to change that red tape is stupid and just undermines confidence. They could have had reviewed the process months ago to make sure it was streamlined as much as possible.

Then again... maybe it has been as streamlined as much as possible. It's hard to tell with this administration.

BumRushDaShow

(129,654 posts)
19. The "red tape"
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 05:21 PM
Dec 2020

is in 21CFR - the set of volumes of regulations developed to comply with various laws passed by Congress going back to the 1906 Pure Food and Drug Act.

Food and Drug Law

Of course we could always go back to the "old days".

uncle ray

(3,157 posts)
31. good god, is 21CFR a pain in my ass.
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 08:13 PM
Dec 2020

but a mostly necessary pain. i've been in med device manufacturing for only 2 decades. we've come light years in patient safety in that time, thanks to regulation.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
22. The only thing streamlined by this complete disaster of an administration
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 05:37 PM
Dec 2020

is how to get more tax dollars into Donnie's pocket. In their minds, streamlining is synonymous with "what's good for Donne." Nothing more. The rest of us can go die somewhere for all they care.

Evolve Dammit

(16,781 posts)
18. Please haul this lunatic sociopath out of OUR house and Lock Him Up for observation. Seriously.
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:57 PM
Dec 2020

He ain't right and he's fucking killing us. Seems to be pretty happy doing so, I would add... Executions are keeping him amused as well. Sick fucker.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
20. Saving lives?
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 05:32 PM
Dec 2020

Is that a Donnie thing now? What about the hoax? Or no worse than the flu? I'm so confused.

Midnight Writer

(21,818 posts)
21. For what it is worth, Stephen Hahn is publicly denying this story.
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 05:35 PM
Dec 2020

Of course, in this land of smoke and mirrors...

usaf-vet

(6,215 posts)
25. So what is this all about? tRump hasn't "killed" enough Americans through shear negligence......
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 06:31 PM
Dec 2020

..... by ignoring the expert advice of how to deal with the Covid pandemic?

So now he is willing to ignore FDA guidelines to ensure all the proper steps have been taken to release a new drug to the marketplace.

He is willing to chance possible dangerous side effects and possible loss of additional lives. So he can claim his delirious success of getting a Covid vaccine out.

How long before he tags it the tRump vaccine?

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
27. Somewhere in his tiny pea brain
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 07:00 PM
Dec 2020

he thinks that if a vaccine comes out while he's in office, he gets the credit as if he did something. He also believed that if it came out the day before the election, it would garner him votes because, again, he think he gets the credit.

SWBTATTReg

(22,176 posts)
29. Considering that these thugs thought this whole thing was a hoax at first (and probably still do)...
Fri Dec 11, 2020, 07:14 PM
Dec 2020

Trying to sidestep/force the FDA to abnormally approve this vaccine for use in such a manner leaves a lot to be desired. Thugs deserve to go to jail, their callous indifference to lives lost over the last year has revealed just how thuggish, how craven these despicable human beings are, starting with the one thug at the top, rump. I hope that they let the genies out of the bottle, and start the lawsuits galore once rump and his thugs are out of office. They'll never know a day of peace or rest...

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