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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 11:26 AM Dec 2020

Stephen Miller Claims "An Alternate Set of Electors" Will Certify Trump as the Winner

Source: PoliticsUSA

Presidential adviser Stephen Miller claims “an alternative” group of electors will vote to certify President Donald Trump as the winner of the 2020 election on the morning ahead of the electoral college vote that will certify President-elect Joe Biden’s election win.

“The only date in the Constitution is January 20, so we have more than enough time to right the wrong of this fraudulent election and certify Donald Trump as the winner of the election,” Miller said.

“As we speak, an alternate slate of electors in the contested states is going to vote and we are going to send those results to Congress,” he added.




Read more: https://www.politicususa.com/2020/12/14/stephen-miller-claims-an-alternate-set-of-electors-will-certify-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-2020-election.html



Now, before you panic about this: NONE of the States in question have had their Legislature authorize this "alternative group of electors". They have NO authority to be counted by Congress in January.
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Stephen Miller Claims "An Alternate Set of Electors" Will Certify Trump as the Winner (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2020 OP
Go live on an alternative planet. NCDem47 Dec 2020 #1
A nazi Fascist one full of fux-$nooze clones. n/t Lock him up. Dec 2020 #80
Drop dead Miller, you f**king racist pig. He must be unhappy because he won't be able to inflict still_one Dec 2020 #2
It appears that he has dropped dead but has returned. yankeepants Dec 2020 #5
Both him and Rudy still_one Dec 2020 #7
I'm not sure he was ever alive in the first place! Canoe52 Dec 2020 #23
Shouldn't he be arrested immediately for sedition??? LaMouffette Dec 2020 #3
I'm honesty getting tired of how much "Sedition" is being thown around. brooklynite Dec 2020 #6
Me too. Ligyron Dec 2020 #28
Probably not, unfortunately. Laha Dec 2020 #31
+100 onenote Dec 2020 #41
So what does qualify as sedition then? hadEnuf Dec 2020 #63
Findlaw: definition at link Hekate Dec 2020 #66
Thank you for the link. hadEnuf Dec 2020 #83
I get that its all about technical definitions quakerboy Dec 2020 #71
Yes. It ends up losing all meaning when talked about the way it has been of late nt Hekate Dec 2020 #65
You may be tired of it Rural_Progressive Dec 2020 #82
If on January 6th EndlessWire Dec 2020 #100
"arrested on the floor of the Congress when it happens." brooklynite Dec 2020 #101
Of course the "alternative facts" gang has a set of "alternate electors" True Dough Dec 2020 #4
Get bent, Nazi Blue Owl Dec 2020 #8
"alternate slate of electors"??? joshdawg Dec 2020 #9
and this will happen in Stephen Miller's "alternative history" DBoon Dec 2020 #10
Sooo exhausted with these people. What the fuck. Really. onecaliberal Dec 2020 #11
laughable nonsense, delusions like this is a sure sign of mental illness beachbumbob Dec 2020 #12
The Constitution and the Supreme Court don't recognize alternative sources duforsure Dec 2020 #13
Not only is he a fascist attempting a coup, he doesn't know what 'alternate' means muriel_volestrangler Dec 2020 #14
Alternate electors? El Mimbreno Dec 2020 #51
So their plan is a literal shadow government? JohnnyRingo Dec 2020 #15
Birtherism, with skeleton crew /nt bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #18
The Alternative White House! SomewhereInTheMiddle Dec 2020 #35
Naaaa. Twitter is absolutely done with christx30 Dec 2020 #78
Oh, he'll find someone else's twitter platform to use...just a matter of time...twitter should have SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #89
Should have thought of this... JohnnyRingo Dec 2020 #95
Um SoCalNative Dec 2020 #16
Treasonous bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #17
All hail bucolic_frolic, King of the Gauls! There, now you're officially the King. Canoe52 Dec 2020 #25
lol, yes, there it is, with just as much relevance and authority as Old King Trump after 1/20/21 bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #26
Seditious. 'Treasonous' is being thrown around far too much these days. GoneOffShore Dec 2020 #43
You got a lot of gall, that's all I can say Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #81
lol, the subtlety is not lost, star for the day to you bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #84
Just crazy sully shit.... ashredux Dec 2020 #19
This idiotic nazi Dakota Flint Dec 2020 #20
pathetic little nazi wannabe samnsara Dec 2020 #21
shitbag being kicked to the curb says what?...🤣 bringthePaine Dec 2020 #22
Little Nazi Stevie trying to be relevant. He's got a family to feed now. littlemissmartypants Dec 2020 #24
I'm going to write a check for a million dollars Marthe48 Dec 2020 #27
I'm going to call my Loan Officer today using my alternate assets as collateral. Hugin Dec 2020 #32
My pretend stuff would cover the pretend check Marthe48 Dec 2020 #34
As an alternative financial advisor, I'm happy to help. Hugin Dec 2020 #36
You'll need to send your votes to Alternate Congress William Seger Dec 2020 #29
All the Trumpers are descending more and more.. ananda Dec 2020 #30
Cool story bro.... Jon King Dec 2020 #33
That was my first thought as well SomewhereInTheMiddle Dec 2020 #44
Here's a joke Marthe48 Dec 2020 #37
+1 Hugin Dec 2020 #40
Are Republicans so fucking stupid BlueIdaho Dec 2020 #38
Yes. And millions will be infuriated when this doesn't work. n/t pnwmom Dec 2020 #47
Sounds like a silver lining to me. BlueIdaho Dec 2020 #50
Not if they're on the streets throwing pipe bombs. n/t pnwmom Dec 2020 #60
Actually,m our FRiends seem to think this is a pretty meaningless effort.... brooklynite Dec 2020 #61
Like Hitler fantasizing that a ghost army was going to save him in his bunker. nt yaesu Dec 2020 #39
It will make a glorious Downfall spoof video! Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2020 #54
There may be one made already but if not there should be ;o) nt yaesu Dec 2020 #69
Hey, let's send "alternate" elector results for the states Trump won. onenote Dec 2020 #42
+1 Hugin Dec 2020 #46
?That little momzer is going to join Trump in this charade until the streets are running with blood? Hekate Dec 2020 #45
Soon to be followed by the alternative President tweeting daily from Merde de Lago. jalan48 Dec 2020 #48
Geez, here I have been spelling it wrong, gab13by13 Dec 2020 #56
That works too. jalan48 Dec 2020 #58
Keep yapping, Stephen Miller .. DemoTex Dec 2020 #49
im also going to send an alternative bunch of electors from texas rdking647 Dec 2020 #52
So Stephen knows an alternative group of people TNNurse Dec 2020 #53
This guy is a traitor. What he, Trump, Nosferatu-liani and the others are doing PatrickforO Dec 2020 #55
2 fold purpose 1.the cult will immediately give money. 2 dotard can say his legally appointed Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #57
Do you think Miller's back is sore from constantly moving the goal posts? apnu Dec 2020 #59
From the party that brought you alternate facts. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2020 #62
Maybe on planet B mahina Dec 2020 #64
Stephen Miller should be kicked out of his synagogue. Crowman2009 Dec 2020 #67
Time for Rebl2 Dec 2020 #68
Classic Cartoon Villain. byronius Dec 2020 #70
First, he doesn't get to send those results to Congress. LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #72
Sounds like he's living in trumps head, which is an alternate universe duforsure Dec 2020 #73
right, just as there are alternate facts they keep spreading onetexan Dec 2020 #74
Miller is nobody. He doesn't matter anymore. Progressive Jones Dec 2020 #75
a truly evil human being llashram Dec 2020 #76
This administration is going out the same way it came in. Marcuse Dec 2020 #77
Anything is possible Larissa Dec 2020 #79
This is Electoral Fraud organized by the tRump White House for criminal gain. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2020 #85
And Congress will ignore the "alternate" slate TexasBushwhacker Dec 2020 #86
these guys are as delusional as the nazis in the bunker KG Dec 2020 #87
An idiot talking nonsense. UCmeNdc Dec 2020 #88
Who Will Represent Georgia In The Senate On January 6th? DallasNE Dec 2020 #90
This has to be illegal. honest.abe Dec 2020 #91
The playbook is explained on Huffpo - Get ready to be president Nancy Pelosi mdbl Dec 2020 #92
I'm willing to be an alternative dentist if he needs a root canal. cab67 Dec 2020 #93
Multiple states means it was organized at a higher level. keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #94
And under what authority does Miller announce this ? Captain Zero Dec 2020 #96
He's not a traitor how? Kid Berwyn Dec 2020 #97
geez!! Hang it up already!! riversedge Dec 2020 #98
Just like every loser supervillain, he can't stop monologuing. truthisfreedom Dec 2020 #99
Will they use alternative facts? zanana1 Dec 2020 #102
The whole Trump cult lives in an "alternative reality." Lord Magus Dec 2020 #103
 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
2. Drop dead Miller, you f**king racist pig. He must be unhappy because he won't be able to inflict
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 11:29 AM
Dec 2020

pain on undocumented people soon

LaMouffette

(2,640 posts)
3. Shouldn't he be arrested immediately for sedition???
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 11:31 AM
Dec 2020

Along with his "alternative electors"?

Otherwise, he and Trump and all of Trump's other enablers will indeed set up a shadow presidency.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
6. I'm honesty getting tired of how much "Sedition" is being thown around.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 11:33 AM
Dec 2020

Nobody is going to be charged with Sedition after Biden takes office.

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
28. Me too.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:14 PM
Dec 2020

Besides, there are enough other crimes, financial and otherwise, that many of these jerks can be charged with and convicted on. If Biden will just appoint an AG who will fairly, but thoroughly investigate and charge where appropriate, we will have many years of laughter and great satisfaction watching these criminals squirm.

onenote

(46,139 posts)
41. +100
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:37 PM
Dec 2020

Which is the approximate number of times I've pointed out that sedition has a specific definition in the US Code and the attempts to challenge, block and reverse the certification of Biden's victory in various states may be offensive, stupid, frivolous, etc., but its not "sedition".

hadEnuf

(3,613 posts)
83. Thank you for the link.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 03:58 PM
Dec 2020

It seems that the puppeteers would really need to get their hands dirty in order to be charged with actual sedition, which will never happen seeing they have so many fanatics at their disposal.

quakerboy

(14,864 posts)
71. I get that its all about technical definitions
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 02:25 PM
Dec 2020

But when you add coordination with armed mobs descending on cities, government offices, and individual government officials trying to force them to overturn election results, arent you getting awful close to that line?

Rural_Progressive

(1,107 posts)
82. You may be tired of it
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 03:46 PM
Dec 2020

but that doesn't change the fact that "sedition" is precisely what is being engaged in here.

The definition per Webster: "incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority"

If they are not charged with it this time then we will be repeating the mistake that was made after the end of the active, or hot, part of the Civil War. The leaders of that seditious act got away with it last time, heck, monuments to those leaders were allowed to be displayed in public. I hope I'm wrong but it sounds like you might be okay with them getting off scot free with this again.

I am not and I hope as a party we are willing to make sure these people understand that actions have consequences. To behave in this manner at any time is an action of sedition, to act this way during a time of public health crisis is beyond the pale.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
100. If on January 6th
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 01:28 AM
Dec 2020

a different set of Electors is presented to Congress, Miller and the Electors will have committed sedition and should be arrested on the floor of the Congress when it happens.

A lot of action depends on how tired of something you are. Your enemy keeps at it until you are exhausted and willing to look the other way.

It absolutely will be sedition that is punishable. If the Dems are too tired to enforce the law, then that is one thing. But, it doesn't mean it isn't sedition. If the Repubs get away with it, where the second set of Electors is just turned away, then they will do it again. Or, something worse. They have to be punished, the same way we get punished for running a stop sign. The orderly conduct of our government depends on the process.

I don't care about the word "bipartisan," either. But, I have to put up with it.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
101. "arrested on the floor of the Congress when it happens."
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 09:20 AM
Dec 2020

Are you under the impression that the Electors (real or self-appointed) pile in to the House Chamber and demand to be counted? All the House and Senate do is receive a report of the certificates of Election that each State has submitted. No State official or Legislative Chamber has appointed the Trump Electors so they'll never be mentioned.

True Dough

(26,664 posts)
4. Of course the "alternative facts" gang has a set of "alternate electors"
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 11:32 AM
Dec 2020

They should all alternate doing 10-year stretches of hard time.

joshdawg

(2,965 posts)
9. "alternate slate of electors"???
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 11:34 AM
Dec 2020

Is that like "alternative facts"??

Miller, you Adolf Eichmann look-a-like, you are one sick m'effer! Just ESD!

DBoon

(24,982 posts)
10. and this will happen in Stephen Miller's "alternative history"
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 11:38 AM
Dec 2020

The one where the Germans won WWII and where the electors cast their ballots under swastika flags

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
13. The Constitution and the Supreme Court don't recognize alternative sources
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 11:39 AM
Dec 2020

Or alternative facts for election results. trump is desperately claiming anything he can, but over and over again he failed to present any courtroom proceeding with evidence of any of his claims this election was a fraud. If he had the evidence he claims why didn't he have his lawyers present it? Just like with his birther claims he has none, just his propaganda. He's using this to fleece his followers with, and knows he lost, and likely needs money bad because he's a failure, and for legal fees from all his corruption he's been involved in he'll have to answer for.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,199 posts)
14. Not only is he a fascist attempting a coup, he doesn't know what 'alternate' means
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 11:41 AM
Dec 2020

People correct it to be 'alternative', but that isn't what he said; 'alternate' means one of two items that are regularly swapped; "we meet on alternate Tuesdays", etc.

For the rest of his garbage, who's the 'we' in "we are going to send those results to Congress"? Miller, Sidney Powell and her dead kraken? Miller doesn't get to send anything to Congress about elections. The states do. Will someone take a copy of the Constitution, make him read it, and if that doesn't work, ram it up his arse?

El Mimbreno

(820 posts)
51. Alternate electors?
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 01:03 PM
Dec 2020

WTF constitution is HE reading? I Like your suggestion, also your signature line pic. A Kerryman I met a few years ago used the term "fookin' maniac". But gobshite works, as well as "wee gombeen man".

JohnnyRingo

(20,869 posts)
15. So their plan is a literal shadow government?
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 11:45 AM
Dec 2020

With Trump holding office at "The Florida White House". Barking orders to republicans in Congress.
Actually, I can see them trying this.

35. The Alternative White House!
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:28 PM
Dec 2020

And he will get the twitter handle @TheRealAlternativePresident.

We should have thought of this four years ago!

christx30

(6,241 posts)
78. Naaaa. Twitter is absolutely done with
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 03:26 PM
Dec 2020

Don the Con. They can’t wait until Jan 20th so they can boot his ass off the platform.
I wonder what Trump will do if he can’t tweet anymore. He’ll probably explode if he can’t get in front of a camera.
And the Trumpettes will pay $50,000 to get in the splash zone.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
89. Oh, he'll find someone else's twitter platform to use...just a matter of time...twitter should have
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 04:53 PM
Dec 2020

booted his a&& off the platform a long time ago...as a matter of fact, all of these people should have been booted off, for spreading false and malignant election claims often and repeatedly.

JohnnyRingo

(20,869 posts)
95. Should have thought of this...
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 06:39 PM
Dec 2020

244 years ago.

Mark my words, though. Trump has already labeled Biden an "illegitimate president" and predicted that he will not be able to govern.

This latest hair brained scheme to usurp the Oval Office depends on how fired up his base gets, because that's what scares the republicans in office. With luck, Trump will walk out in front of a street car.

bucolic_frolic

(55,129 posts)
26. lol, yes, there it is, with just as much relevance and authority as Old King Trump after 1/20/21
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:11 PM
Dec 2020

bucolic_frolic

(55,129 posts)
84. lol, the subtlety is not lost, star for the day to you
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 04:04 PM
Dec 2020

much can be cached in satire leaving no cash to clear the check!

littlemissmartypants

(33,579 posts)
24. Little Nazi Stevie trying to be relevant. He's got a family to feed now.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:07 PM
Dec 2020

Gotta make sure he's got a ticket on the gravy train.

Marthe48

(23,174 posts)
27. I'm going to write a check for a million dollars
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:13 PM
Dec 2020

Has as much chance of reality as that phantom slate of electors.

stfu you you reptilian f***head.

Hugin

(37,847 posts)
32. I'm going to call my Loan Officer today using my alternate assets as collateral.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:21 PM
Dec 2020

You know, the five Van Goghs, Fort Knox, The Brooklyn Bridge, Alaska, and an autographed photograph of Darryl the Sasquatch I have stuffed in my mattress.

Should go over swimmingly.

ananda

(35,140 posts)
30. All the Trumpers are descending more and more..
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:17 PM
Dec 2020

into utter insanity.

I have to admit I do find the craziness interesting,
even enjoyable sometimes... but really, this is
our country right now, and it's also very
disturbing.

44. That was my first thought as well
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:44 PM
Dec 2020

It could be interesting to see what McKinnon and Co, do with this.

Marthe48

(23,174 posts)
37. Here's a joke
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:31 PM
Dec 2020

A soldier was ready to go to battle, but his unit had run out of guns. His Sgt. told him to point his finger and say "bang, bang, bangity bang" so the guy went on the field, saw a guy approaching him. He shrugged and pointed his finger, yelling, "Bang! Bang! Bangity bang!"

And the guy yelled back, "Tank! Tank! Tankity tank!"

miller and impeached traitor are yelling "vote! vote! vote-ity vote!" from their pillow fort.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
38. Are Republicans so fucking stupid
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:32 PM
Dec 2020

They still don’t realize they are being played? What a bunch of fools.

onenote

(46,139 posts)
42. Hey, let's send "alternate" elector results for the states Trump won.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:39 PM
Dec 2020

And while we're at it, can we get the Democrats who didn't win their races for House and Senate seats to show up on January 3 demanding to be sworn in as "alternate" members of Congress?

Hugin

(37,847 posts)
46. +1
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:47 PM
Dec 2020

While, I would spend my hard earned non-alternative cash to see such a deserving spectacle, I doubt it'll happen.

Too many grumps about.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
45. ?That little momzer is going to join Trump in this charade until the streets are running with blood?
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:47 PM
Dec 2020

Is that the plan?

DemoTex

(26,360 posts)
49. Keep yapping, Stephen Miller ..
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:57 PM
Dec 2020

Meanwhile, somewhere, a Madame Thérèse Defarge quietly knits.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
52. im also going to send an alternative bunch of electors from texas
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 01:04 PM
Dec 2020

awarding texas to biden.


it has as much sway as millers

TNNurse

(7,540 posts)
53. So Stephen knows an alternative group of people
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 01:05 PM
Dec 2020

who are willing to lie and cheat and go to federal prison for Trump???

PatrickforO

(15,424 posts)
55. This guy is a traitor. What he, Trump, Nosferatu-liani and the others are doing
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 01:10 PM
Dec 2020

is high treason.

It is.

They are trying to overthrow the results of an election and take power contrary to the will of the people.

Thekaspervote

(35,820 posts)
57. 2 fold purpose 1.the cult will immediately give money. 2 dotard can say his legally appointed
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 01:22 PM
Dec 2020

Electors were denied being able to vote.

apnu

(8,790 posts)
59. Do you think Miller's back is sore from constantly moving the goal posts?
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 01:34 PM
Dec 2020

It has to be exhausting.

Crowman2009

(3,524 posts)
67. Stephen Miller should be kicked out of his synagogue.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 01:53 PM
Dec 2020

I think "Herem" is what it's called if I'm not mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Rebl2

(17,738 posts)
68. Time for
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 02:03 PM
Dec 2020

the Supreme Court to come out and definitively say after today, that Joe will be our next president and that any alternative groups electors have NO standing or authority.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
72. First, he doesn't get to send those results to Congress.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 02:33 PM
Dec 2020

Second, there is no alternative slate of electors.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
73. Sounds like he's living in trumps head, which is an alternate universe
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 02:43 PM
Dec 2020

With alternate facts, and an alternate reality, where the truth is a lie, and his lies are the truth.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
76. a truly evil human being
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 03:13 PM
Dec 2020

just like his fuhrer who is denying he has been shown the door. May his fuhrer leave the WH and face the last years of his life penniless and hopefully with lasting symptoms of Covid-19.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,202 posts)
86. And Congress will ignore the "alternate" slate
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 04:13 PM
Dec 2020

I am sick of the Trump administration perpetrating these lied. It keeps their minions riled up, thinking that an "alternate" slate of electors is even possible. It is unconstitutional and unAmerican. They're going to end up getting someone killed by the "Proud Boys" or some other group of heavily armed right wing nut jobs.

UCmeNdc

(9,655 posts)
88. An idiot talking nonsense.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 04:47 PM
Dec 2020

It is all about creating an altered reality to present to the news media.

DallasNE

(8,007 posts)
90. Who Will Represent Georgia In The Senate On January 6th?
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 04:59 PM
Dec 2020

And does it matter as Pence would be the tie breaking vote anyway. And the GOP could jam through rule chances specific to this election to hear from both slates. Georgia will not have certified its January 5th election by January 6th even if both races have been called. But this will never pass in the House and it is highly unlikely that the Senate would go along with it anyway as Murkowski, Romney and Collins would block it. I do expect some kind of drama to be brought up but see zero chance of success. The fat lady has sung.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
94. Multiple states means it was organized at a higher level.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 05:47 PM
Dec 2020

Multiple states means it was organized at a higher level.

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
96. And under what authority does Miller announce this ?
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 06:50 PM
Dec 2020

This is like the Munich Putsch.
is there some alternate law we can use to arrest and jail him?

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
103. The whole Trump cult lives in an "alternative reality."
Thu Dec 17, 2020, 04:39 AM
Dec 2020

If only we could physically relocate them to an "alternative country" or even an "alternative planet."

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