Stephen Miller Claims "An Alternate Set of Electors" Will Certify Trump as the Winner
Source: PoliticsUSA
Presidential adviser Stephen Miller claims an alternative group of electors will vote to certify President Donald Trump as the winner of the 2020 election on the morning ahead of the electoral college vote that will certify President-elect Joe Bidens election win.
The only date in the Constitution is January 20, so we have more than enough time to right the wrong of this fraudulent election and certify Donald Trump as the winner of the election, Miller said.
As we speak, an alternate slate of electors in the contested states is going to vote and we are going to send those results to Congress, he added.
Link to tweet
Read more: https://www.politicususa.com/2020/12/14/stephen-miller-claims-an-alternate-set-of-electors-will-certify-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-2020-election.html
Now, before you panic about this: NONE of the States in question have had their Legislature authorize this "alternative group of electors". They have NO authority to be counted by Congress in January.
NCDem47
(3,470 posts)So sick of these SOBs.
Lock him up.
(9,786 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)pain on undocumented people soon
yankeepants
(1,979 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)Canoe52
(2,963 posts)LaMouffette
(2,640 posts)Along with his "alternative electors"?
Otherwise, he and Trump and all of Trump's other enablers will indeed set up a shadow presidency.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Nobody is going to be charged with Sedition after Biden takes office.
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)Besides, there are enough other crimes, financial and otherwise, that many of these jerks can be charged with and convicted on. If Biden will just appoint an AG who will fairly, but thoroughly investigate and charge where appropriate, we will have many years of laughter and great satisfaction watching these criminals squirm.
Laha
(433 posts)But we should still call it for what it is.
Which is the approximate number of times I've pointed out that sedition has a specific definition in the US Code and the attempts to challenge, block and reverse the certification of Biden's victory in various states may be offensive, stupid, frivolous, etc., but its not "sedition".
hadEnuf
(3,613 posts)Really curious.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)hadEnuf
(3,613 posts)It seems that the puppeteers would really need to get their hands dirty in order to be charged with actual sedition, which will never happen seeing they have so many fanatics at their disposal.
quakerboy
(14,864 posts)But when you add coordination with armed mobs descending on cities, government offices, and individual government officials trying to force them to overturn election results, arent you getting awful close to that line?
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Rural_Progressive
(1,107 posts)but that doesn't change the fact that "sedition" is precisely what is being engaged in here.
The definition per Webster: "incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority"
If they are not charged with it this time then we will be repeating the mistake that was made after the end of the active, or hot, part of the Civil War. The leaders of that seditious act got away with it last time, heck, monuments to those leaders were allowed to be displayed in public. I hope I'm wrong but it sounds like you might be okay with them getting off scot free with this again.
I am not and I hope as a party we are willing to make sure these people understand that actions have consequences. To behave in this manner at any time is an action of sedition, to act this way during a time of public health crisis is beyond the pale.
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)a different set of Electors is presented to Congress, Miller and the Electors will have committed sedition and should be arrested on the floor of the Congress when it happens.
A lot of action depends on how tired of something you are. Your enemy keeps at it until you are exhausted and willing to look the other way.
It absolutely will be sedition that is punishable. If the Dems are too tired to enforce the law, then that is one thing. But, it doesn't mean it isn't sedition. If the Repubs get away with it, where the second set of Electors is just turned away, then they will do it again. Or, something worse. They have to be punished, the same way we get punished for running a stop sign. The orderly conduct of our government depends on the process.
I don't care about the word "bipartisan," either. But, I have to put up with it.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Are you under the impression that the Electors (real or self-appointed) pile in to the House Chamber and demand to be counted? All the House and Senate do is receive a report of the certificates of Election that each State has submitted. No State official or Legislative Chamber has appointed the Trump Electors so they'll never be mentioned.
True Dough
(26,664 posts)They should all alternate doing 10-year stretches of hard time.
Blue Owl
(59,086 posts)joshdawg
(2,965 posts)Is that like "alternative facts"??
Miller, you Adolf Eichmann look-a-like, you are one sick m'effer! Just ESD!
DBoon
(24,982 posts)The one where the Germans won WWII and where the electors cast their ballots under swastika flags
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)Or alternative facts for election results. trump is desperately claiming anything he can, but over and over again he failed to present any courtroom proceeding with evidence of any of his claims this election was a fraud. If he had the evidence he claims why didn't he have his lawyers present it? Just like with his birther claims he has none, just his propaganda. He's using this to fleece his followers with, and knows he lost, and likely needs money bad because he's a failure, and for legal fees from all his corruption he's been involved in he'll have to answer for.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,199 posts)People correct it to be 'alternative', but that isn't what he said; 'alternate' means one of two items that are regularly swapped; "we meet on alternate Tuesdays", etc.
For the rest of his garbage, who's the 'we' in "we are going to send those results to Congress"? Miller, Sidney Powell and her dead kraken? Miller doesn't get to send anything to Congress about elections. The states do. Will someone take a copy of the Constitution, make him read it, and if that doesn't work, ram it up his arse?
El Mimbreno
(820 posts)WTF constitution is HE reading? I Like your suggestion, also your signature line pic. A Kerryman I met a few years ago used the term "fookin' maniac". But gobshite works, as well as "wee gombeen man".
JohnnyRingo
(20,869 posts)With Trump holding office at "The Florida White House". Barking orders to republicans in Congress.
Actually, I can see them trying this.
bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)SomewhereInTheMiddle
(661 posts)And he will get the twitter handle @TheRealAlternativePresident.
We should have thought of this four years ago!
christx30
(6,241 posts)Don the Con. They cant wait until Jan 20th so they can boot his ass off the platform.
I wonder what Trump will do if he cant tweet anymore. Hell probably explode if he cant get in front of a camera.
And the Trumpettes will pay $50,000 to get in the splash zone.
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)booted his a&& off the platform a long time ago...as a matter of fact, all of these people should have been booted off, for spreading false and malignant election claims often and repeatedly.
JohnnyRingo
(20,869 posts)244 years ago.
Mark my words, though. Trump has already labeled Biden an "illegitimate president" and predicted that he will not be able to govern.
This latest hair brained scheme to usurp the Oval Office depends on how fired up his base gets, because that's what scares the republicans in office. With luck, Trump will walk out in front of a street car.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)
bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)and I hereby declare myself the King of the Gauls
Canoe52
(2,963 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)GoneOffShore
(18,020 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)much can be cached in satire leaving no cash to clear the check!
ashredux
(2,928 posts)Dakota Flint
(219 posts)Apparently, it has never read the constitution and is too stupid to do so.
samnsara
(18,767 posts)bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)littlemissmartypants
(33,579 posts)Gotta make sure he's got a ticket on the gravy train.
Marthe48
(23,174 posts)Has as much chance of reality as that phantom slate of electors.
stfu you you reptilian f***head.
Hugin
(37,847 posts)You know, the five Van Goghs, Fort Knox, The Brooklyn Bridge, Alaska, and an autographed photograph of Darryl the Sasquatch I have stuffed in my mattress.
Should go over swimmingly.
Marthe48
(23,174 posts)good idea! Thanks
Hugin
(37,847 posts)William Seger
(12,442 posts)ananda
(35,140 posts)into utter insanity.
I have to admit I do find the craziness interesting,
even enjoyable sometimes... but really, this is
our country right now, and it's also very
disturbing.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)At this point they are a walking/talking SNL skit.
SomewhereInTheMiddle
(661 posts)It could be interesting to see what McKinnon and Co, do with this.
Marthe48
(23,174 posts)A soldier was ready to go to battle, but his unit had run out of guns. His Sgt. told him to point his finger and say "bang, bang, bangity bang" so the guy went on the field, saw a guy approaching him. He shrugged and pointed his finger, yelling, "Bang! Bang! Bangity bang!"
And the guy yelled back, "Tank! Tank! Tankity tank!"
miller and impeached traitor are yelling "vote! vote! vote-ity vote!" from their pillow fort.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)They still dont realize they are being played? What a bunch of fools.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Anything to raise their blood pressure...
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)yaesu
(9,326 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(27,461 posts)yaesu
(9,326 posts)onenote
(46,139 posts)And while we're at it, can we get the Democrats who didn't win their races for House and Senate seats to show up on January 3 demanding to be sworn in as "alternate" members of Congress?
While, I would spend my hard earned non-alternative cash to see such a deserving spectacle, I doubt it'll happen.
Too many grumps about.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Is that the plan?
jalan48
(14,914 posts)gab13by13
(32,314 posts)I thought it was Mar-el-Loco.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)DemoTex
(26,360 posts)Meanwhile, somewhere, a Madame Thérèse Defarge quietly knits.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)awarding texas to biden.
it has as much sway as millers
TNNurse
(7,540 posts)who are willing to lie and cheat and go to federal prison for Trump???
PatrickforO
(15,424 posts)is high treason.
It is.
They are trying to overthrow the results of an election and take power contrary to the will of the people.
Thekaspervote
(35,820 posts)Electors were denied being able to vote.
apnu
(8,790 posts)It has to be exhausting.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,697 posts)mahina
(20,645 posts)I hope he goes back there instead of trying to bring it to us anymore
Crowman2009
(3,524 posts)I think "Herem" is what it's called if I'm not mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Rebl2
(17,738 posts)the Supreme Court to come out and definitively say after today, that Joe will be our next president and that any alternative groups electors have NO standing or authority.
byronius
(7,973 posts)Plain old Evil, right up front.
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)Second, there is no alternative slate of electors.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)With alternate facts, and an alternate reality, where the truth is a lie, and his lies are the truth.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)llashram
(6,269 posts)just like his fuhrer who is denying he has been shown the door. May his fuhrer leave the WH and face the last years of his life penniless and hopefully with lasting symptoms of Covid-19.
Marcuse
(9,009 posts)
Larissa
(793 posts). . . at the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(21,202 posts)I am sick of the Trump administration perpetrating these lied. It keeps their minions riled up, thinking that an "alternate" slate of electors is even possible. It is unconstitutional and unAmerican. They're going to end up getting someone killed by the "Proud Boys" or some other group of heavily armed right wing nut jobs.
KG
(28,795 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,655 posts)It is all about creating an altered reality to present to the news media.
DallasNE
(8,007 posts)And does it matter as Pence would be the tie breaking vote anyway. And the GOP could jam through rule chances specific to this election to hear from both slates. Georgia will not have certified its January 5th election by January 6th even if both races have been called. But this will never pass in the House and it is highly unlikely that the Senate would go along with it anyway as Murkowski, Romney and Collins would block it. I do expect some kind of drama to be brought up but see zero chance of success. The fat lady has sung.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)Charges should be filed against all those involved.
mdbl
(8,650 posts)Make sure to read the 2nd half of theh article.
cab67
(3,744 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Multiple states means it was organized at a higher level.
Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)This is like the Munich Putsch.
is there some alternate law we can use to arrest and jail him?
Kid Berwyn
(24,374 posts)Lock him up.
riversedge
(80,802 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,532 posts)And thats his downfall.
zanana1
(6,488 posts)Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)If only we could physically relocate them to an "alternative country" or even an "alternative planet."