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Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 06:11 AM Dec 2020

US election: General Michael Flynn says Donald Trump could declare martial law in swing states

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Source: NZ Herald

17 Dec, 2020 08:51 PM
4 minutes to read
NZ Herald


General Michael Flynn, the former national security adviser to Donald Trump, has hinted the United States President could use the military to force an election "rerun" - saying "it's not unprecedented".

Speaking on the conservative Newsmax TV network, Flynn outlined the next steps available to Trump now that the Electoral College has officially confirmed President-elect Joe Biden the winner of the US election.

"There is no way in the world we are going to be able to move forward as a nation. [Trump] could immediately, on his order, seize every single one of these [voting] machines," Flynn said in apparent reference to the conspiracy theory that voting software flipped Trump votes for Biden.

"Within the swing states, if he wanted to, he could take military capabilities, and he could place those in states and basically rerun an election in each of those states.

Read more: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-election-general-michael-flynn-says-donald-trump-could-declare-martial-law-in-swing-states/HLXSYSJB5P6IZXN3NHHGVRQDAU/

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US election: General Michael Flynn says Donald Trump could declare martial law in swing states (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2020 OP
Traitors don't get to hold our democracy hostage. Lock him up. (Nt) FreepFryer Dec 2020 #1
Lock THEM up. colorado_ufo Dec 2020 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2020 #3
"it's not unprecedented" rpannier Dec 2020 #4
Me too! BlueMTexpat Dec 2020 #5
It's not unprecedented that the nation had traitors in its midst SoFlaBro Dec 2020 #6
He's Right. There Was The Case COL Mustard Dec 2020 #16
he's speaking of the "precedent" set llashram Dec 2020 #27
The asshole party strikes again. mdbl Dec 2020 #7
If the asshole keeps crap like this up, I won't be surprised if he will be involved in additional still_one Dec 2020 #8
Well, he IS speaking out of his ass ... Auggie Dec 2020 #25
"Not unprecedented"? WTF is this Trump nutter talking about? WePurrsevere Dec 2020 #9
I think he's talking about that one time where the election re-do happened in Imagination Land ck4829 Dec 2020 #12
Also...the Electoral College is where the actual election occurs. NYC Liberal Dec 2020 #21
Yep. Aussie105 Dec 2020 #10
We'll see how much he wants to talk when he goes before judges, duforsure Dec 2020 #11
is Flynn tripping on bad acid? beachbumbob Dec 2020 #13
First order of buinsess for the new DOJ: Arrest Michael Flynn Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2020 #14
So, In The Name Of "Freedom" COL Mustard Dec 2020 #15
Only time I can recall anything close to that was cstanleytech Dec 2020 #17
What to do next? liberalgunwilltravel Dec 2020 #18
And Obama didn't do the same because ....?? /nt bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #19
Wiki background BunnyMcGee Dec 2020 #20
I doubt the pentagon has stopped laughing... Maxheader Dec 2020 #22
trump newdayneeded Dec 2020 #23
The people who actually run the military have already spoken localroger Dec 2020 #24
the nazi's are llashram Dec 2020 #26
It's frightening that this man was ever a general in our military. Lonestarblue Dec 2020 #28
Far too late. The EC has spoken, and MineralMan Dec 2020 #29
Gen Milley allready addressed this Crataegus Dec 2020 #30
Yep, dware Dec 2020 #33
Yep, definitely a traitor. n/t Cognitive_Resonance Dec 2020 #31
I wish I could find a complete Constitution on the internet. marie999 Dec 2020 #32
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Dec 2020 #34

FreepFryer

(7,086 posts)
1. Traitors don't get to hold our democracy hostage. Lock him up. (Nt)
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 06:19 AM
Dec 2020

colorado_ufo

(6,252 posts)
2. Lock THEM up.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 06:25 AM
Dec 2020

Response to FreepFryer (Reply #1)

rpannier

(24,924 posts)
4. "it's not unprecedented"
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 06:40 AM
Dec 2020

I missed the president who declared martial law and forced a rerun

BlueMTexpat

(15,690 posts)
5. Me too!
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 06:42 AM
Dec 2020

SoFlaBro

(3,790 posts)
6. It's not unprecedented that the nation had traitors in its midst
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 06:53 AM
Dec 2020

And needed a thorough clensing.

COL Mustard

(8,218 posts)
16. He's Right. There Was The Case
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:37 AM
Dec 2020

Of old what's his name, back in the you remember whens. You know, that guy...no, maybe I'm thinking of the other guy.

Flynn long ago passed his sell-by date.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
27. he's speaking of the "precedent" set
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:56 AM
Dec 2020

by many fascist nations down through history. My 'favourites', Nazi Germany and because the clown stinking up the WH with his grifting, scheming family greatly reminds me of that Hitler sycophant buffoon Benito Moosalini, Italy 1933-45.

mdbl

(8,650 posts)
7. The asshole party strikes again.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:00 AM
Dec 2020

Let your brains fall out now while you can still get pardoned Flynn. I have nothing nice to say about these people anymore. Also let's revoke his pardon later and throw him in jail. That's also not unprecedented right?

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
8. If the asshole keeps crap like this up, I won't be surprised if he will be involved in additional
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:15 AM
Dec 2020

illegal activities, where he won't have anyone to pardon him


Auggie

(33,149 posts)
25. Well, he IS speaking out of his ass ...
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:42 AM
Dec 2020

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
9. "Not unprecedented"? WTF is this Trump nutter talking about?
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:19 AM
Dec 2020

Perhaps in some other country, like Russia, but never in US history that I can recall and I believe that doing a stunt like this over the election would violate the Constitution and states rights.

ck4829

(37,761 posts)
12. I think he's talking about that one time where the election re-do happened in Imagination Land
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:31 AM
Dec 2020

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
21. Also...the Electoral College is where the actual election occurs.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:55 AM
Dec 2020

They’ve voted. There’s no undoing that.

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
10. Yep.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:20 AM
Dec 2020

Declare martial law, declare the election null and void, and do it again until you get the answer you want.
(But if you already know the election result you want, why have an election at all?)

Of course, you have just destroyed Democracy if you do that.

But we are all meant to sit around the campfire roasting chestnuts, and talk about the future and how we will embrace and forgive our enemies, right?

NUTS!

I'm hoping someone in the Biden camp has a list. With DWL (Deal With Later) next to a lot of the names.
Trump at the top, Flynn a close second.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
11. We'll see how much he wants to talk when he goes before judges,
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:22 AM
Dec 2020

And he makes his choices to lie again and face prison, or be truthful. I hope the courts allow him to be televised at his sentencing hearings. I'll be watching, He needs to be in prison for being a corrupt criminal.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
13. is Flynn tripping on bad acid?
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:04 AM
Dec 2020

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
14. First order of buinsess for the new DOJ: Arrest Michael Flynn
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:08 AM
Dec 2020

on Jan 21.

COL Mustard

(8,218 posts)
15. So, In The Name Of "Freedom"
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:33 AM
Dec 2020

Flynn wants to impose tyranny. Makes perfect sense.

How did this clown ever get to be a 3-star general? I've known a lot of 3-stars and he's by far the dumbest of them all. Hard to believe he was in Military Intelligence....(insert joke here)....

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
17. Only time I can recall anything close to that was
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:38 AM
Dec 2020

after the Civil War but it had zero to do with forcing a new election to get the results you wanted in order to win.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,212 posts)
18. What to do next?
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:42 AM
Dec 2020

When Trump is gone, recall Flynn to active duty and make him face court martial for sedition. If found guilty, strip him of his rank and pension and send him to Leavenworth for 20 years. He can pin up his Trump pardon on the wall of his cell in solitary confinement.

bucolic_frolic

(55,136 posts)
19. And Obama didn't do the same because ....?? /nt
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:43 AM
Dec 2020

BunnyMcGee

(483 posts)
20. Wiki background
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 08:48 AM
Dec 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Flynn

snip

Retirement from the military
On April 30, 2014, Flynn announced his retirement effective later that year, about a year earlier than he had been scheduled to leave his position. He was reportedly effectively forced out of the DIA after clashing with superiors over his allegedly chaotic management style and vision for the agency.[51][52][53][54] In a private e-mail that was leaked online, Colin Powell said he had heard in the DIA (apparently from later DIA director Vincent R. Stewart) that Flynn was fired because he was "abusive with staff, didn't listen, worked against policy, bad management, etc."[53] According to The New York Times, Flynn exhibited a loose relationship with the truth, leading his subordinates to refer to Flynn's repeated dubious assertions as "Flynn facts".[55]

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Maxheader

(4,419 posts)
22. I doubt the pentagon has stopped laughing...
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:04 AM
Dec 2020


and I doubt little more than a handful of extremists will stand up to a blackhawk with a minigun.

As americu needs against those threatening our constitution and peoples lives..
 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
23. trump
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:11 AM
Dec 2020

These are trumps words spoken right into Flynn's ear. This is a trial balloon!

localroger

(3,782 posts)
24. The people who actually run the military have already spoken
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:42 AM
Dec 2020

They have said they will not interfere with the civilian electoral process, period. There is no way they would go along with this daffy idea. Flynn is saying this for an audience of one.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
26. the nazi's are
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 09:50 AM
Dec 2020

trying to march right up to the doorsteps of 1600 to keep their fuhrer 2.0 in our house. Flynn as a retired officer of our military is one seditious traitorous bastard. Can't he be brought up on charges or something? I coud go to dr. google to se but those explantions are sometimes suspect. Jail him or something?

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
28. It's frightening that this man was ever a general in our military.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:12 AM
Dec 2020

And the people Trump recently put in charge of the Pentagon are just as crazy. How does the military not weed out these irrational nuts before they ever reach a high rank? No one like Flynn should ever be in charge of troops or part of our national security.

MineralMan

(151,268 posts)
29. Far too late. The EC has spoken, and
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:16 AM
Dec 2020

the orderly transition of power is underway. This idea was dead before it began.

Crataegus

(64 posts)
30. Gen Milley allready addressed this
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:30 AM
Dec 2020

Gen Milley addressed this issue on Veterans Day.

dware

(18,060 posts)
33. Yep,
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:40 AM
Dec 2020

I can just imagine the JCoS, the Officer's Corp, the NCO's are laughing their asses off saying, yeah, right, as if we're going to do that.

Cognitive_Resonance

(1,564 posts)
31. Yep, definitely a traitor. n/t
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:36 AM
Dec 2020
 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
32. I wish I could find a complete Constitution on the internet.
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:36 AM
Dec 2020

I have found plenty of incomplete ones, but I can't find the one that has the part where the president can declare martial law and make states redo their elections for president.

Omaha Steve

(109,228 posts)
34. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Fri Dec 18, 2020, 10:53 AM
Dec 2020

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