West Point accuses more than 70 cadets of cheating in worst academic scandal in nearly 45 years
Source: USA Today
Fifty-eight cadets admitted cheating on the exam, which was administered remotely because of the COVID-19 pandemic. Most of them have been enrolled in a rehabilitation program and will be on probation for the remainder of their time at the academy. Others resigned, and some face hearings that could result in their expulsion.
The scandal strikes at the heart of the academy's reputation for rectitude, espoused by its own moral code, which is literally etched in stone:
A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.
Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/21/west-point-catches-70-cadets-worst-cheating-scandal-50-years/5856130002/
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)but then again look at Pompeo
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Cattledog
(5,919 posts)Big red flag!
Paladin
(28,276 posts)Cause and effect. Everything he touches or gets in close proximity to, turns to shit. That's not an excuse for those crooked cadets, just a likely factor.
usaf-vet
(6,215 posts)Hopefully, the honor code at the academy is strong enough to do the right thing and expel each and every one.
They were supposed to become the leaders of young troops under their command.
They have allowed themselves to become corrupted by the most dishonorable faux C.I.C. in the nation's history.
usaf-vet
(6,215 posts)How about we change it slightly?
A congress member will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)sweetloukillbot
(11,087 posts)Or are all military white supremacists?
rainin
(3,011 posts)making it difficult for minority cadets. West Point appears to be making a genuine effort to raise awareness and encourage cadets to call out racism when they see it. The leaders at WP do care.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,406 posts)Interesting number.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)Think "thinner tRump".
dsc
(52,168 posts)COL Mustard
(5,933 posts)At least one expelled cadet joint our ROTC program in the late 70s, and if I recall correctly, he got his commission and had a successful Army career.
It wasn't something the rest of us asked him about.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)I wrote 'setting an example'.
Stuff takes time.
This West Point cheat didn't happen in 2017, the year tRump was inaugurated. It takes time for attitudes to percolate and permeate a culture, in this case the militaristic culture (that White Supremacists are trying to infiltrate).
Nixon with his law breaking and his "moral majority" / "law and order" talk and Southern Strategy set a tone that certain kinds of cadets would pick up on. So it is with Fat Nixon. It just takes a bit of time.
Marcuse
(7,522 posts)bluedigger
(17,087 posts)rainin
(3,011 posts)Obviously, WP cadets are held to a very high standard. Occasionally, someone messes up and it becomes a nationwide scandal, but they will learn from this and take these lessons into their units after graduation.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)I've seen little disadvantage in today's society for the talented and integrity challenged. Their future lies elsewhere, and good luck to them.
rainin
(3,011 posts)People who have no personal experience with WP love to judge. I agree it's an honor to attend WP. I'm proud that one of mine is there there right now serving as one of its fine leaders. Having served on the honor board, mine would tell you that the academy is the perfect place for young people to learn from mistakes. They're given left and right limits, but, occasionally, younger cadets cross the line. This becomes a learning opportunity for them. Notice, no upper class men were involved. That's because the older cadets have matured. If these cadets were firsties, they'd be immediately separated.
GentryDixon
(2,963 posts)tRUmp. He has done so much damage to this country. 😟
rainin
(3,011 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 22, 2020, 03:49 AM - Edit history (1)
Lying about the cheating has already led to at least one separation.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Pompeo is a liar and a crook, West Point grad, and human garbage.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)other than their parents, is an avid liar, cheater, and grifter/ thief. shit rolls downhill.
Blue_playwright
(1,568 posts)... I taught online for ten years and have my degree in Instructional Design and online learning. All online exams are open book tests. Period.
The faculty has to either accept that and deal with it or they need to restructure the exam in a way that locks it down more and discourages it. The problem with that is it can punish the honest kids who just want to take their time or backtrack to previous questions. Now kids have Chegg and they have group chats where they share answers, too. Hell, thats not new though, we had a test file in the basement of my sorority back in the 90s!
My Dean told me that though when I took on my first online course. All online exams are open book and I just had to rethink how I taught and judged all the student outcomes.
usaf-vet
(6,215 posts)Here is an example (sorry, I can't remember the exact question), but you'll get the point .....
Question: What does Jefferson say about the relationship between temperature, gases, and altitude?
Everyone failed the question, and the next day it was the question everyone wanted to know.
The professor said the answer is on page 247. Everyone opened the book to 247. Skimmed and or read the pagestill no Jefferson.
Finally, the professor said. Look at the graph at the bottom of the page. There plain as day was the graph and the CITATION. By Jefferson,1954
With a big smile on his face, the professor said, "remember that the next time you vote to take an open book exam, everything is legal."
Lesson learned!
DENVERPOPS
(8,847 posts)Is there any other University or College that allows you to stay enrolled if you get caught cheating? Especially a large group of cheating kids?
I always thought you would be suspended and have a tough time getting into any other school.............
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)with a deal between the professor and student. College-age students make mistakes in judgement, they don't think things through, but bottom line we want them to succeed.
cstanleytech
(26,326 posts)Republican party and run for office.
TeamPooka
(24,261 posts)rainin
(3,011 posts)the leadership at WP knows how to develop leaders of character. They'll be given consequences and they'll learn from their mistakes. Notice none of these cadets were firsties (seniors). By the time the cadets have been there 4 years, they're ready to be exemplary officers.