Ohio mayor wants officer fired for not turning on camera during fatal police shooting

[AmyStrange]

Source: NBC News via MSN

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Police in Columbus, Ohio, fatally shot an unarmed Black man early Tuesday but did not have their body cameras turned on during the incident, leading the mayor to call for the removal of the officer who opened fire.
Mayor Andrew Ginther said he was greatly disturbed by the fact that the cameras were not recording the incident and called it "unacceptable" on the part of the officers involved.

"So let me be clear, if you're not going to turn on your body-worn camera, you cannot serve and protect the people of Columbus," Ginther said. "I have asked Chief Quinlan to remove the officer involved of duty and turn in his badge and gun."

The shooting happened in the 1000 block of Oberlin Drive and occurred more than two weeks after law enforcement fatally shot 23-year-old Black man Casey Goodson as he entered his grandmother's home. The investigation into his death, which drew national headlines, is ongoing.

Two officers in separate cars responded to a disturbance call about a running vehicle on Tuesday at around 1:30 a.m., where they found the 47-year-old man in the garage.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio-mayor-wants-officer-fired-for-not-turning-on-camera-during-fatal-police-shooting/ar-BB1c9r2n?ocid=msedgntp

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Not just fired, but prosecuted too.

To me, not turning the camera on is the same as admitting that they knew something bad was gonna happen.

[Stuart G]

1. Like Trump, 2 officers thought they could, "get away with it.",and they were "sure of it!"

No consequences of any kind they thought..I like these words ....."Not just fired, but prosecuted too"

[AmyStrange]

3. Hopefully they get theirs...

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and Trump gets his too.
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[onetexan]

13. exactly. The Fraternal Order of Police have for too long been backing members who've themselves

committed acts of bigotry & violence against the public. The Con's admin has contributed to the rise of hate crimes committed by the police. It's time a tough AG/DoJ investigate & put an end to these crimes once & for all, and FIRE and prosecute the perpetrators of these crimes.

[Deuxcents]

2. Taxpayers paid for these cameras

Turn them on. Someone explain to them why “defund the police” needs explanation

[AmyStrange]

4. You can't wrap a complicated thing like that around those pea brains...

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Gawd! I'm surprised they can even remember the trumpet's name, never mind how to spell it.
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[AmyStrange]

5. Defund killer cops

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or Defund Cops that kill...

Just throwing it out there.
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[TigressDem]

6. So what about a 47 yr old Dude running his car in garage prompted cops to shoot someone else?

"Ah, we're in the neighborhood, might as well shoot someone coming home from Subway."

What are cops smoking these days?

[AmyStrange]

7. BAT-SHIT CRAZY people don't need to smoke anything to be BAT-SHIT CRAZY

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Look at the king of BAT-SHIT CRAZY himself?

Perfect example.
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[Ohiogal]

19. Some nosy bigot

Saw a running car in his neighbor’s garage and called in a nuisance call. Of course since the man they encountered was black, the police “knew“ he was up to no good.

No weapon recovered from the scene. Were the police feeling threatened by a cell phone? Maybe this guy was done visiting whoever he was visiting and just warming up his car to go home?

[TigressDem]

30. Maybe so, but they already dealt with the first issue, then they shot this guy just because?

Two officers in separate cars responded to a disturbance call about a running vehicle on Tuesday at around 1:30 a.m., where they found the 47-year-old man in the garage.


The man they shot was a 23 year old just in the neighborhood coming home with Subway in one hand and his keys in the other.

[Ohiogal]

31. They were two separate incidents.

Andre Hill, the 47-year old black man in the garage, was shot last Tuesday by a Columbus police officer answering a disturbance call, who had a history of complaints in his file, including use of excessive force.

Casey Goodman, the 23-year old coming home with Subway sandwiches, was shot on Dec. 4. by a Franklin County sheriff’s deputy.

Both men were unarmed and apparently just going about their daily lives.

I’d say that law enforcement in that area has a very big problem with black people and this egregious and senseless killing has to stop. What are the mayor and the police chief and county officials going to do about it? Prosecuting and punishing these Wild West cops would be just a start.

[TigressDem]

32. Ah. WORSE than original because it's two, but now it makes more sense. nt

[Bayard]

8. If trump hears about it

I'm sure he'll pardon the cops if they're prosecuted.

[mwb970]

9. This happened about two blocks from my house.

[AmyStrange]

10. Really! Did you know the guy?

[mwb970]

18. No, I have never actually been on that street.

But I often pass it on my way to other places.

At the time of the incident I was watching "CSI:Miami" on Hulu, having awakened in the middle of the night. I didn't see or hear a thing.

[quakerboy]

11. If you have a body cam

and a gun, and you turn the body cam off and use the gun... that should be taken as an admission of guilt.

If Uber Drivers can figure out that they need cameras running all the time to protect themselves.. then people given the ability and right to shoot people dead can do the same. Or they can be made liable in both criminal and civil court.

[AmyStrange]

12. Well said, and...

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thank you.
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[PatSeg]

20. It is also an admission

of premeditated guilt. They turned off their cameras BEFORE the one cop shot the man, as if they knew what they were going to do. It took a conscious effort to turn off the cameras. They all should be held accountable.

[LisaL]

35. The cameras were not turned on.

Nobody claims they turned the cameras off.

[KS Toronado]

29. We should fund the police with mandatory body cameras.....

And if they turn the body cam off and use the gun... that should be taken as an admission of guilt.
Body cams to remain ON their entire shift. Be a lot fewer people killed.

[oasis]

16. Will the Fraternal Order of Police step in to save the day?

No Killer Cops Left Behind.

[marble falls]

17. The magic cop words are: "I thought I saw a gun, I was in fear for my life." Over and over.

"I felt it was me or him."

[PatSeg]

21. And..........

"So the first thing I did was turn off my body camera!"

[marble falls]

22. The whining noise just kept boring deeper ... deeper ... deeper into my brain. I had to, I tells ya!

[marble falls]

24. Or: "He was black! You know how racist those people are!" Wasn't there a cop defense ...

... a long while back, that was basically: "I am pathologically afraid of black Americans and that's why I shot him."

[PatSeg]

25. Or: "He was black and we all know how

much they hate cops! It was self-defense!"

I don't remember that one about being pathologically afraid of black people, but I think that is what a lot of cops are thinking and it makes a good excuse for being excessively violent.

[bluestarone]

26. Yea wonder if camera was on, and then

He shut it off BEFORE shooting? THAT in itself would prove guilt in my eyes.

[PatSeg]

27. Yes, it would imply intent

If you are a cop in a potentially compromising situation, I'd think you would double check to be sure your camera is on, not turn it off.

[LisaL]

36. I believe about 10 seconds passed between him seeing the victim and shooting the victim.

He didn't turn off the camera, he didn't have it on. He turned it on after the shooting, and thus the shooting itself ended up being recorded, although without sound.

[Bettie]

23. Good. That should be the rule

in shootings. If your camera was off, absent an actual malfunction, you are gone.

I'm glad someone finally had the guts to say this.

[lonely bird]

28. Time for some Lubyanka justice for cops like these.

[George II]

34. Tip: There's something on your keyboard called "enter". Every time you type period ( "." ) .....

....you should use it, and use it again.

Paragraphs are your friend.

Thanks!!

[NurseJackie]

37. The eggnog was spiked, no doubt.

[lapucelle]

39. Sometimes a snack helps.

[melm00se]

38. One comment

I use a body mounted (actually it is mounted on my hat) and I hit the button to record and about one of out of 5 times or so, the camera doesn't start recording.

having said that, there should be a way to tie the camera activation to the opening of the car door like the key fob door unlocking/car starting so that when the officer leaves the car it turns on and then turns off a random period of time after re-entering the car.

Having them run all day and all the time creates its own issue, unless you want to record them using the bathroom (which anyone would consider an invasion of privacy) or something similar.

[Cinnamonspice]

40. Too many cops are turning off their body cameras.

This would not be acceptable in any other occupation in which they wish to keep track of your activities. The cop should be fired or at least suspended without pay.