Unemployment Aid Set to Lapse Saturday as Trump's Plans for Relief Bill Remain Unclear
Source: New York Times
By Alan Rappeport
WASHINGTON — Expanded unemployment benefits were set to lapse for millions of struggling Americans on Saturday, a day after President Trump expressed more criticism of a $900 billion pandemic relief bill that was awaiting his signature and would extend them. The sprawling economic relief package that Congress passed with overwhelming bipartisan support would extend the amount of time that people can collect unemployment benefits until March and revive supplemental unemployment benefits for millions of Americans at $300 a week on top of the usual state benefit.
If Mr. Trump signs the bill on Saturday, states will still need time to reprogram their computer systems to account for the new law, according to Michele Evermore of the National Employment Law Project, but unemployed workers would still be able to claim the benefits.
Further delays could prove more costly. States cannot pay out benefits for weeks that begin before the bill is signed, meaning that if the president does not sign the bill by Saturday, benefits will not restart until the first week of January. But they will still end in mid-March, effectively trimming the extension to 10 weeks from 11.
Mr. Trump blindsided lawmakers on Tuesday when he hinted he may veto the measure, which he decided at the last minute was unsatisfactory. The most pressing issue prompted by the president’s delay was the fate of unemployment benefits. At least a temporary lapse in those benefits is now inevitable. The country is also facing a looming government shutdown on Tuesday and the expiration of a moratorium on evictions at the end of the year because of the president’s refusal to sign the bill.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/25/us/politics/unemployment-pandemic-aid-trump.html
Yep, Don-Boy really cares about the "Little Guy." The disgusting part is that way too many "Little Guys" will continue to believe Trump is working hard on their behalf!
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ananda
(35,145 posts)and his signature was printed on the golf club.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)He probably loses every ball he hits and just drops a new one where he wanted the ball to go (or he plays someone elses ball).
You would never find it again.
ananda
(35,145 posts)Where is it now?
gab13by13
(32,323 posts)opined he might do. Let the bill sit, do nothing. If he does nothing, after 10 days, not counting Sunday, the old Congress is no more, the bill gets a pocket veto and everything, all negotiations have to begin again from scratch. Now that would be evil.
FailureToCommunicate
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IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,307 posts)... a very small amount of the overall bill, not seeing past the ends of their noses that these foreign aid packages are there to prevent us from having to pay, "clean up costs", of billions if the problems are not nipped in the bud. I have explained that to a few that I know that, "never paid any attention to history or government classes", in high school. Then I get, "Oh, I see...".
Anyway, from the ones I personally know and their posts on FB, if it doesn't directly help them with getting more beer, then they are against it.
PS: I am in eastern South Dakota, you know, where the, "liberals", of the state live, so I see a great cross section ranging from full up Deplorables to front like educators.
bucolic_frolic
(55,141 posts)He has no plans. Ever. He waits for direction from his ideologues.
lonely bird
(2,941 posts)Steve Benen’s book Imposters: How Republicans Quit Governing and Seized American Politics lays out the thesis that Republicans are a post-policy party. They not only cannot govern, they do not want to govern. They have no interest in anything other than holding the levers of power. Trump is simply symptomatic. The party and Trump are walking down the path of destruction together. Unfortunately, they are dragging the country with them.
yaesu
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so much for twitter blocking misleading info when they can't even block themselves. Anyway, I think tRump will just sit on it, let it die forcing the next congress to take it up.
turbinetree
(27,551 posts)show the republicans hypocrisy this coming Monday / Tuesday, either your for it or your against it.............
hedda_foil
(16,985 posts)Trump has NOT vetoed the bill. He issued a veto THREAT.
As Joe would say, here's the deal. If a bill passes both houses of Congress with 2/3 majorities (or more) most presidents realize that a veto would not hold and sign it or wait ten days and just let it become law without signing it or -- if Congress is adjourned and will stay that way for ten more days, to hold onto the bill and let it die by "pocket veto." The thing is that if a bill is vetoed, it must go back to the SAME Congress for an override vote. Generally, the Congress will, in fact, vote to override the veto and the bill becomes law then. Right now, there are three huge problems with these "normal" solutions.
1. Trump is far from a normal president. His regular procedure under these circumstances would be to veto the bill and try to strongarm the Republicans in Congress to prevent an override vote. (He wouldn't be the first to try this, but it's very, very unusual for it to work. )
2. And most important here, this Congress adjourns forever when the next Congress is sworn in on January 3. Trump could formally veto the bill and leave a few days for it to be overridden before then, but that would ruin all his fun. If he just holds onto it until the new Congress comes in, the bill is dead, dead, dead, forever dead. It can't be overridden by the new Congress. They have to start all over again and negotiate a NEW bill.
3. Oh -- and it's not just a Covid relief bill. It's the whole damn bill to fund the entire government for the current[ fiscal year. So if the idiot doesn't sign it by Monday, the government shuts down.
And if "3" happens, the only solution Congress could provide (because if he holds onto the bill, it wouldn't be technically vetoed before this Congress adjourns forever) is to extend funding at least until the new Congress takes over, when they could do the same. Oh -- but the current president has to sign that too.
More 2020 fun and games.
maddogesq
(1,248 posts)there are those like me who are waiting for original state or federal PUA payments because of understaffed unemployment agencies with a backlog of "benefit reviews."
So now we will have a lapse go into effect, so even if the veto is overridden, we have a new batch of claims for extensions, adding to the workload.
Here in 'da mitten, we have 200 managers doing reviews with a backlog at last count numbering over 75K, plus a load of fraudulent claims that have to be weeded out.
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE CLUSTER FUCK.
Polybius
(21,901 posts)Will I have to re-apply, or will I get the week(s) missed retroactively by doing nothing?
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)once the states implement the programs. I w2as told from a number of sources, state unemployment and Merkley's office.
maddogesq
(1,248 posts)re-programmed which won't happen overnight. Not letting the lapse happen in the first place would have saved states a lot of grief, time, money and potential for coding screw-ups.
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)regardless of being out of funds. The rest being kicked off tomorrow will need to do the same. Tomorrow I will fill out my weekly for the first time having exhausted the 13 and see if it will go thru. Lots of unnecessary anxiety, always waiting to see what will happen with something as important as $ to live on.