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Judi Lynn

(160,218 posts)
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 12:23 AM Dec 2020

Wisconsin hospital says employee intentionally discarded coronavirus vaccine vials

Source: The Hill


BY JOSEPH CHOI - 12/30/20 10:00 PM EST

The Wisconsin medical center where 57 vials of the Moderna coronavirus vaccine were discarded earlier this week said in a statement Wednesday that the employee who removed the vaccines from the freezer did so “intentionally” and was no longer employed by the hospital.

On Monday, hospital officials said that around 50 vials of the vaccine had to be thrown away after an employee at Advocate Aurora Health medical center in Grafton, Wis., “inadvertently” removed them from the pharmacy refrigerator, where the vaccines are required to be housed at low temperatures.

At the time, the incident was attributed to “human error,” but in a statement Wednesday, the medical center said the vials had been removed intentionally. According to the statement, the 57 vials that had been discarded overnight had led to 500 doses of the vaccine being thrown out.

“We immediately launched an internal review and were led to believe this was caused by inadvertent human error. The individual in question today acknowledged that they intentionally removed the vaccine from refrigeration,” the hospital said in the statement Wednesday.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/532180-wisconsin-hospital-says-employee-intentionally-discarded-coronavirus

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Wisconsin hospital says employee intentionally discarded coronavirus vaccine vials (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2020 OP
UGH! sakabatou Dec 2020 #1
WTF is wrong with some people? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #2
Maybe doing his part to hasten the end times. (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2020 #12
It probably has to do with some priests and ministers claiming - aborted baby cells are in vaccine womanofthehills Dec 2020 #14
The Pope also says it isn't true Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2020 #20
The Pope is wrong. He needs to take up ... JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2020 #22
The article doesn't say LeftInTX Dec 2020 #21
They should be charges with vandalism, damage, destruction of private property. magicarpet Dec 2020 #3
i don't understand why someone who is an antivaxxer would want to work in healthcare onetexan Dec 2020 #40
They need to check his devices to see what his contacts are. CaptYossarian Dec 2020 #41
This act was criminal intent gohuskies Dec 2020 #4
I think it said 500 doses (NT) HuskyOffset Dec 2020 #9
Each vial of Moderna vaccine has 10 doses. LisaL Dec 2020 #16
Definitely Rebl2 Dec 2020 #17
Homicide. we can do it Dec 2020 #28
Not even gonna guess because I already know. IsItJustMe Dec 2020 #5
Those vials should have been placed under severely restricted access. WTF????? 58Sunliner Dec 2020 #6
Gee, I wonder who the perp supported for president? nt Laffy Kat Dec 2020 #7
Story says Wisconsin has had 15,000 cases and 5,000 deaths? Orange Buffoon Dec 2020 #8
Wiki says 477,292 cases, 21,207 hospitalized, 4,818 deaths. Angleae Dec 2020 #10
I'd guess some anti-vaxxer wants to become a hero to the cause DBoon Dec 2020 #11
Prison time, in solitary. truthisfreedom Dec 2020 #13
At least he didn't put the inert stuff back in the freezer. Marcuse Dec 2020 #15
Lock him/her up! Nt raccoon Dec 2020 #18
From this report--it looks to be a careless mistake by the employee. I have to say, I have riversedge Dec 2020 #19
They are saying it is intentional and the employee was terminated LeftInTX Dec 2020 #23
Your story is two days old. The update is posted in the OP Beaverhausen Dec 2020 #43
i find this hard to believe,no one in the medical community would intentionally destroy the vaccines Mr. Sparkle Dec 2020 #24
Members of the medical community have been convicted of murdering patients in their care Yeehah Dec 2020 #27
Do you think the mega's really hate covid vaccines that much? Mr. Sparkle Dec 2020 #31
Antivax terrorism? n/t area51 Dec 2020 #25
This is a felony under Wisconsin law Yeehah Dec 2020 #26
Oh come on- James48 Dec 2020 #29
Shhhh, don't try to derail the Outrage Express. Jedi Guy Dec 2020 #30
Read the freaking article. The employee first claimed that he or she just made a mistake, but LisaL Dec 2020 #32
Kindly point out in the article where it details the person's motive. Jedi Guy Dec 2020 #36
What does it have to do with the price of tea in China? LisaL Dec 2020 #38
No, LisaL Dec 2020 #33
Sure atreides1 Dec 2020 #37
Employee admitted it was done intentionally. LisaL Dec 2020 #39
Enjoy your stay. (nt) Paladin Dec 2020 #45
Now a criminal case. deminks Dec 2020 #34
I would think 500+ people would have a civil case too. BrightKnight Dec 2020 #44
Now they are going to have guards near these vaccines, whoever did this Lock there ass up turbinetree Dec 2020 #35
It's one thing when antivaxxers choose not to inoculate themselves, Heartstrings Dec 2020 #42
Off you go to a covid infested jail cell BlueIdaho Dec 2020 #46

womanofthehills

(8,584 posts)
14. It probably has to do with some priests and ministers claiming - aborted baby cells are in vaccine
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 02:02 AM
Dec 2020

Pfizer and Moderna say not true.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,283 posts)
22. The Pope is wrong. He needs to take up ...
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 09:43 AM
Dec 2020

... snake-handling, speaking in tongues, shooting at women's clinics. Then he'll see the truth about these infernal vaccines.



The world would be a better place if more people refuse the vaccine, especially those people who are ahead of me in the vaccine line.

magicarpet

(13,941 posts)
3. They should be charges with vandalism, damage, destruction of private property.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 12:27 AM
Dec 2020

What is this a right winger nut job no vaxer ?

onetexan

(12,994 posts)
40. i don't understand why someone who is an antivaxxer would want to work in healthcare
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 12:42 PM
Dec 2020

in the first place. Clearly this person is nuts & needs to be prosecuted.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
41. They need to check his devices to see what his contacts are.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 12:45 PM
Dec 2020

I'd like to know what the play is on the other side.

gohuskies

(1,153 posts)
4. This act was criminal intent
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 12:28 AM
Dec 2020

The ex employee needs to be charged with theft and destruction of property. Jail time and monetary restitution are the only just actions in this case. I don’t know how many vaccine doses 57 vials provides but that act is unconscionable selfish and deadly.

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
5. Not even gonna guess because I already know.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 12:28 AM
Dec 2020

There should be a law. But even though there are laws, they are not being enforced anyway.

Orange Buffoon

(188 posts)
8. Story says Wisconsin has had 15,000 cases and 5,000 deaths?
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 01:07 AM
Dec 2020

WTF?! 33 percent fatality rate? That can't be right, even for Wisconsin!

riversedge

(69,727 posts)
19. From this report--it looks to be a careless mistake by the employee. I have to say, I have
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 08:22 AM
Dec 2020

left items out of the freezer which I had taken out to dig for items at the back.
Careless on my part but the spoiled item was not valuable.
I feel bad for this employee-=yes, it was careless but still the same, it was a mistake.





Dozens of vials of coronavirus vaccine thrown out due to 'human error' at Wisconsin clinic


https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/531869-dozens-of-vials-of-coronavirus-vaccine-thrown-out-due-to-human-error-at
By Joseph Choi - 12/28/20 04:36 PM EST


Fifty vials of the Moderna coronavirus vaccine had to be thrown out in Wisconsin this past weekend due to “human error.”

TMJ4 Milwaukee, a local NBC-affiliate station, reported that the incident occurred at an Advocate Aurora Health medical center in Grafton, Wis., when an employee took the vials out of a storage freezer to remove another item. The employee then mistakenly failed to return the vials to the freezer.


"We learned that about 50 vials of Moderna vaccine were inadvertently removed from a pharmacy refrigerator overnight," an Advocate Aurora spokesperson told TMJ4. "While some of the vaccine was administered to team members on Dec. 26 within the approved 12-hour post-refrigeration window, unfortunately, most of it had to be discarded due to the temperature storage requirements necessary to maintain its viability."

The spokesperson added, "We are clearly disappointed and regret this happened.”.......................

LeftInTX

(24,560 posts)
23. They are saying it is intentional and the employee was terminated
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 09:46 AM
Dec 2020

We don't know what this employee did...nurse, stocker, housekeeper, medical assistant??? How long had they worked there.
Why did they intentionally discard the vials...
When nurses make mistakes, they sometimes do something intentional to "cover the mistake"..Did this person throw the vials away to cover the mistakes...(but usually it would be one vial..Every nurse works with narcotics that are counted each shift) Vials get contaminated easily and yeah, you gotta throw the rest of the vial away..but this sounds like they threw a case away.

Was this employee a stocker and was drinking on the job..was this person an anti-vaxxer? Was this person evil? Not enough information..

Mr. Sparkle

(2,915 posts)
24. i find this hard to believe,no one in the medical community would intentionally destroy the vaccines
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 09:46 AM
Dec 2020

i'd bet it was someone having a bad day at work no realizing the consequences of their actions

Yeehah

(4,524 posts)
27. Members of the medical community have been convicted of murdering patients in their care
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 10:26 AM
Dec 2020

So it's not too difficult to imagine a brainwashed trump cultist destroying vaccine.

In fact, it has already been determined this was an intentional act.

Mr. Sparkle

(2,915 posts)
31. Do you think the mega's really hate covid vaccines that much?
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 11:11 AM
Dec 2020

i don't see it myself as most of them think its just a bout of flu!

James48

(4,416 posts)
29. Oh come on-
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 10:41 AM
Dec 2020

You all are reading much more into this than is there.

The lower article says the person took the vaccine vials out to get to something else, and then forgot to put them back in.

I have a 24-year old son still living at home that does that all the time. Takes the milk out and leaves it on the counter, and walks away.

Instead of demanding prison time, how about a little compassion? He lost his job over it, but to me it sounds more like negligence than criminal behavior. Yes, he intentionally took it out. It doesn’t say he intentionally refused to put it back.

There are likely thousands of vials sitting in thousands of cold-storage freezers right now. This is a big mistake, but I don’t think somebody should be in prison for it.

Jedi Guy

(3,171 posts)
30. Shhhh, don't try to derail the Outrage Express.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 10:48 AM
Dec 2020

Some folks are convinced a MAGAt did this deliberately to kill people despite no evidence to that effect. You won't reason them out of that conviction. They didn't use reason to get there in the first place.

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
32. Read the freaking article. The employee first claimed that he or she just made a mistake, but
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 11:11 AM
Dec 2020

eventually admitted he/she did it intentionally.

Jedi Guy

(3,171 posts)
36. Kindly point out in the article where it details the person's motive.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 12:16 PM
Dec 2020

There's nothing in there indicating that the former employee is a Trump supporter. If she's anti-vax, there's an equal possibility that she's on the left of the political spectrum. Asserting one way or the other is jumping to conclusions.

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
38. What does it have to do with the price of tea in China?
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 12:29 PM
Dec 2020

Employee did it intentionally. I presume police investigation will figure out the motive.

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
33. No,
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 11:13 AM
Dec 2020

you are the one who can't figure it out. While employee first claimed his/her actions were simply a human error, eventually employee admitted he/she did it intentionally. The administration first send out a statement that this was a human error, but soon send another statement that this was not a human error but instead was intentionally done.

atreides1

(16,046 posts)
37. Sure
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 12:24 PM
Dec 2020

Maybe if it were just a few vials...I could believe the "I forgot" story...but it was 57 vials...how do you forget 57 vials of a vaccine that requires refrigeration?

He lost his job because he was incompetent, and until there is a thorough investigation we don't know whether he forgot or intentionally left the vaccine out!

Regardless, whether or not it was intentional he should have to pay for those 57 vials!

deminks

(11,006 posts)
34. Now a criminal case.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 11:17 AM
Dec 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/31/covid-vaccines-destroyed-wisconsin-hospital/

posted 4 hours ago.

For some reason, that employee did not want their fellow workers vaccinated. It could be anti-vaxxers, it could be more lizard people believers, it could be GOP party official business for all we know (or all three- they get mixed up sometimes for me). The local police and FBI a and FDA re now involved. Cue the orange jesus offering bail/lawyers for that former employee/assaulter with intent to kill.

turbinetree

(24,632 posts)
35. Now they are going to have guards near these vaccines, whoever did this Lock there ass up
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 11:25 AM
Dec 2020

JFC what is wrong with these people and they work in the health field, they don't believe is science..............just throw things in the garbage can........... do they not understand that they can be charged for a host of crimes..........throw the fucking book at them....................

I guess 348 thousands deaths , 125,000 laying on a bed in a hospital over 18, million infected don't mean a fucking thing to them...........

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
42. It's one thing when antivaxxers choose not to inoculate themselves,
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 01:07 PM
Dec 2020

this one made that choice for more than 500 patients and their families.

People like her are one of the reasons we can’t have nice things in WI.

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