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TexasTowelie

(112,085 posts)
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 02:29 AM Dec 2020

East Texas judge sets deadline for Pence in Gohmert lawsuit

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Source: Longview News-Journal

A judge in Tyler Congressman Louie Gohmert’s lawsuit against Vice President Mike Pence has set a deadline for when Pence should respond to Gohmert and the other plaintiffs’ emergency request.

Gohmert’s lawsuit, which was filed Sunday, states certain parts of the 1887 federal law, Electoral Count Act, are unconstitutional, and the litigation claims election fraud. The lawsuit would be withdrawn if Pence (and Congress) appoints President Donald Trump as president for a second term.

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On Tuesday, plaintiffs in the case requested a shortened time for response and a scheduling order from the judge.

On Wednesday, District Judge Jeremy D. Kernodle, of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Texas in Tyler, set Pence’s counsel’s response due date as Thursday by 5 p.m. He also set Gohmert and the other plaintiffs’ reply due date as Friday by 9 a.m., according to court records.

Read more: https://www.news-journal.com/news/local/east-texas-judge-sets-deadline-for-pence-in-gohmert-lawsuit/article_85e99afa-4afa-11eb-b768-1bad44060250.html

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SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
1. I hope Biden's lawyers are briefing the court, not just Gohmert's and Pence's.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 03:16 AM
Dec 2020

This lawsuit is insane.

Ford_Prefect

(7,876 posts)
2. Bullshit filing should be thrown out without comment as unsustainable.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 03:36 AM
Dec 2020

Only in Texas...where they legislate against thinking skills...and Gravity.

onetexan

(13,035 posts)
4. correction: not only in TX, the stupid is all over the country, even in the blue states
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:13 AM
Dec 2020

mind you Tyrannical Tom Cotton is from AR, Hee Haw Hawley from MO, & little man Marco from FL, just to name a few.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
5. We live in an ocean of stupid.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 06:40 AM
Dec 2020

modrepub

(3,493 posts)
7. Cray-Cray
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 09:09 AM
Dec 2020

What else do you call folks who believe their opponents drink babies blood and run child prostitution rings?

Most folks are equipped with built in BS meters. In science it's called a statistical significance test. A significant portion of our population has had their BS meters short circuited. In stead of listening to arguments and being able to tell when someone is blowing sunshine up their arses, they've been conditioned to evaluate if the person is part or the "educated elite" (scientists), people of color, women or socialist/communist (Democrat) and dismiss anything said by such group.

keithbvadu2

(36,747 posts)
3. So "unconstitutional" is ok if Trump is appointed Prez.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 04:12 AM
Dec 2020

"...would be withdrawn if Pence (and Congress) appoints President Donald Trump as president for a second term"

So "unconstitutional" is ok if Trump is appointed Prez.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
6. How can Pence decide whats Constitutional? Thats what this suit says its about.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 07:51 AM
Dec 2020

So the COURT should decide, not Pence.
Or, you could look at it like blackmail

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
8. What the hell is wrong with that 'judge'? That bogus lawsuit should have been tossed immediately.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 11:23 AM
Dec 2020

Nobody, not even Pence, should have to waste one bit of time responding to such obviously unconstitutional bullshit.

What scares me, at least a little bit, about all of this is what happens in the future if we win a somewhat close election? Will the radical right be able to find a judge to toss the results out of one state and flip the results?

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
13. normally they get both filings before ruling
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:54 PM
Dec 2020

asking for a response is proforma and has nothing to do with merits

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
9. The Time Limits for Briefing Are So Tight that the Court May Not be Fully Briefed
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 11:45 AM
Dec 2020

although it forces Gohmert's attorneys to work over New Years Eve which is nice. I would be a little concerned that poor briefing could result in a bad opinion

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
10. Banana Republicans
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 01:04 PM
Dec 2020

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
11. This has to be the most convoluted piece of litigation in the history of this country
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 01:32 PM
Dec 2020

It's difficult to even understand what the plaintiffs are asking of the judge.

If I understand this correctly, they are asking a federal judge in TEXAS, to rule that the Vice President has the ability to overturn and replace the state elector slate of any state that the Vice President sees fit to.

It seems that if the judge ruled in favor of this, the judge would have to determine
1.) Parts of the 1887 federal law, Electoral Count Act, are unconstitutional
2.) There was election fraud in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin
3.) That the Vice President has the authority to pick and choose who will win the election by determining between
legally appointed elector slates or fake ones

This judge must have issues to accept this case to begin with. How can a federal judge determine all those issues?

What happens if the judge finds for the plaintiffs? Insane I know, but just look at the last four years.

My guess is that it would immediately go before the SC. But what if the SC did not rule on it?

I think the Republicans are kicking the slats out from underneath the bed. If this insane sh!t keeps up and we start getting strange anti democratic rulings from strange judges, this is not going to turn out well.

Mickju

(1,800 posts)
12. My dumbest and least educated relatives live in this district.
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 05:19 PM
Dec 2020

So I have never been surprised that Gohmert keeps being re-elected.

Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
14. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 07:49 PM
Dec 2020

NOT important news of national interest only. It is only a deadline, not a decision.

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