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Sat Jan 2, 2021, 11:29 AM Jan 2021

Jaw-Dropping New CDC Figures Suggest True U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Approaching Half a Million

Source: Mediaite

As the United States goes into the New Year breaking single-day records for coronavirus deaths, data from the Centers for Disease Control suggests the true cumulative U.S. death toll is approaching half a million.

Last week saw two new record daily totals of conformed Covid deaths of over 3,700, and as of Friday, the official U.S. death toll was 347,870. That’s according to the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 Dashboard, which is generally regarded as the official source for confirmed coronavirus figures. But according to the latest available figures from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the true current death toll is likely much greater — and could surpass half a million in a matter of weeks.

CDC tracks the number of deaths reported in excess of the average number of expected deaths based on prior years, and the latest figures show that since the pandemic began, 431,792 more people than expected have died.

The news comes as vaccinations lag far behind what is necessary to end the pandemic — and portends months more of escalating national tragedy. The University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation projects an additional 200,000 U.S. coronavirus deaths by April.

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/news/jaw-dropping-new-cdc-figures-suggest-true-u-s-coronavirus-death-toll-approaching-half-a-million/

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Jaw-Dropping New CDC Figures Suggest True U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Approaching Half a Million (Original Post) Larissa Jan 2021 OP
Here's something from about a week ago on the subject of excess deaths from all causes. progree Jan 2021 #1
That's like .15% of the population. OneCrazyDiamond Jan 2021 #2
Thanks, Trump. Heckuva job! BadgerKid Jan 2021 #3
I believe it. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #4
The Trump/Pence Personal Death Count. keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #5
Daily 9-11s because of Donald Six Words tRump. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #6
Donald "Six Words" tRump? What are the words? Orange Buffoon Jan 2021 #10
Asked about Covid deaths in the spring, he said "I take no responsibility at all". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #12
Or, "Fifteen cases now, probably one next week" Captain Zero Jan 2021 #18
I've always assumed this. pat_k Jan 2021 #7
The excess death count can IMO be partly attributable to indirect deaths nitpicker Jan 2021 #8
Shades of what I was discussing about to happen (again) in London nitpicker Jan 2021 #9
Those are few & counteracting that is lower influenza deaths due to lower infections & higher vax. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #13
Tell that to my aunt's husband nitpicker Jan 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author nitpicker Jan 2021 #15
They figure the number at the end of the year is 470,000 progree Jan 2021 #11
I've been wondering area51 Jan 2021 #16
Put this in perspective turbinetree Jan 2021 #17
Not sure how much stock I'd put in this info DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #19
Unrelated to the Covid deaths, but a corollary FakeNoose Jan 2021 #20
Can't go to Mediaite GETPLANING Jan 2021 #21


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1. Here's something from about a week ago on the subject of excess deaths from all causes.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jan 2021

U.S. deaths in 2020 top 3 million, by far most ever counted, an increase of 15% over last year -- the largest single year percentage increase since 1918. In contrast, in 2019, the mortality rate fell a little bit, and consequently life expectancy rose for the 3rd straight year, to 78.8 years. This year, life expectancy may end up dropping as much as 3 full years. Deaths usually rise by about 20,000 to 50,000 each year due to population aging and growth. This year deaths are on track to be at least 400,000 more than 2019., AP, 12/22/20

Details: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/12/22/us-deaths-in-2020-top-3-million-by-far-most-ever-counted

Captain Zero

(6,654 posts)
18. Or, "Fifteen cases now, probably one next week"
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:20 AM
Jan 2021

Okay seven words in that one.
That was in March of 2020.
He actually tried to bullshit us that there would be a week with just one case after this all got started.


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7. I've always assumed this.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 02:27 PM
Jan 2021

Particularly in the early peak waves they were not testing to confirm cause of death.


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8. The excess death count can IMO be partly attributable to indirect deaths
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jan 2021

People who cancelled/got cancelled on procedures even if they had a job, the unemployed who lost health insurance and access to treatment/medicine, etc.

Personally, I proactively cancelled a procedure in March because I foresaw the cancellation of "non-essential" procedures (to conserve PPE amongst other things). When I did finally get back in, they found something to fix in the nick of time. I'm sure others weren't as lucky.


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14. Tell that to my aunt's husband
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 07:53 PM
Jan 2021

Who got shuffled back because of all of this.

Awaiting more chemo and or surgery.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #13)


(10,864 posts)
11. They figure the number at the end of the year is 470,000
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:57 PM
Jan 2021
But those figures only measure excess deaths through the week ending December 19, when the official confirmed death toll was at 316,000. Since then, another 31,000 lost souls have been added to the official count. Excess deaths during the pandemic have hovered around twenty percent, meaning that in the past two weeks, it’s likely that an additional 6,000 deaths have been undercounted — meaning the current number of excess deaths is likely around 470,000.


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16. I've been wondering
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 08:17 PM
Jan 2021

how many people have wound up dying at home, without a Covid test, without diagnosis, because they couldn't afford either an ambulance or a hospital stay.


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17. Put this in perspective
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 10:38 PM
Jan 2021

Americans lost in combat in all wars:


Covid-19 since Feb. 350,000 or as this report suggest 500,000, not quite a year and over bejesus infections and over 125,000 hospitalized ................remember herd mentality and its a fucking hoax jargon from a Narcissistic melomaniac , with a touch of being homicidal tendencies

Heart deaths since 1950:


Food born deaths since 1850:


And just since the 2020 election 140 house and 14 senate republican enablers think the orange hair guy should stay in office with his team..................


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19. Not sure how much stock I'd put in this info
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 07:48 AM
Jan 2021

Annual deaths vary. It would probably be more useful to look at the actual annual data points rather than an average over x number of years.


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20. Unrelated to the Covid deaths, but a corollary
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 10:38 AM
Jan 2021

... is the fact that the 2020 Census is such a mess. The Repukes' legacy of evil strikes again in their politicizing of this year's Census. How can we compile death counts when we don't even know how many people are living in the USA right now?

This messed up 2020 Census is going to impact Congressional Districts of course. I believe that was their intention all along. But there are other ramifications in future years, e.g. when they try to report the Covid vs. non-Covid deaths from this screwed up year.

Maybe the only recourse is to redo the Census in a year or two, and replace any conflicting data related to this horrible year.

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