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Aides weigh resignations, removal options as Trump rages against perceived betrayals
Source: Washington Post
People who interacted with Trump on Wednesday said they found him in a fragile and volatile state. He spent the afternoon and evening cocooned at the White House and listening only to a small coterie of loyal aides including Meadows, deputy chief of staff Dan Scavino, personnel director Johnny McEntee and policy adviser Stephen Miller. Many of his top confidants Meadows, son-in-law Jared Kushner and first lady Melania Trump, among others were publicly silent.
Hes got a bunker mentality now, he really does, the close adviser said.
As rioters broke through police barricades and occupied the Capitol, paralyzing the business of Congress, aides said Trump resisted entreaties from some of his advisers to condemn the marauders and refused to be reasoned with.
He kept saying: The vast majority of them are peaceful. What about the riots this summer? What about the other side? No one cared when they were rioting. My people are peaceful. My people arent thugs, an administration official said. He didnt want to condemn his people.
Hes got a bunker mentality now, he really does, the close adviser said.
As rioters broke through police barricades and occupied the Capitol, paralyzing the business of Congress, aides said Trump resisted entreaties from some of his advisers to condemn the marauders and refused to be reasoned with.
He kept saying: The vast majority of them are peaceful. What about the riots this summer? What about the other side? No one cared when they were rioting. My people are peaceful. My people arent thugs, an administration official said. He didnt want to condemn his people.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-resignations-25th-amendment/2021/01/07/e131ce10-50a3-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html
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Aides weigh resignations, removal options as Trump rages against perceived betrayals (Original Post)
brooklynite
Jan 2021
OP
"Trump walked back and forth between the Oval Office and White House dining room watching ..."
mahatmakanejeeves
Jan 2021
#5
Keep sharp objects away from him and check his medications for cyanide. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2021
#7
Yes, but I'm conflicted. He'd be a martyr with a ready made hagiography & avoids deterrent prosecuti
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2021
#12
His cult sees him as strong. Suicide is about the weakest thing you can do
Clash City Rocker
Jan 2021
#13
Their rationalization would be he was strong but courts, rigged votes & Deep State was all against
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2021
#14
brooklynite
(93,873 posts)1. Trump ad-libbed his "go home" speech
White House aides tried to get Trump to call into Fox News Channel, but he refused. He at first did not want to say anything, but was persuaded to send some tweets. Then they scripted a video message for him to record, which he agreed to distribute on Twitter. But the president ad-libbed by including references to false voter fraud claims that they had asked him not to include, the administration official said. Twitter later locked his account, enraging the president.
SledDriver
(2,049 posts)2. Whataboutism
What about...?
What about...?
What about...?
sop
(9,946 posts)3. I hope "He's got a bunker mentality now..." is a historical reference.
Clash City Rocker
(3,379 posts)11. Someone hand him a gun and say "I know you'll do the right thing"
exboyfil
(17,857 posts)4. Bunker mentality
Those parodies from Downfall have nothing on this.
Earlier in the day we had a Congresswoman talking about how Hitler was right about influencing the ethical values of our children. A topic in which the Christian Bible, other sacred texts, numerous theologians, and humanists have given the same advice. She walked past all of them and got to Hitler.
Mary Miller is her name. Bless her Aryan heart.
mahatmakanejeeves
(56,897 posts)5. "Trump walked back and forth between the Oval Office and White House dining room watching ..."
"Trump walked back and forth between the Oval Office and White House dining room watching the events at the Capitol and was initially pleased by the disturbance, the people said -- a reaction that alarmed many of his aides, reports Bloomberg News.
Link to tweet
White House Officials Weigh Exits After Trump Incites Mayhem
By Jennifer Jacobs, Saleha Mohsin, and Jordan Fabian
January 7, 2021, 12:58 AM EST Updated on January 7, 2021, 8:12 AM EST
‣ OBrien to stay after appeals from allies outside White House
‣ Deputy national security advisor resigns over Capitol attack
{snip}
Inside Trumps White House, there is anger and consternation over the unprecedented violence that unfolded as Congress began counting Electoral College votes to confirm President-elect Joe Bidens victory.
Before Trump held a rally with thousands of supporters outside the White House in the morning, he spoke with Vice President Mike Pence by phone, urging him to reject some of Bidens votes while presiding over the count in a joint session of Congress. Trump told Pence that he could either be courageous or not, using a vulgarity, according to two people familiar with the matter. ... During the rally, the president exhorted his supporters to march on the Capitol. Crowds swelled before protesters finally broke through police lines and entered the building just after the joint session got underway.
It took aides about 45 minutes to persuade Trump to issue a tweet urging protesters against violence after they entered the building, according to people familiar with the matter. ... Those who tried to reason with the president included his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and White House Counsel Pat Cipollone, the people said, asking not to be identified. ... Meadows and the presidents daughter and senior adviser, Ivanka Trump, later persuaded Trump to film a short video he posted on Twitter, in which he repeated his unfounded claims of election fraud and held the protesters blameless for the violence while urging them to go home.
Trump walked back and forth between the Oval Office and White House dining room watching the events at the Capitol and was initially pleased by the disturbance, the people said -- a reaction that alarmed many of his aides. ... The White House declined to comment.
{snip}
By Jennifer Jacobs, Saleha Mohsin, and Jordan Fabian
January 7, 2021, 12:58 AM EST Updated on January 7, 2021, 8:12 AM EST
‣ OBrien to stay after appeals from allies outside White House
‣ Deputy national security advisor resigns over Capitol attack
{snip}
Inside Trumps White House, there is anger and consternation over the unprecedented violence that unfolded as Congress began counting Electoral College votes to confirm President-elect Joe Bidens victory.
Before Trump held a rally with thousands of supporters outside the White House in the morning, he spoke with Vice President Mike Pence by phone, urging him to reject some of Bidens votes while presiding over the count in a joint session of Congress. Trump told Pence that he could either be courageous or not, using a vulgarity, according to two people familiar with the matter. ... During the rally, the president exhorted his supporters to march on the Capitol. Crowds swelled before protesters finally broke through police lines and entered the building just after the joint session got underway.
It took aides about 45 minutes to persuade Trump to issue a tweet urging protesters against violence after they entered the building, according to people familiar with the matter. ... Those who tried to reason with the president included his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and White House Counsel Pat Cipollone, the people said, asking not to be identified. ... Meadows and the presidents daughter and senior adviser, Ivanka Trump, later persuaded Trump to film a short video he posted on Twitter, in which he repeated his unfounded claims of election fraud and held the protesters blameless for the violence while urging them to go home.
Trump walked back and forth between the Oval Office and White House dining room watching the events at the Capitol and was initially pleased by the disturbance, the people said -- a reaction that alarmed many of his aides. ... The White House declined to comment.
{snip}
wolfie001
(2,131 posts)6. Can't wait to see the list of names in the bunker
I'm sure it'll come out eventually. lol
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,788 posts)7. Keep sharp objects away from him and check his medications for cyanide. . . . nt
marie999
(3,334 posts)8. Why?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,788 posts)9. Hitler suicided by cyanide and bullet in his bunker. . . nt
marie999
(3,334 posts)10. I know, but if Trump commits suicide it might be best for this country.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,788 posts)12. Yes, but I'm conflicted. He'd be a martyr with a ready made hagiography & avoids deterrent prosecuti
"Oh he gave everything he had to saving America but the Deep State overwhelmed him and drove him crazy with overwork trying to save us."
He would avoid prosecution. A commission of inquiry does not have the same impact as charges and conviction and jail time, however unlikely or likely they may be.
He needs to be prosecuted and his presidency needs to be exposed for all its corruption at all levels but especially him at the top. This is necessary otherwise another authoritarian ideologue will try it again soon.
Clash City Rocker
(3,379 posts)13. His cult sees him as strong. Suicide is about the weakest thing you can do
Im not sure he would be considered a martyr for something he does to himself.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,788 posts)14. Their rationalization would be he was strong but courts, rigged votes & Deep State was all against
... all against him.
The narrative on the RW sites is that they are the only ones helping him in the whole country.
The Democrats have declared all out war on America. We need a good
crisis to change course. This is no time for the faint of heart as
there is no one with the resolve to save the country other than
President Donald J. Trump.
19 posted on 1/1/2021, by Spok
crisis to change course. This is no time for the faint of heart as
there is no one with the resolve to save the country other than
President Donald J. Trump.
19 posted on 1/1/2021, by Spok
cstanleytech
(26,080 posts)15. Plus they would push insane conspiracy theories such
as claiming he was actually murdered by the supposed Deep State.