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Wicked Blue

(5,832 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:19 PM Jan 2021

Pelosi calls for invoking 25th Amendment and says Congress could impeach if Pence does not act

Source: CNN

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called for invoking the 25th Amendment over the riots at the US Capitol and said that if that doesn’t happen then Congress may move to impeach.

“I join the Senate Democratic leader in calling on the vice president to remove this President by immediately invoking the 25th Amendment. If the vice president and the Cabinet do not act, the Congress may be prepared to move forward with impeachment that is the overwhelming sentiment of my caucus and the American people," she said in a news conference

This comes after Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer earlier today called for the vice president to immediately invoke the 25th Amendment.



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/washington-dc-election-riots/index.html?tab=all



From Washington Post:

Trump “invited an armed insurrection against the United States of America,” Pelosi told reporters at the Capitol, a day after a pro-Trump mob incited by the president stormed the Capitol, vandalizing the building and forcing lawmakers to be evacuated.

Pelosi left open the possibility of impeaching Trump a second time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/07/congress-election-biden-capitol-live-updates/#link-KLUZRTJ26NDHLKR42JEPXUTREY
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Pelosi calls for invoking 25th Amendment and says Congress could impeach if Pence does not act (Original Post) Wicked Blue Jan 2021 OP
K & R! 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2021 #1
K&R with all my soul. Guilded Lilly Jan 2021 #2
Better late than never...? FirstLight Jan 2021 #3
In other news... liberalgunwilltravel Jan 2021 #19
Preservation of the lives of Congress critters is now at stake. lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #25
"may be prepared" - meaning is not prepared. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2021 #4
I'm loving every Democrat today Walleye Jan 2021 #5
If nothing else a second impeachment would mark him Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #6
Yes! ShazzieB Jan 2021 #27
I'm surprised we have not heard from MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #7
I doubt that Rep Schiff does "I told you so." soldierant Jan 2021 #22
Oh, I certainly agree! MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #24
In her press conference a few minutes ago she said they WILL impeach if the 25th isn't invoked. George II Jan 2021 #8
I say give Pence until midnight tonight, then impeach. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #9
BOTH! Start now. Do both. Don't wait another minute. ffr Jan 2021 #10
Yes, NOW! n/t Paper Roses Jan 2021 #11
And while she is at it, she should have a mass censure of the seditionists in the house that voted IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #12
After what took place, I view censure as a slap in the wrist. Expulsion is the appropriate action. Denvermosaic Jan 2021 #13
Hrmmm. If Chuck is making public statements, I'd bet at least even money Volaris Jan 2021 #14
I believe you may be right. ShazzieB Jan 2021 #28
Remove AND Impeach. Both. (nt) Alex4Martinez Jan 2021 #15
Yes. Both, immediately. TryLogic Jan 2021 #30
Then, after that, impeach Pence for failing to act! littlemissmartypants Jan 2021 #16
in cruz et al best interest to impeach and remove JT45242 Jan 2021 #17
If Pence hasn't acted by this time tomorrow, read the impeachment charges... LudwigPastorius Jan 2021 #18
The thing impeachment gets you, even if it happens on DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #20
Amen to this ShazzieB Jan 2021 #29
Hell with 25A, he's been cray the whole term flibbitygiblets Jan 2021 #21
Sounds great, stronger than usual, but operative word "may"... Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #23
He wouldn't be able to run again - best reason to impeach. pat_k Jan 2021 #26
DO IT NOW orangecrush Jan 2021 #31
Just do it.. denbot Jan 2021 #32
The 25th will NOT be invoked. Kablooie Jan 2021 #33

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
3. Better late than never...?
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:22 PM
Jan 2021

This POS should have been removed any number of times before now.

But if they can really make it happen, fuckin DO IT Already!

19. In other news...
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:53 PM
Jan 2021

Reliable sources say that Susan Collins (R-mainly stupid) is concerned. This is breaking news, stay tuned for updates.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. Preservation of the lives of Congress critters is now at stake.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:28 PM
Jan 2021

They may feel more motivated than the first time around.

Bradshaw3

(7,517 posts)
6. If nothing else a second impeachment would mark him
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:28 PM
Jan 2021

As the only President to be so dishonored. It may not work and some will say so what but the historical record is important for our country in the future. Impeach the SOB again.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
7. I'm surprised we have not heard from
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:29 PM
Jan 2021

Rep. Adam Schiff - a perfect chance to go after the RepubliCons with "I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!"

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
12. And while she is at it, she should have a mass censure of the seditionists in the house that voted
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:19 PM
Jan 2021

for this anti Democracy action.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
14. Hrmmm. If Chuck is making public statements, I'd bet at least even money
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:34 PM
Jan 2021

That hes had himself a little pow wow with Yertle, and Yertles on board with this (even if he wont say it publicly)...which means theres ALSO an even shot that McConnell thinks the votes might be there.

Lol I told ya mcconnells vengeance would be harsh.

ShazzieB

(16,389 posts)
28. I believe you may be right.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:40 PM
Jan 2021

We know the turtle has turned his shell clad back on Trump. It makes perfect sense to me that he'd be on board for this.

littlemissmartypants

(22,655 posts)
16. Then, after that, impeach Pence for failing to act!
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:37 PM
Jan 2021

If that's possible. I'm all for both!

Enough is enough. No more mister and misses nice guys.

JT45242

(2,267 posts)
17. in cruz et al best interest to impeach and remove
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:46 PM
Jan 2021

The Rethugs who take his mantle will need him to never be able to run for office again which is what this would do.

Cruz and Hawley won't vote for it, but they will twist arms of others they might want in their camp o vote that way.

LudwigPastorius

(9,139 posts)
18. If Pence hasn't acted by this time tomorrow, read the impeachment charges...
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 04:48 PM
Jan 2021

to the chamber and vote.

In order to protect the country, this needs to be the first Warp Speed impeachment and trial.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
20. The thing impeachment gets you, even if it happens on
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:00 PM
Jan 2021

Jan 19th, is that Trump will never be able to run for election again. That should incentivise both Ds and Rs.

ShazzieB

(16,389 posts)
29. Amen to this
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:43 PM
Jan 2021

Also, the nuclear codes need to be OUT of the hands of that madman as fast as as possible, regardless of anything else.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
21. Hell with 25A, he's been cray the whole term
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:12 PM
Jan 2021

Besides, Pence will just pardon him anyway, and then we only have the states to go after him.

Impeach with a "do not rehire" stamp on it. So he can't ever hold public office again.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
23. Sounds great, stronger than usual, but operative word "may"...
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:21 PM
Jan 2021

What hasn't seemed to happen with trump is that there isn't punishment immediately. As close to crime as possible. If VP and cabinet were gonna invoke the 25th and really felt there was danger they would have done it at 10pm last night.

Realistically, a deadline should be given to VP. Becoming more obvious that they are really not that worried.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
26. He wouldn't be able to run again - best reason to impeach.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 05:32 PM
Jan 2021

People might contend time is too short to impeach, or that it isn't necessary, but I fervently hope (probably futility, but hope springs eternal and all that) this new majority caucus can "herd the cats," with lighting speed and vote out articles and enlist enough Republican Senators to remove. He would be unable to run again and it would make it clear to history how dangerous the man was -- that even another day with his finger "on the button" could not be risked.

At a minimum, voting out articles would be a powerful statement, regardless of outcome. (Particularly if removal even just got a simple majority.)

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
33. The 25th will NOT be invoked.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 09:13 PM
Jan 2021

No way Trump's, non confirmed toadie cabinet members would agree to that.
They have no morals and are just boot licking hanger ons.

And an impeachment will have no effect whatsoever on Trump in the next two weeks.
It could be useful if he was convicted after leaving because it would make him ineligible for office but it's just symbolic until then.

Trump will remain holding all the power of the presidency for the next two weeks, no matter what.

The danger remains.

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