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herding cats

(20,049 posts)
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:43 AM Jan 2021

An Air Force Combat Veteran Breached the Senate

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: New Yorker

As insurrectionists stormed the U.S. Capitol this week, a few figures stood out. One man, clad in a combat helmet, body armor, and other tactical gear, was among the group that made it to the inner reaches of the building. Carrying zip-tie handcuffs, he was captured in photographs and videos on the Senate floor and with a group that descended on Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office suite. In a video shot by ITV News, he is seen standing against a wall adjacent to Pelosi's office, his face covered by a bandana. At another point, he appears to exit the suite, face exposed, pushing his way through the crowds of demonstrators.

A day after the riots, John Scott-Railton, a senior researcher at Citizen Lab, at the University of Toronto's Munk School, notified the F.B.I. that he suspected the man was retired Lieutenant Colonel Larry Rendall Brock, Jr., a Texas-based Air Force Academy graduate and combat veteran. Scott-Railton had been trying to identify various people involved in the attack. "I used a number of techniques to hone in on his identity, including facial recognition and image enhancement, as well as seeking contextual clues from his military paraphernalia," Scott-Railton told me. Brock was wearing several patches on his combat helmet and body armor, including one bearing a yellow fleur de lis, the insignia of the 706th Fighter Squadron. He also wore several symbols suggesting that he lived in Texas, including a vinyl tag of the Texas flag overlaid on the skull logo of the Punisher, the Marvel comic-book character. The Punisher has been adopted by police and Army groups and, more recently, by white supremacists and followers of QAnon. Scott-Railton also found a recently deleted Twitter account associated with Brock, with a Crusader as its avatar. "All those things together, it's like looking at a person's C.V.," Scott-Railton said.

Two family members and a longtime friend said that Brock's political views had grown increasingly radical in recent years. Bill Leake, who flew with Brock in the Air Force for a decade, said that he had distanced himself from Brock. "I don't contact him anymore 'cause he's gotten extreme," Leake told me. In recent years, Brock had become an increasingly committed supporter of Donald Trump, frequently wearing a Make America Great Again hat. In the days leading up to the siege of the Capitol, Brock had posted to social media about his plans to travel to Washington, D.C., to participate in Trump's "Save America" rally. Brock's family members said that he called himself a patriot, and that his expressions of that identity had become increasingly strident. One recalled "weird rage talk, basically, saying he's willing to get in trouble to defend what he thinks is right, which is Trump being the President, I guess." Both family members said that Brock had made racist remarks in their presence and that they believed white-supremacist views may have contributed to his motivations.

In an interview, Brock confirmed that he was the man in the photos and videos. He denied that he held racist views and echoed Trump's baseless claims of election fraud, saying that he derived his understanding of the matter principally from social media. He told me that he had gone to Washington, D.C., to demonstrate peacefully. "The President asked for his supporters to be there to attend, and I felt like it was important, because of how much I love this country, to actually be there," he said. Brock added that he did not identify as part of any organized group and claimed that, despite the scenes of destruction that day, he had seen no violence. When he arrived at the Capitol, he said, he assumed he was welcome to enter the building.

Read more: https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-air-force-combat-veteran-breached-the-senate



Adding a link to the ITV video via tweet. He exits her office at 2:44 and walks directly past the camera crew.


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An Air Force Combat Veteran Breached the Senate (Original Post) herding cats Jan 2021 OP
well, he seems nice. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2021 #1
🗣 underpants Jan 2021 #9
He's too stupid to acknowledge his dear Hair Furor considers him a sucker... Lock him up. Jan 2021 #25
Thst last line seems to be a common talking point matt819 Jan 2021 #2
He's in for a surprise herding cats Jan 2021 #7
So he is the zip tie guy. His intent to restrain and then what? Kill? Bargain? cayugafalls Jan 2021 #17
Yes, he is. herding cats Jan 2021 #19
In 2019 I was on a cruise in Europe and on the tv they had ITV news kimbutgar Jan 2021 #45
Malcolm Nance also spotted him & others in serious tactical gear... Hekate Jan 2021 #22
There's another zip tie guy, who's younger. marble falls Jan 2021 #36
never assume when you're trying to overthrow the government nt msongs Jan 2021 #3
We very nearly saw orangecrush Jan 2021 #4
Here's a photo of him: Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #5
It gets way better for Brock!! According to the New Yorker he lives 7wo7rees Jan 2021 #30
I don't believe he will be employed anywhere tavernier Jan 2021 #31
I want consequences stollen Jan 2021 #6
I guess now he realizes orangecrush Jan 2021 #8
I guess everybody takes tactical gear and restraints to peaceful rallies, don't they? groundloop Jan 2021 #10
I expect this is not going to well for him once the FBI finishes digging into his history. herding cats Jan 2021 #11
K&R. Cut his military retirement benefits & charge him w sedition onetexan Jan 2021 #28
WTF Is this who the Air force Academy is turning out? Tommymac Jan 2021 #37
Colorado Springs, CO RicROC Jan 2021 #40
Yes. Unfortunately my estranged bible thumping nephew is one of them too. Tommymac Jan 2021 #41
That interview story is going to collapse. Assumed he could just walk in to center of world focus Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #12
What an arrogant fuck to even tell that bullshit story. groundloop Jan 2021 #14
Any bets on whether or not one of his associates is Erik Prince???? groundloop Jan 2021 #13
Be interesting to know what kind of flights the private aviation company does greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #16
Sorry, I only bet when I know I can win! nt pazzyanne Jan 2021 #27
Ok Brock, say we believe you were a sight seer, why zip ties? apnu Jan 2021 #15
Those Fucking repub DIRTBAGS Don't Even Give A Shit sfstaxprep Jan 2021 #18
"Torch" is a pretty apt call name considering what he just did to himself. Gore1FL Jan 2021 #20
Tiki torch? Torch the Capitol? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #32
Those certainly work themselves forward from his call sign! Gore1FL Jan 2021 #34
He is (was?) currently flying for Hillwood Airways out of Dallas TX winstars Jan 2021 #21
If he is in Farrow's story, he is already toast. BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #23
I figure the more the merrier... Like the scum in the video below: winstars Jan 2021 #24
The Fresno Retired Firefighters Association was well represented. Believe me. czarjak Jan 2021 #26
What a load of shit. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #29
Return to active duty for court martial Yeehah Jan 2021 #33
And don't let him free until he pays back the Millions of Taxpayer $$$ his AF Academy education cost Tommymac Jan 2021 #38
Thanks for this very Karma13612 Jan 2021 #35
A Trained Military AFA Grad who took the Oath. Firing Squads used to be in order... Tommymac Jan 2021 #39
lived his life, served our nation, then destroyed all of that because of a tin pot dictator wannabe. Javaman Jan 2021 #42
For everyone who says Antifa was responsible.... JohnnyRingo Jan 2021 #43
He needs to be stripped of his medals, and lose his veterans benefits for this insurrection and kimbutgar Jan 2021 #44
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Jan 2021 #46

NRaleighLiberal

(61,857 posts)
1. well, he seems nice.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:46 AM
Jan 2021

underpants

(196,495 posts)
9. 🗣
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:11 AM
Jan 2021

Lock him up.

(9,787 posts)
25. He's too stupid to acknowledge his dear Hair Furor considers him a sucker...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 03:24 AM
Jan 2021
... and a loser.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
2. Thst last line seems to be a common talking point
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:49 AM
Jan 2021

When I got there I saw no violence abc the doors were open so I thought we were welcome.

I’ll bet some research will turn up this talking point if you’re arrested.

herding cats

(20,049 posts)
7. He's in for a surprise
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:00 AM
Jan 2021

He was in her office and caught exiting


cayugafalls

(5,960 posts)
17. So he is the zip tie guy. His intent to restrain and then what? Kill? Bargain?
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 02:09 AM
Jan 2021

This guy is so fucked.

He needs to be zip tied and thrown in the prison.

herding cats

(20,049 posts)
19. Yes, he is.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 02:20 AM
Jan 2021

He's already caught lying in his interview.

If you view the video below at about 2:34 you see him exit Pelosi's office plain as day. Then he proceeds to walk right past the film crew, which is shown in the still frame I posted above.




kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
45. In 2019 I was on a cruise in Europe and on the tv they had ITV news
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:55 PM
Jan 2021

I got hooked on their station. Excellent commentary. Thank for the clip!

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
22. Malcolm Nance also spotted him & others in serious tactical gear...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 02:44 AM
Jan 2021

They constituted a small & purposeful group within the mob. Nance said zip-tie guy was dressed for capture & kill.

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
36. There's another zip tie guy, who's younger.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:19 AM
Jan 2021

msongs

(73,754 posts)
3. never assume when you're trying to overthrow the government nt
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:51 AM
Jan 2021

orangecrush

(30,261 posts)
4. We very nearly saw
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:52 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:43 AM - Edit history (1)


Our elected officials abducted and murdered in a horrible fashion by a pack of rabid shitbags.

Fuck him, fuck every last one of them, and everything they represent.

Denzil_DC

(9,100 posts)
5. Here's a photo of him:
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:54 AM
Jan 2021

Colonel (Ret.) Larry Brock of Texas

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
30. It gets way better for Brock!! According to the New Yorker he lives
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:59 AM
Jan 2021

in an affluent suburb of Dallas and works for Hillwood Airways......

Here's the good part.... Hillwood Airways, private jet company operating out of Alliance Airport and owned by...... PEROT family, headed now by Ross Jr!!
I don't believe he will be employed for much longer. Perot might even turn him over.....

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
31. I don't believe he will be employed anywhere
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 08:40 AM
Jan 2021

in either the near or distant future.

stollen

(1,143 posts)
6. I want consequences
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:58 AM
Jan 2021

orangecrush

(30,261 posts)
8. I guess now he realizes
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:03 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:43 AM - Edit history (1)


They weren't fucking around.

groundloop

(13,848 posts)
10. I guess everybody takes tactical gear and restraints to peaceful rallies, don't they?
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:16 AM
Jan 2021

A fucking retired Lt. Colonel!!!!!! That motherfucker needs to be recalled to active duty, court martialed, and sent to the south shore of Cuba.

herding cats

(20,049 posts)
11. I expect this is not going to well for him once the FBI finishes digging into his history.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:22 AM
Jan 2021

When they're done I won't be surprised to see him recalled and court court martialed.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
28. K&R. Cut his military retirement benefits & charge him w sedition
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:04 AM
Jan 2021

And send him to lockup.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
37. WTF Is this who the Air force Academy is turning out?
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:33 AM
Jan 2021

That institution needs to be critically evaluated and the Xtian Dominionists exposed and thrown out of the service.

What a fucking waste of millions of tax payer $$ to train this seditious asshole. He needs to be thrown in Fort Leavenworth for the rest of his miserable shitty life.

RicROC

(1,249 posts)
40. Colorado Springs, CO
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:07 PM
Jan 2021

My understanding is that Colorado Springs is a hot bed of evangelical activism. The Air Force Academy is located smack dab in the middle of them.

My cousin is an ex-chaplain in one of the military branches, and he said that mainstream clergy was passed over many times for promotions in favor of the more extreme Bible beaters.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
41. Yes. Unfortunately my estranged bible thumping nephew is one of them too.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:26 PM
Jan 2021

Not AFA, but lived in the Springs for long time.

Went to an unaccredited 'Bible College' in Eastern Washington, joined the AF, married a weird fundamentalist woman from deep in Tennessee inbred country, and went to Iraq 3 times to try and save the infidels by murdering them.

Dominionist for sure.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
12. That interview story is going to collapse. Assumed he could just walk in to center of world focus
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:22 AM
Jan 2021

He's incredibly stupid to think that people are going to buy his little innocent song and dance. Photographed holding zip ties in the well of the chamber

Also, notice the implicit white privilege that is obvious to us but not to him. He assumed he could just walk in. Are there any people of colour who think they could just walk in, on a very tense day, right into the center of attention of the whole world?

They can't separate their own fantasy from the snow job they are trying to pull over everyone.

groundloop

(13,848 posts)
14. What an arrogant fuck to even tell that bullshit story.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:27 AM
Jan 2021

groundloop

(13,848 posts)
13. Any bets on whether or not one of his associates is Erik Prince????
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:25 AM
Jan 2021
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
16. Be interesting to know what kind of flights the private aviation company does
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 02:02 AM
Jan 2021

"Luxury" flights for corporate clients, started by Ross Perot Jr, of all people, (a massive Trumpy whose Hillwood group gets all kinds of Trumpy goodies).

Two 737s "cargo/VIP" as the total fleet.

Be curious to know if they are transporting contractors of various types, ahem.

pazzyanne

(6,759 posts)
27. Sorry, I only bet when I know I can win! nt
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 03:35 AM
Jan 2021

apnu

(8,790 posts)
15. Ok Brock, say we believe you were a sight seer, why zip ties?
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:38 AM
Jan 2021

Hmmmmm. I think Brock is a bad bullshitter.

 

sfstaxprep

(10,599 posts)
18. Those Fucking repub DIRTBAGS Don't Even Give A Shit
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 02:20 AM
Jan 2021

Yeah, they talk about their "Friends Across The Aisle."

Listen Democrats, THEY'RE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.

I'm sure everyone here knows what could have happened, had they got a hold of a Senator or Congressman, and held them hostage with guns and zip ties.

And yet even after that, they still didn't give a shit enough to certify Biden's votes.

They are EVIL PIECES OF SHIT. I don't understand how the Democrats feel like they can work with people, who pretend like they care whether they live or die. The repubs would watch while Democrats were taken hostage and perhaps worse, and then they would be all sob, sob afterwards. Then 5 minutes later, all would be forgotten, and they'd go back to being Assholes, as if life were once again normal for them.

No Fucking Consequences. I want to see the Rioting Criminals all go to jail for a LONG time. Most of them won't, but I PRAY that some of them do.

Then I want the repub Congressmen and Senators to be treated like the Shitheads they all are. I'd like to tell them what I think about them to their faces someday.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
20. "Torch" is a pretty apt call name considering what he just did to himself.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 02:21 AM
Jan 2021

If Air Force was central to his identity he's going to look like a donut when they deal with him.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
32. Tiki torch? Torch the Capitol?
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jan 2021

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
34. Those certainly work themselves forward from his call sign!
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:44 AM
Jan 2021

Nice!

winstars

(4,279 posts)
21. He is (was?) currently flying for Hillwood Airways out of Dallas TX
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 02:40 AM
Jan 2021

According to Ronnon Farrow's New Yorker story above, he works there.

It would be a shame if people emailed this company to express displeasure about the activities of their employees...


https://www.hillwoodairways.com

682-831-0055

chartersales@hillwoodairways.com

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
23. If he is in Farrow's story, he is already toast.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 03:21 AM
Jan 2021

winstars

(4,279 posts)
24. I figure the more the merrier... Like the scum in the video below:
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 03:23 AM
Jan 2021

czarjak

(13,639 posts)
26. The Fresno Retired Firefighters Association was well represented. Believe me.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 03:32 AM
Jan 2021

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
29. What a load of shit.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 07:19 AM
Jan 2021

Everything he said about the insurrection is a lie, and he's well aware of that fact. Hope he likes prison.

Yeehah

(6,486 posts)
33. Return to active duty for court martial
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 09:24 AM
Jan 2021

Strip the traitor of his retirement. Make an example of this criminal seditionist.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
38. And don't let him free until he pays back the Millions of Taxpayer $$$ his AF Academy education cost
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jan 2021

Working at 15 cents an hour, he'll have that done in no time at all.

Karma13612

(4,981 posts)
35. Thanks for this very
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 10:50 AM
Jan 2021

Frightening story.

Seems like we might be headed to civil war II.

Under normal circumstances I would rest assured that the police would be on the side of reason. But, maybe that isn’t so solid anymore. Those of us living in red areas of blue states, do we need to be worried which side the local authorities are on?

Marching towards Gilead. I’m too old to be a hand Maiden. I fear I would be put out to pasture at one of those horrible work camps. I stopped watching the series part way thru Season 2. Seemed so scary that we could face that it in real life.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
39. A Trained Military AFA Grad who took the Oath. Firing Squads used to be in order...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:41 AM
Jan 2021

for Traitors to their country.

Not anymore, and I am against the DP, but I think I would make an exception in his case.

He has dishonored every single Military person who has fought, shed blood, and/or died to Protect and Preserve The Constitution in the history of Our Country.

So mad right now.

Javaman

(65,711 posts)
42. lived his life, served our nation, then destroyed all of that because of a tin pot dictator wannabe.
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jan 2021

he will now probably lose all his VA benefits, AF retirement and what ever job he had.

if he has a wife and kids, their lives will now be fucked up for the rest of their lives as well.

he will have a lot of time to think about his fucked up seditious actions in prison.

fucking moron.

there is an old saying that many of these fucking morons failed to remember: think before you act.

JohnnyRingo

(20,870 posts)
43. For everyone who says Antifa was responsible....
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:51 PM
Jan 2021

..this video should be played in response.
It's more than obvious that these were all hard core MAGAs.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
44. He needs to be stripped of his medals, and lose his veterans benefits for this insurrection and
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:44 PM
Jan 2021

Sedition against our country.

All these ex military types need to be branded traitors and lose all VA benefits and pensions.

Omaha Steve

(109,228 posts)
46. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 03:45 PM
Jan 2021

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