Reports: Pro-Trump 'armed march' on Ohio Statehouse planned for this weekend

[brooklynite]

Source: Columbus Dispatch

Citing security concerns, state officials declined to discuss preparations ahead of reports that supporters of embattled President Donald Trump plan an "armed march" on state capitols, including Columbus, on Sunday.

The Washington Post reported far-right online forums talked of planning for "an armed march on all state capitals" and included specific mention of Columbus following the deadly storming of the U.S. Capitol by a pro-Trump mob on Wednesday.

A couple hundred pro- and anti-Trump protesters clashed outside the Statehouse at a "Stop the Steal" rally on Wednesday as a mob of thousands gathered in Washington D.C. to sack the Capitol in the mistaken belief the election was stolen from Trump.

The Ohio State Highway Patrol, which is responsible for security at the Statehouse, cannot comment on planning due to security concerns, said Staff Lt. Craig Cvetan, patrol spokesman.

Read more: https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2021/01/11/governor-officials-wont-discuss-security-amid-talk-armed-march-ohio-statehouse/6621560002

[Initech]

1. This is getting freaking scary.

[mr_lebowski]

8. These idiots are going to accomplish the exact opposite of what they want if they start shooting

Marginalize themselves even further, and cause the dreaded 'Big Tech censorship' to get much worse.

And if they shoot dead authorities/police/Nat'l Guard, etc in any sort of large numbers ... it's going to cause a serious discussion about taking these idiots gunz away, a discussion that wouldn't ever happen otherwise.

[Initech]

10. I'm seriously starting to think some people really do need their guns taken away.

[Moostache]

45. I will volunteer to go pry them out of their cold dead hands if they insist...

Its a simple thing - GUNS are NOT SPEECH. You can protest and wear costumes and shout disgusting things to your heart's content - but you raise a riot or threaten people's lives or brandish firearms, you are no longer protesting and you are an insurrectionist. Those in commission of a felony HAVE NO RIGHTS to bear arms OR to protest.

You do not get to do whatever you desire because your guy lost, not here, not now, not ever.

And if they CHOOSE to march with guns, then I will again reply - I will pry the guns from their cold dead hands and turn them in for destruction and recycling.

[Evolve Dammit]

50. seriously. Anyone that wants to be an armed insurrectionist over an election loss.... nt

[Mr.Bill]

58. They're also going to get gun laws changed in some states.

Anyone open carrying a gun to the state Capitol will be breaking the law. And concealed carry requires a permit, which is very difficult to get in some counties. Get convicted of any gun law violation and you'll lose you're permit, and maybe your right to own guns at all. California also does not recognize carry permits from any other state.

[deancr]

64. Yes

Our republican controlled legislature in Michigan banned open carry on capital grounds today. Funny how they can bang the gong for unlimited weaponry until their own precious behinds are on the line.

[MineralMan]

2. Ohio's Governor Should Activate That State's National Guard

and post 10 times the number of expected protesters at the state capitol. Line them up and block access to the Capitol grounds altogether. Guard members should be fully armed.

Let the "armed protesters" face a overwhelming number of uniformed soldiers when they show up. That should sober them up a little.

Half measures are not going to work. Each state needs to put up a clear, overwhelming defense of its Capitol. There should be no question, whatsoever, about who is actually in charge.

All 50 states need to make this kind of response to any expected "armed protest." Period.

[mr_lebowski]

11. You mean like they'd do if these protesters were BLM supporters?

Yes, this.

[MineralMan]

15. Yes, like that. And even more, since these assholes will be armed.

There should be no mistaking the massive response when the protesters arrive. They should see that what they're doing is a complete waste of their time.

[groundloop]

22. I like the way you think

What happened last Wednesday must never be allowed to happen again.

I suppose we still don't know who was responsible for the totally inadequate preparations and manpower, but I have a sick feeling it goes all the way to the top.

[matt819]

43. This should be the guiding principle for every such planned march/attack

Every law enforcement office available - in the capitol and from nearby cities - riot gear, those tanks many places got during the Bush years. National Guard. And, while I don't want to be or sound cavalier about the use of weapons, somehow the terrorists must know that an armed response is what they should expect.

And while they may not want to announce their plans, they must be very visible in their efforts to secure the capitol. Barriers, fenced in areas, rerouting traffic, access controls, ambulances. And they need to start now. No last minute, night-before, oh-shit-we-haven't-done-anything behavior. Be prepared for mass arrests, and let the terrorist see that this is what they confront.

And to the extent that they can coordinate with other states so that these sorts of responses are consistent, I think that would be good.

Should all of this be necessary? After all, this is America. Well, it is America, and if this is what it takes to remain America, then, yes, all of this is necessary.

[MineralMan]

44. Yes. I hope that all takes place.

They also need to have a clear order of battle, just in case the morons decide to fire their weapons. Everyone should understand the planned response to that, which should be immediate and decisive.

I doubt that any of the boys playing soldier would fire at the people protecting the Capitols, but if they do, that fire should be returned massively. If the shooting starts, the only ones left standing should be those guarding the Capitols. It is just that serious.

Some might poo-poo what I'm saying, but there are people in the far-right militia groups who are insane enough to start firing at National Guard soldiers and law enforcement officers. Some are probably close to suicidal in normal times.

If they show up to protest, they should be met by overwhelming forces. That is the only way. They want a war. Some of them, anyway.

[soothsayer]

3. Just deny these permits

[MineralMan]

4. That is not enough. They will show up anyhow.

See my reply above.

[soothsayer]

6. Yeah but then the big show of force has cause to disperse them

I feel certain places will be better prepared this time

[SheltieLover]

29. This!👆

When they show up, police know what ti do.

[Chainfire]

5. There are fewer of the terrorist than it seems

They just need to be taught that they can not get away with sedition. An iron fist is called for. They are basically cowards and bullies and once confronted and pushed back they will cower in the corners.

[Chainfire]

7. There are fewer of the terrorist than it seems

They just need to be taught that they can not get away with sedition. An iron fist is called for. They are basically cowards and bullies and once confronted and pushed back they will cower in the corners.

States need to repeal laws that allow thugs to carry guns in public.

[pazzyanne]

16. "States need to repeal laws that allow thugs to carry guns in public."

The sooner, the better imho!

[SomewhereInTheMiddle]

37. If that is too hard ...

Change laws to disallow open or concealed carry on capitol grounds, and certain other government properties. I do not say all government property as hunting on public lands may be appropriate.

It the law disallows particularly open carry on capitol grounds then the protesters know they are asking for jail time and confiscation of their weapon(s) if they choose to continue their obvious intimidation tactics.

I enjoy target shooting, though I have never owned a gun. So I am not fully anti-gun. But, to me, open carry with the intent to intimidate and cause fear for political reasons seems to fit the definition of terrorism. I am definitely anti-terrorism.

Thanks.

[Chainfire]

49. It is already against the law to carry into a Post Office or Federal Courthouse. (among others)

Simply extend it to within 1000 feet of government buildings.

[pazzyanne]

53. I was raised with guns in a hunting family.

I'm not anti-gun but I see no use for carrying a gun when grocery shopping. I enjoyed hunting in my younger days, and we used hunting to supplement our kitchen table.

[mr_lebowski]

9. I think the State governments need to establish a perimeter around their state houses

where the safeties are off.

Come within 100 yards of the State House, and snipers WILL take you the fuck out.

NO fucking around.

And make sure every dipshit knows about it.

[greenjar_01]

21. These Forever Wart LARPers should understand a trigger line

[Lonestarblue]

46. I agree. These traitors want to overthrow government.

If they refuse to disperse or get violent, shoot them. I have no sympathy for any of the White Supremacist, Christo-Fascist thugs who think they have a right to topple democracy and install Donald Trump as our dictator.

[Evolve Dammit]

52. Same here.

[orangecrush]

67. THIS

[Gary 50]

12. All that's needed is for the authorities to prepare for that day as if there was going to be

a peaceful demonstration by Black Lives matter.

[Gore1FL]

13. I saw a Parler poster about this that was quite frightening

They called for the capitols to be taken on 1-17 and suggested people bring arms at their own discretion.

I fear and suspect they will try again on 1-20.

[patphil]

14. Who could have thought this would ever happen?

Any sane, intelligent, responsible person. That's who.

Recipe for revolution:
Take all those states that allow open carry, add in 100 million gun nuts with radical religious and/or political views, stir in decades of false and/or misleading right wing incendiary "news", then add in one lying fuck of an amoral, power hungry Hitler wannabe.
Mix well for four years, and bring to a boil with false claims of a fixed election.

We now have a huge pot of insurgency stew ready to be consumed by the mindless mob.

[llashram]

28. they will

get an upset stomach from this stew, just askAshli Babbit. Oh, my bad, she can't answer any questions at this time.

[blueinredohio]

17. Don't forget, DeSwine just signed "stand your ground" into effect in Ohio.

They will say they were afraid for their life. The assholes should protest at the governors mansion.

[Iwasthere]

19. Armed march on all capitals hetes the flyer

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13704575/trump-supporters-planned-protest-washington-armed/

[RobertDevereaux]

31. Yes, they plan armed marches against all 50 state capitols.

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As well as the US Capitol.

I fully expect high security is being planning everywhere that has been threatened.

[greenjar_01]

20. Ohio voted for Trump and the whole government is GOP

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Yeah - this is when the delusions of grandeur really stand out

It was the same sort of idocy here in PA where the biggest GOP mouthpieces were whining about and taking the state to court for a law that was actually written and PASSED UNANIMOUSLY (except for one of their members in the state House) by the GOP-controlled state legislature. One of the impetuses behind them doing it was to get rid of the straight-party voting that was permitted in the state at the time, that they complained "benefited Democrats".

And then they went into a complete disconnect by pushing the throwing out of ALL ballots, which would mean throwing out the votes for THEM too, forcing them to step down from their own seats, and this fact just didn't seem to register in their pea brains.

This goes to something even simpler than having "critical thinking" skills. It just requires "thinking skills". Period.

[Marthe48]

36. On a roll

yep.

[BainsBane]

61. Why bother thinking about that?

It would entail logic.

[Zorro]

23. Wonder if they'll show up around the Texas statehouse

[Bayard]

24. Only charging them with tresspassing

Enough of that crap! Charge them with sedition and murder/attempted murder. Lock them up for a long time--definitely long enough to where they can't get right back at it.

[llashram]

25. Ft. Sumpter 2.0

ready to kick-off leading up to January 20th? The red&grey will lose again. No doubts.

[marie999]

26. If someone tries to break into my home I have the right to shoot them.

Do the same for statehouses.

[bhikkhu]

27. But Melania said "This time is solely about healing our country and its citizens"

? Is that like calling a ceasefire so you can re load and bolster your positions, hoping the other side just relaxes and thinks it's over?

[Chainfire]

32. This country won't heal until Trump tells the truth about the election.

He made the mess and he is the only one that can fix it. So, bottom line is we will have to live with the division.

[Swamp Country Po Boy]

30. Don't be Surprised if there's a Sequel at the U.S. Capitol in DC

The legally-constituted authorities had better be ready this time!

[kwolf68]

33. WHY OHIO?

Are they trying to get Ohio to change their EVs to Biden?

[LisaL]

35. It appears that MAGAts are planning it in all the states.

NT

[brooklynite]

40. DeWine has been relatively critical...

Gov. Mike DeWine: President Trump started fire that 'threatened to burn down our democracy'

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/ohio/ohio-governor-mike-dewine-president-donald-trump-capitol-riot-reaction-differences/95-44b8fdab-dd7e-420c-a895-3cccf51b4eed

[NoMoreRepugs]

38. Guess we are all going to see if America really is a Nation of Law and Order aren't we???

[olddad65]

39. I'm waiting for trump to declare martial law and ...

Then invite the Russians to send ‘peace keeping forces’

[twodogsbarking]

41. I think he has tried the US military and they told him to

go back to Florida and shut up man.

[subterranean]

42. Some of Trump's followers said they are willing to die for him.

Now he wants them to prove it.

[Moostache]

48. I want to see them make good on it...mass suicide a la Heaven's Gate...

just please do so in area we can conveniently burn the building down instead of bothering with burials or funerals for their COVID infected corpses anyway.

[NEOBuckeye]

47. Fucking Nazis can rot in hell

Your fucking dumbass leader lost.

Deal with it.

[Paladin]

51. State authorities need to be well-armed in confronting the trump hordes.

Well-armed, and ready to put those arms to use. The scumbags who entered the Capitol and imperiled our House and Senate members didn't pay anything close to a high-enough price for their crimes.

[AntiFascist]

54. Hopefully law enforcement won't be messing around this time...

and rioters will be greeted with tear gas, rubber bullets, flash bangs, rifles, water cannons... everything normally used to oppose potential terrorists!

[Botany]

55. Don't fuck around with them. Knee nockers, gas, mace, batons, and body armor too.

BTW Trump won OH.



I had a friend who was Columbus, PD and those horse are trained to move sideways into a crowd.

Also have some buses from the Franklin county lock up there too.

[wcollar]

56. Should be Interesting

Since our wonderful (sarcasm) governor just signed a "Stand Your Ground" bill into law.....

[marble falls]

57. No tolerance. Ring them with sharpshooters.

[MontanaMama]

59. I never thought I'd be one to support this...

but I am now. They are begging for lethal force and they have it coming. Bottom line is that these terrorists are bullies and cowards. Warn them once and if they keep coming, mow down their front line and the rest of them will run. This BS has been tolerated for too long.

[marble falls]

60. That's one of the things I HATE Trump even more for. I don't own a firearm, I used to have an ...

... old single shot shotgun over twenty years ago when I lived in Nebraska, but I am thinking of purchasing a 9 mm pistol and an AR-15. There are all sorts of "libertarians" out here that I just know are capable of going house to house if systems start failing in the pandemic.

This place is just too 'good old boy' for my tastes. They'll be friendly at church, but I think if the shit hits the fan their inner Hitlers will show themselves.

Maybe I shouldn't have put up that little "sanctuary home" sign. Think I'll get another. Much bigger.

As soon as the pandemic lets me, we're gone.

[NickB79]

66. Not a lot better here in rural Minnesota

Less than 50 miles from St. Paul it turns into a sea of deep red. I STILL see houses in my area that are so brainwashed they're flying their Trump flags high and proud. Coworkers are still raging about Biden stealing the election. One was going off about how the Capital insurrection was an Antifa false flag operation. I used to be fairly outspoken about my dislike of Trump at work, but this past week I've been keeping my mouth shut for fear it will lead to screaming or worse.

I've already owned an AR and a shotgun for years, and a surprising number of friends were asking me for recommendations on what to purchase this past summer and fall as things started to look scary. They say we saw 23 million gun sales in 2020, with 5+ million people purchasing guns for the first time this year, a new record. I wonder how many were fellow Democrats arming up?

[marble falls]

68. There are lefty gun sites on the net. I used to have an AK in the seventies when I was a lot ...

... more cynical and full revolution.

Now, I just don't want to be put up against a wall or shot while on my knees. I really hate having to consider firearms at this late point in my life.

Its crazy all over. Biden said something that should push the pause in all of us. He said "there are no red or blue states, it's all about red and blue counties."

[ad121rome]

62. Great idea

Let them come, surround them and retrieve their cell phones. Find out where these idiots have been the last two weeks and then process them to await trial. Stupid people who need a civics lesson and some cell time. Bye, bye.

[Botany]

63. Better yet check them for outstanding warrants

Guaranteed that > 50% are dirty.

BTW I had to deal with these shits aka Trumpers on election day.

ad121rome

[JohnnyRingo]

65. Will they "stand their ground"?

DeWine inked a stand your ground law last week.
We'll see if the law enforcement makes them feel threatened enough to crouch, draw, and fire.

If enough of them do it, it'll probably deter the police temporarily. Perhaps giving the MAGAS enough time to retreat