Former Democratic Leader Daschle Warns Against Trump Impeachment

[brooklynite]

Source: Bloomberg

Former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle warned his party against impeaching President Donald Trump for inciting the mob attack on the Capitol, arguing that even a delayed Senate trial risks impeding urgent action President-elect Joe Biden must take to bolster the economy and combat the Covid-19 pandemic.

Daschle, who led Senate Democrats the last time the chamber was evenly divided, was joined by Trent Lott, who led Senate Republicans at the time, in urging Congress instead to formally censure the president. The two men were also their parties’ Senate leaders during President Bill Clinton’s 1999 impeachment trial.

Daschle called impeachment at a moment that party control of the Senate is so tenuous a “mistake,” saying it would first “galvanize” Trump’s supporters and then delay work on crucial issues. Incoming Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has favored proceeding, even with the coming 50-50 split in the chamber.

“An impeachment mechanism is just not the right course at all if they want to hold the president accountable,” Daschle said at a forum Monday with Lott held by the Bipartsian Policy Center.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-11/former-democratic-leader-daschle-warns-against-trump-impeachment

[NRaleighLiberal]

1. things are different, Tom. Pretty weak sauce.

[AZ8theist]

45. Tom who??

Sorry, but TREASON, INSURRECTION and GENOCIDE cannot be excused because of a future agenda.

There is no more pressing agenda than accountability for the crimes committed by Doturd, his family and his enablers in Congress and elsewhere.

[AZ8theist]

46. Sorry, Daschle, but now IS NOT the time to "move on"....

[Downtown Hound]

2. And suddenly, I remember why I used to flirt

with the Green Party when Daschle ran things. As I've gotten older I've chalked it up to naive youth and optimism, but it's also easy to forget just how weak Democrats were back then, thanks in no small part to "leaders" like Daschle. The party today is so much better.

[sandensea]

23. True

I always liked Tom - but he was definitely an authoritarian's idea of an "opposition" leader.

Just ask Dubya!

[Jazzgirl]

29. i have never been able to stand him.

He is so wishy-washy. I think he's a puke!

[DURHAM D]

3. Ring the bells...

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[KPN]

4. I've been around 70 years. My time is long past. So is Tom Faschle's. Onward Dems.

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Daschle’s ...

[groundloop]

5. Screw that.... Senate trial could be done in a day.

Especially with Majority Leader Schumer running things.

Or as President Biden said, do Senate business in the mornings and deal with impeachment trial in the afternoons for as long as it takes (shouldn't take long).

[brooklynite]

20. And when the Senate fails to convict, what then?

[Salviati]

21. Then we know that we did the right thing.

and all the world can see who are the patriots, and who stands with the seditious insurrectionists.

[Gore1FL]

34. And if it succeeds in convicting?

Sometimes you have to put people on record. If we don't fight now, they will only come back stronger. The United States is worth fighting for.

[SunSeeker]

40. Thank you! nt

[Miguelito Loveless]

56. If the senate fails to convict, then Trump will feel free to lash out again

and whatever happens as a result, is irrevocably on the GOP.

It is one thing to talk about backing Trump, and another to nail your colors to his orange ass.

[BarbD]

6. Give me a break. Really?

[Thekaspervote]

7. If we don't do this we will be looking at the same scenario again. We might not be as lucky

[EarlG]

8. Um...

“Give Mitch McConnell reasons to be a partner, reasons to be cooperative,” Daschle said. “Do that, I guarantee you, you’re going to accomplish twice, three, four times as much as you will otherwise.”

I guess Sen. Daschle hasn’t been paying much attention to politics for the last decade or so.

[Wellstone ruled]

26. Well,for what it is worth,

Daschle is making boo-coo bucks as a lobbyist now.

Times change,we are dealing with a Narcissistic Sociopath. Who poisoned the well of trust and contaminated the GOP to the extent that it needs to be throttled to a Minority for several decades.

Daschle should be reminded of his lack of Democratic Party building in his Home State. Went from most registered voters to less than fifty per cent of the high water mark as of this election cycle .

[Orrex]

9. I think that the word is Appeasement

[stillcool]

10. wow haven't seen that name in forever...

maybe he needs a refresher course in current events. The Trump supporters would be 'galvanized'. I wonder what he thinks they are now.

[choie]

11. so what should we do, Tom

just let him walk? This was a fucking insurrection at the behest of the president, Tom. Go back to the 1990's, Tom. Bipartisan Policy Center with Trent Lott my ass.

[BusyBeingBest]

12. Another one who thinks impeachment is a primarily political stunt rather than

the only real mechanism we have to deal with this criminal. Censuring? LOL, he'll wear that as a badge of honor. And how could his supporters possibly be galvanized MORE by another impeachment? They attacked the US Capitol on Trump's behalf, for fuck's sake!

[Lock him up.]

32. They not only attacked the Capitol, they murdered a cop on their way to try to hang...

the succession of power (Pence first) but hey, lets keep our powder dry...

What Tom and the likes don't realize is, when we organize correctly, motivate our base to vote, there are a lot more of us than there are of them only-in-it-for-the-money Repukes!

[RobinA]

62. It Is A Political Stunt

Trump is gone. It serves no practical purpose. Actually, it's a childish political stunt. Kind of a version of stealing the lectern. If this were year two of Trump it would be purposeful, but it's not. It's a show of power with no point to it.

[BusyBeingBest]

64. Impeachment isn't for show and it isn't for the current moment.

It's not a political tactic being deployed. Republicans made a mockery/stunt of the process with Bill Clinton, but Trump's impeachment(s) properly reclaim the purpose. It's our only redress against a lawless President. The time frame does not matter, what matters is that the process WILL be conducted and recorded in Congress, and 100 years from now, people will learn from the history that Donald Trump led a disgraceful uprising against his own country and government AND faced proper judgment for it.

[Phoenix61]

13. If the Dems don't impeach I believe we'll lose

a lot of the new young voters. These are kids who’ve practiced active shooter drills their entire academic career. They want a party that is willing to hold people responsible when they make bad choices. This is not the time to “play it safe.”

[OldBaldy1701E]

52. Responsibility and consequences

are all but a lost thing. We have spent many decades and much money to create many ways to dodge both. I have always said that the 80s were the 'it's all about me!' decade, and the 90s were the 'it wasn't me!' decade, due mostly to the fact that in the former, people were all about self-importance, yet when the chickens came to roost in the decade of litigation, suddenly no one did anything wrong to anyone regardless of facts and/or reality. The fact that those seditionists were allowed to leave the Capitol buildings tells me what I need to know. The fact that, had those same people been any color other than glowing white, there would have been such a police presence and way more action on the part of law enforcement than there was against those same glowing white people also tells me plenty. Those who truly bear responsibility for this horror need to be smacked down HARD. But, I am not holding my breath...

[Joinfortmill]

14. Nope. He's wrong.

[still_one]

15. Daschle was a weak Democratic leader back then, and obviously still. Both Schumer, Pelosi, Biden,

and the Democratic caucus are united on this. Until those responsible for the trump insurrection are held accountable we cannot go forward

[Gore1FL]

38. The one benefit of this is that is demonstrates as a party we are stronger than we used to be.

This article reminds me how aggravatingly weak I thought our responses to everything were during his tenure.

[Turin_C3PO]

55. We are a lot better now.

The DLC, while their hearts were in the right place, made the Democratic Party very weak for a while. I’m glad that era seems to have passed.

[walkingman]

16. So what...just ignore it....nope..Trump and his enablers have to pay a price for trying to destroy

our Democracy.

[diva77]

17. The damage from not holding republicans accountable has been cumulative

since the Nixon years. Time for Dems to address this. There is no way out but through.

[tirebiter]

18. Harry Reid: Democrats have no choice but to seek impeachment

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2021/jan/11/harry-reid-democrats-no-choice-seek-impeachment/


... Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says President Donald Trump's behavior gave House Democrats no choice but to move toward impeaching him a second time after the deadly assault on the U.S. Capitol.

“What he did was certainly impeachable," Reid told The Associated Press in an interview Monday. He said the president's actions inciting a mob that ransacked the Capitol is "about as close to criminal as anything I can imagine, what he's done.”

The House is scheduled to begin debating a resolution Wednesday that charges the president with “incitement of insurrection.” Before the debate, Democrats are first calling on Vice President Mike Pence to invoke constitutional authority under the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office before Jan. 20, when Democrat Joe Biden is to be inaugurated.

House Democrats plan to move quickly on the articles but delay a Senate trial for 100 days, which Reid said would allow them to first take action on Biden administration nominees and another round of coronavirus relief legislation...

[Zorro]

19. Tom Tom Tom...

It's time to play hardball with the Republicans, something you never learned to do.

Forget about offending the Republican base. Support the Democratic base instead.

There should be no compromise with the enemies of American democracy.

[PlanetBev]

22. Tom, if your political chops were on target

You’d still be in the Senate, instead of sitting at home in South Dakota, with Kristi Noem as Governor.

[Scruffy1]

43. He is a big time lobbyist in DC.

He knows how to kiss every ass.

[orangecrush]

24. Hey TOM

THEY WERE GOING TO MURDER EVERYBODY, AND TRUMP CREATED IT.

THEY ARE ALL GOING TO JAIL.

THEY WILL BE "GALVANIZED" TOGETHER IN PRISON.

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.

[dalton99a]

25. Who?

[Fiendish Thingy]

27. Irrelevant man says what? Nt

[Efilroft Sul]

28. This is why we lose.

You're out, Tom.

[Gore1FL]

30. I see he hasn't learned.

I remember him and Gephardt running to the White House to see who could be first to cave on Iraq.

That was a sad time.

We need to hold people accountable.

[scarletwoman]

31. Mealy-mouthed milquetoast jello-spined useless has-been says what?

pffft.

[Lock him up.]

33. Yeah-but-making-a-lot-of-money-as-a-lobbyi$t has-been...

After that, they accuse us all of the same sin$...

[badboy67]

35. We don't negotiate with terrorists, Tom.

[TeamPooka]

36. Tom's got the vapors.

[SunSeeker]

37. Censure for inciting INSURRECTION??? Fuck that.

Congress can walk and chew gum at the same time. They can pass Biden’s agenda in the morning and hold impeachment hearings in the afternoon. They did it with Nixon's impeachment. They just need to get rid of the filibuster in the Senate.



NO MORE APPEASEMENT!!

[live love laugh]

53. 💯

[William Seger]

39. If Trump is allowed to run again...

... he will spend the next four years "galvanizing" his fascist cult with lies.

[Roy Rolling]

41. Right...

Remember all those powerful statements he made just last week about Trump calling Georgia’s SOS to “find 11,800 votes somewhere”? Right, there weren’t any. He’s been silent for years.

Nobody called for an appeaser now, so his skills aren’t needed.

[rpannier]

42. Thanks for your nput, now go away Tom

The Bipartisan Policy Center... ie Democrats agree with 90% of what Republikkans think so they aren't viewed as radicals

[somaticexperiencing]

44. Daschle was always weak. Being weak does not help us.

There is no unity with traitors.

[quakerboy]

48. How TF

you think these people are gonna be more galvanized than trying to physically overthrow the government?

Go back and enjoy retirement.

[yuiyoshida]

49. NO. MORE. FUCKING. AROUND. impeach the bastard again!

FUCK THE Republican complaints..

[wishstar]

50. Should be warning that Republican enablers need to step up to correct The Big Lie

instead of promoting for Dems to back down to appease the Trump's insane mob.

[cstanleytech]

51. I think they should impeach him because it might prevent him from pardoning himself if

the Senate Democrats drag the trial out until after Trumps out of office.

[samsingh]

54. i always left daschle was the wrong person to lead the Senate. He enabled Bush during the Iraq war

and was far too afraid to stand up for anything.

[IsItJustMe]

57. Tom Daschle was the weakest Democrat that I have ever observed. He tried to appease the Republicans

in every way he could when he was in there. Those days have to over, or we will have no America left.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

58. The Great Appeaser has always been terrified of what Republicans will think and say, nt

[tonekat]

59. Had to withdraw from being Secretary...

...of HHS because he didn't pay his taxes.

He needs to remain in the background.

[backroadblast]

60. It's not his ass on the line

if he were facing down an angry mob, i'm sure he'd let em in to sing kumbaya

[WhiteTara]

61. Okay Boomer.

[KayF]

63. i remember things getting better after he was gone

him and Joe Lieberman.