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dalton99a

(81,475 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 02:46 AM Jan 2021

US carries out its 1st execution of female inmate since 1953

Source: Associated Press

TERRE HAUTE, Ind. (AP) — A Kansas woman was executed Wednesday for strangling an expectant mother in Missouri and cutting the baby from her womb, the first time in nearly seven decades that the U.S. government has put to death a female inmate.

Lisa Montgomery, 52, was pronounced dead at 1:31 a.m. after receiving a lethal injection at the federal prison complex in Terre Haute, Indiana. She was the 11th prisoner to receive a lethal injection there since July when President Donald Trump, an ardent supporter of capital punishment, resumed federal executions following 17 years without one.

“The craven bloodlust of a failed administration was on full display tonight,” Montgomery’s attorney, Kelley Henry said in a statement. “Everyone who participated in the execution of Lisa Montgomery should feel shame.”

“The government stopped at nothing in its zeal to kill this damaged and delusional woman,” Henry said. “Lisa Montgomery’s execution was far from justice.”

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/2-federal-executions-halted-d29e4250646d5e177df53efa64da6163

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US carries out its 1st execution of female inmate since 1953 (Original Post) dalton99a Jan 2021 OP
I thought a court paused thsis and other executions? Guess not catrose Jan 2021 #1
Stay of Execution was lifted of USSC around 8 pm this evening LeftInTX Jan 2021 #3
Because one thing "pro-life justices" love Miguelito Loveless Jan 2021 #12
I was just reading about this case: it was brutal. C Moon Jan 2021 #2
Groan: Two more cases scheduled before Jan 20th LeftInTX Jan 2021 #4
Americans are the best twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #5
one problem, imho.. Maxheader Jan 2021 #6
Witnesses can be wrong. Or lie. n/t Harker Jan 2021 #8
There was no doubt that this woman cut the fetus from her victim's womb committing a double murder Cozmo Jan 2021 #25
I've told my wife that should I be murdered Harker Jan 2021 #29
Her crime was as horrific as you get. alphafemale Jan 2021 #7
You're not considering the whole story. There was no justice served last night, authorities ... marble falls Jan 2021 #20
Do you seriously believe that this woman can be helped while serving a life sentence in our prisons? Cozmo Jan 2021 #26
There's no salvage here. But surely you aren't suggesting that because she is "broken" ... marble falls Jan 2021 #37
Thank you for saying that Matilda Jan 2021 #41
This one was doubly wrong. Thanks for the support. marble falls Jan 2021 #42
I am not in favor of the death penalty even for her. alphafemale Jan 2021 #36
Who said that!?!? Let's both join up and mope slap him!!! marble falls Jan 2021 #38
She committed a brutal murder left-of-center2012 Jan 2021 #9
And she was raped from three years old by father, step-father, family, family friends ... marble falls Jan 2021 #21
There is no excuse for the horrible murder she committed left-of-center2012 Jan 2021 #23
So I guess the quality of mercy IS strained ... marble falls Jan 2021 #24
Tell that to the dead woman left-of-center2012 Jan 2021 #30
The dead get no mercy, they get no justice. They are beyond that ... marble falls Jan 2021 #32
So, Did She RobinA Jan 2021 #34
The only thing most of these angry pro-death penalty project in their anger is "blood lust". marble falls Jan 2021 #39
Everything about this case orangecrush Jan 2021 #10
But it was premeditated. ADK Jan 2021 #11
The US needs to join BuddhaGirl Jan 2021 #13
It will s not justice. It is vengeance. TexasBushwhacker Jan 2021 #40
So that 10% of the time orangecrush Jan 2021 #16
Quit looking at snapshots, see the whole movie. marble falls Jan 2021 #22
Please don't assume that the posters have not viewed the whole movie Cozmo Jan 2021 #27
Did you look past the crime? What do you make of her brutized life? No one ever went to jail. marble falls Jan 2021 #28
Thank you. ADK Jan 2021 #33
Capital Punishment RobinA Jan 2021 #35
Hey, trump had to do SOMETHING to cheer himself up. (nt) Paladin Jan 2021 #14
This info is wrong. Karla Faye Tucker on 2/4/98 was executed by TX when Bush refused to in2herbs Jan 2021 #15
Correct orangecrush Jan 2021 #17
She was executed in a state prison TexasBushwhacker Jan 2021 #18
Her crime was horrifying. So was her life. TexasBushwhacker Jan 2021 #19
He story is so sad Marrah_Goodman Jan 2021 #31
This is one area I personally break ranks with the majority. Quackers Jan 2021 #43

LeftInTX

(25,300 posts)
3. Stay of Execution was lifted of USSC around 8 pm this evening
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:57 AM
Jan 2021

BREAKING: #SCOTUS has lifted stay on federal execution set for tonight of Lisa Montgomery. 3 Dem appointees dissent. Ruling overturns DC Circuit's halt. Another application is pending but it appears the execution will go forward

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To be honest, I'm glad the appeals went through before Biden was president. I hope there are no more federal executions scheduled before Jan 20th.

I feel bad for death row inmates. They don't know if they are going to be executed until the last minute. I thought it was a "Texas thing", where the supreme court denies a stay and within a few minutes, they're gone. I guess it happens in federal level too....

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
2. I was just reading about this case: it was brutal.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 03:23 AM
Jan 2021

I guess the daughter is still alive. I hope she and her father are doing well.

LeftInTX

(25,300 posts)
4. Groan: Two more cases scheduled before Jan 20th
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 04:07 AM
Jan 2021

Their executions were stayed due to Covid......

Two more executions are scheduled this week, for Corey Johnson on Thursday and Dustin Higgs on Friday. Both of their executions have been halted by a federal court judge as the men are still recovering from Covid-19. Prosecutors intend to appeal the ruling on Higgs and Johnson, according to court documents.

Cozmo

(1,402 posts)
25. There was no doubt that this woman cut the fetus from her victim's womb committing a double murder
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:23 PM
Jan 2021

Yes, Montgomery was a twisted soul, but the crime was heinous. Seriously, as much as I oppose the taking of another's life, how would you feel?

Harker

(14,015 posts)
29. I've told my wife that should I be murdered
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:39 PM
Jan 2021

I would posthumously ask that no death penalty be pursued.

Yes, that is an especially atrocious crime. Sickening.

My comment on the fallability of witness testimony was intended to be applied broadly, not specifically to this or any other particular case.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
7. Her crime was as horrific as you get.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:11 AM
Jan 2021

Completely vile and premeditated against a victim lured to her death.

Killing her does nothing to erase that though.

America has way too much of a blood lust sense of justice than is fathomable for a nation where people are supposed to be educated.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
20. You're not considering the whole story. There was no justice served last night, authorities ...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:17 AM
Jan 2021

... only buried the result of official neglect and missed opportunities to help this woman who lived a most tortured life failed by literally everyone who had official contact with this poor woman her entire life.

Want to read some real horror? Read about her ENTIRE life.

She was a victim, too.

Cozmo

(1,402 posts)
26. Do you seriously believe that this woman can be helped while serving a life sentence in our prisons?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:24 PM
Jan 2021

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
37. There's no salvage here. But surely you aren't suggesting that because she is "broken" ...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:59 PM
Jan 2021

... and there would be no advantage to a life term, dying was a good thing for society and her?

That's just a step from euthanasia. Quality of life, a desire to remove broken and less than humans from society inspired killing millions not that long ago.

Matilda

(6,384 posts)
41. Thank you for saying that
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:32 PM
Jan 2021

I was shocked when I first read what she'd done. But then I read what happened to her - one of the main perpetrators being her own mother - and it was too much. Such a sweet, open face she had when she was a child; it broke my heart.

I don't believe in the death penalty, ever. But this is the first time I've shed tears for someone who was executed.


Edit: sp.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
36. I am not in favor of the death penalty even for her.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:00 PM
Jan 2021

Killing her will not erase what she did.

But there is no excuse for what she did.


People that have a bad childhood should be allowed to slaughter innocent people?

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
38. Who said that!?!? Let's both join up and mope slap him!!!
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:05 PM
Jan 2021

"People that have a bad childhood should be allowed to slaughter innocent people?" Whoever said that is wrong.

She was broken, but she was also part of society: part of us. Obviously (at least to me) is that she would have been better served by indefinite confinement in a high security facility with intensive therapy. Like what they did for John Hinckley Jr.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
9. She committed a brutal murder
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:29 AM
Jan 2021

She strangled a pregnant woman to death and then cut her womb open and stole her baby.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
21. And she was raped from three years old by father, step-father, family, family friends ...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:22 AM
Jan 2021

... beaten, starved, keep from school, forced to sleep in the basement on concrete, beaten raped by husbands, ex-husbands, and their friends. She was sterile from her teens from complications of STDs.

The murder of this poor soul is on OUR heads.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
24. So I guess the quality of mercy IS strained ...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:17 PM
Jan 2021

“The quality of mercy is not strained.
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blessed:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.

This woman deserved mercy.

And before you type it: No! No one thought she should have been cut loose. Her life was not an excuse or license. It was an "extenuating circumstance" and it should have kept her out of the death chamber.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
32. The dead get no mercy, they get no justice. They are beyond that ...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:57 PM
Jan 2021

... I think Christ said it aptly on the cross, "Bless them Father, they know not what they do." I sure don't think she was in her right mind, I don't believe she is as a criminal so much as not of her right mind due to her beyond horrible.

I don't yell. Anyways, you seem to be doing enough of it for both of us.


Justice is not about the crimes. It's not about getting even, getting 'justice' for the victims. It's about 'trying' society's value against an alleged crime, to give 'hearing' to what is a dispute. The victim is actually a witness or evidence.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
34. So, Did She
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 02:02 PM
Jan 2021

come back to life once this woman was executed? If not, this state-sponsored killing was nothing more than blood lust.

orangecrush

(19,546 posts)
10. Everything about this case
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:33 AM
Jan 2021


Says "extreme mental illness".

Peace to the family of the victim, and this poor soul's suffering is over.

 

ADK

(83 posts)
11. But it was premeditated.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:14 AM
Jan 2021

She planned her crime and researched the Caesarian procedure in advance. The woman clearly had some mental health issues, but her forethought suggests that she had the mental capacity to understand what she was doing and to discern right from wrong. Her crime also was unbearably cruel. I don’t know about her mental state at the time of execution.

While I’m opposed to the death penalty as a general matter because the justice system has proven itself to be imperfect and fallible, there certainly are some crimes that are just so heinous that the perpetrator should lose the right to live among us. This may be one of them. But the easy cases where guilt is undisputed shouldn’t give rise to the rule.

BuddhaGirl

(3,605 posts)
13. The US needs to join
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:22 AM
Jan 2021

the rest of the civilized world. There are no exceptions to the DP.

We are either for it or against it. It is not "justice."

orangecrush

(19,546 posts)
16. So that 10% of the time
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:42 AM
Jan 2021


When we have executed innocent people is the acceptable cost of satisfying our bloodlust?

Cozmo

(1,402 posts)
27. Please don't assume that the posters have not viewed the whole movie
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:31 PM
Jan 2021

We are making short posts here. but I can assure you that the thoughts posted here well thought out based on the details of this horrid event from both criminal and victim's experience.

 

ADK

(83 posts)
33. Thank you.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jan 2021

People here seem to comment based on headlines or subjects without actually reading articles or posts, and seem to take issue with forum members who don’t share the view that is most commonly accepted on this forum. This is pretty ironic for a forum that is “Democratic.’ I certainly have viewed the “whole movie,” and my opinion regarding the death penalty should be clear to anyone who took the time to read my post.

The easy cases where perpetrators are indisputably guilty of awful crimes and capitol punishment can be more easily justified make bad law unfortunately. While the mental health of the perpetrator here certainly raises issues, the fact is her crime was horrendous, and there is at least some evidence that she she was legally competent when she committed the crime.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
35. Capital Punishment
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jan 2021

is never justified. Legal competence has nothing to do with sentences for crimes. You have to be competent to be tried.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
15. This info is wrong. Karla Faye Tucker on 2/4/98 was executed by TX when Bush refused to
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:37 AM
Jan 2021

stop the execution. She was the first woman to be executed since the Civil War. (I remembered this happening and a quick Google search turned up this info.)

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
18. She was executed in a state prison
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:54 AM
Jan 2021

Executions in federal prisons are far more rare, because most murders are state, not federal crimes.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
43. This is one area I personally break ranks with the majority.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:04 PM
Jan 2021

I’m not opposed to the death penalty. It should be used sparingly and in the worst of cases where guilt is unquestionable.

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