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groundloop

(13,636 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:49 PM Jan 2021

Trump contemplates using pardons to move subject away from impeachment and riots

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: CNN

As President Trump made history tonight as the only US president to be impeached twice, one White House adviser said “everybody’s angry at everyone” inside the White House, with the President being upset because he thinks people aren’t defending him enough.

(snip)

"He’s by himself, not a lot of people to bounce ideas off of, whenever that happens he goes to his worst instincts. Now that Twitter isn’t available God only knows what the outlet will be," the source said.

One outlet Trump is focused on is wielding what power he has left: pardons. Multiple sources told CNN the next batch of pardons could come as soon as Thursday, in part to distract from the current narrative.

One of the sources also noted that Trump was planning to give New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick the medal of honor tomorrow, but Belichick refused. Announcing some pardons could replace that, especially if there are some high-profile ones.

Read more: Scroll Down https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/house-trump-impeachment-vote-01-13-21/h_ba9752fdf65b29ad98f4031e63fe8b52

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Trump contemplates using pardons to move subject away from impeachment and riots (Original Post) groundloop Jan 2021 OP
The pardons were gonna happen regardless.... TheRealNorth Jan 2021 #1
Pardon Son of Sam, Manson and Zodiac Killer. Go for it. Then drop dead. K? Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #2
+1 Auggie Jan 2021 #6
The Naomi Kline quote is really good, and certainly applicable right now. Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #11
sorry "Klein" Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #12
Thanks. Maybe we need to change the last sentence though: Auggie Jan 2021 #20
I posted before I read the responses ... UpInArms Jan 2021 #33
OK, that probably means Bernie Madoff, Eric Rudolph, Ted Kaczinski, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #3
Too Late Fatso. BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #4
Perfect! jayfish Jan 2021 #5
Maybe it will prevent him from encouraging further acts of insurrection! AntiFascist Jan 2021 #7
Trump can do and say whatever..He will not move the subject away from impeachment & riots.. Stuart G Jan 2021 #8
I agree with all of that Rorey Jan 2021 #39
The gasoline and diesel are making too high of flames - anyone got some kerosine? He's his ... marble falls Jan 2021 #9
If he wants to rehab his image, go play golf somewhere LeftInTX Jan 2021 #10
No presidential library for Benedict Donald after twitter blocked him groundloop Jan 2021 #28
I'm trying to keep him out of trouble...LOL LeftInTX Jan 2021 #31
I just love birdographer Jan 2021 #13
I actually don't want him to have any bad physical health events Rorey Jan 2021 #40
Let's see who at the pentagon gets a pardon soothsayer Jan 2021 #14
all hell breaking loose... stillcool Jan 2021 #15
Elp-hey Em-may, Eee-flay.., or something like it. denbot Jan 2021 #19
Distracting the current narrative does not bode well for the insurrectionists... EarthFirst Jan 2021 #16
just what I was thinking..... getagrip_already Jan 2021 #25
Maybe he'll pardon Charles Manson. louis-t Jan 2021 #17
I'm betting every cent I have Oscarthegreat Jan 2021 #18
Still predicting he will commute sentence of Justin Volpe greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #21
This is what happens Puppyjive Jan 2021 #22
How about that overdue concession speech? ucrdem Jan 2021 #23
you can't pardon yourself out of impeachment mdbl Jan 2021 #24
Watch that asshole pardon Terry Nichols. nt Gore1FL Jan 2021 #26
Trump will have his face rubbed into the impeachment and riots indefinitely. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #27
Pardons, Presidential Medals of Freedom, and herpes are all Donald has left to give anyone. TeamPooka Jan 2021 #29
Maybe anal warts? That's communicable. Marie Marie Jan 2021 #36
I wanna see him pardon Assata Shakur .... jb5150 Jan 2021 #30
Charles Manson and Son of Sam are dead UpInArms Jan 2021 #32
A pardon for the Coronavirus. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #35
He's by himself... The fact that Trump feels all alone warms my heart. Marie Marie Jan 2021 #37
He'll expunge OJ's record, and the two of them Totally Tunsie Jan 2021 #38
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Jan 2021 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve Jan 2021 #41

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
1. The pardons were gonna happen regardless....
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:51 PM
Jan 2021

Screw his BS distractions. Keep Calm and Carry on.

Evolve Dammit

(21,615 posts)
2. Pardon Son of Sam, Manson and Zodiac Killer. Go for it. Then drop dead. K?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:54 PM
Jan 2021

Auggie

(32,990 posts)
6. +1
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:59 PM
Jan 2021

Evolve Dammit

(21,615 posts)
11. The Naomi Kline quote is really good, and certainly applicable right now.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:12 PM
Jan 2021

Evolve Dammit

(21,615 posts)
12. sorry "Klein"
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:13 PM
Jan 2021

Auggie

(32,990 posts)
20. Thanks. Maybe we need to change the last sentence though:
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:14 PM
Jan 2021

"There is only one thing that can block this tactic, and fortunately, we have her on our side: Stacey Abrams."

The Velveteen Ocelot

(129,746 posts)
3. OK, that probably means Bernie Madoff, Eric Rudolph, Ted Kaczinski,
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:55 PM
Jan 2021

Terry Nichols and Ramzi Yousef. Maybe he could grant posthumous pardons to John Gotti, Jeffrey Dahmer and Charles Manson while he's at it.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
4. Too Late Fatso.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:56 PM
Jan 2021

There will be a steady and alarming release of information about the insurrectionists - including Trump and other elected Republicans for his petty acts to drown out.

jayfish

(10,195 posts)
5. Perfect!
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:58 PM
Jan 2021

...casue that's what Presidential pardons are for.

AntiFascist

(13,746 posts)
7. Maybe it will prevent him from encouraging further acts of insurrection!
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:00 PM
Jan 2021

after all, that seems to be the main purpose.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
8. Trump can do and say whatever..He will not move the subject away from impeachment & riots..
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:04 PM
Jan 2021

He can pardon who he wants and is able to pardon...It won't matter one bit........
Trump's legacy is written in the riot that he caused. ........................

...... Donald Trump could NOT SHUT UP!!!! ............
...........If Donald Trump had SHUT THE "F" UP, we would not be having this conversation!!!
All it proves is how stupid and self centered Donald Trump is...My guess is that he was told by
staff and friends to ..."SHUT UP, AND KEEP QUIET BY ADVISORS.." ...(for the last few weeks of his presidency, that is my guess)..
................YES....I am guessing again....

...But Donald Trump could not follow that advise...He thinks he knows it all..This two weeks prove
to all...... how stupid and self centered Donald Trump really is.......................

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
39. I agree with all of that
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:29 AM
Jan 2021

He can't stop what's going to happen to him. In six days, he'll have NO leverage.

marble falls

(71,402 posts)
9. The gasoline and diesel are making too high of flames - anyone got some kerosine? He's his ...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:05 PM
Jan 2021

worst enemy.

LeftInTX

(34,031 posts)
10. If he wants to rehab his image, go play golf somewhere
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:12 PM
Jan 2021

Or plan your "Presidential" Library

groundloop

(13,636 posts)
28. No presidential library for Benedict Donald after twitter blocked him
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:04 PM
Jan 2021

LeftInTX

(34,031 posts)
31. I'm trying to keep him out of trouble...LOL
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:14 PM
Jan 2021

Maybe he can gather up his porn videos or stack of playboys...

It would certainly be better than pardoning a bunch of crooks

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
13. I just love
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:16 PM
Jan 2021

every time I read that he's upset. The words stroke and heart attack come to mind and I smile a little inside.

If he wants to distract from the siege with pardons, perhaps that means he will NOT be pardoning his low-class thugs.

Rorey

(8,514 posts)
40. I actually don't want him to have any bad physical health events
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:32 AM
Jan 2021

Then there would be a sympathy thing going on. It could be a reason not to go after him, some would say.

I want him to be able to endure his trials.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
14. Let's see who at the pentagon gets a pardon
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:19 PM
Jan 2021

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
15. all hell breaking loose...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:20 PM
Jan 2021

and announcing pardons will distract from whatever else they're planning? Wonder if he'll use code.

denbot

(9,948 posts)
19. Elp-hey Em-may, Eee-flay.., or something like it.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:11 PM
Jan 2021

I won’t bother digging out my decoder ring..

EarthFirst

(4,016 posts)
16. Distracting the current narrative does not bode well for the insurrectionists...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:21 PM
Jan 2021

A pardon to one or more of these individuals will do anything but distract from the current narrative.

No sympathies for these traitors.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
25. just what I was thinking.....
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:38 PM
Jan 2021

you can't distract the country from sedition by pardoning the seditionists.... It would also surely solidify support for impeachment.

louis-t

(24,583 posts)
17. Maybe he'll pardon Charles Manson.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:48 PM
Jan 2021

Or a few serial killers.

 

Oscarthegreat

(121 posts)
18. I'm betting every cent I have
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:54 PM
Jan 2021

If Timothy McVey were alive, Trump would have pardoned him and then call him a "fine man".

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
21. Still predicting he will commute sentence of Justin Volpe
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:20 PM
Jan 2021

Probably more likely now that he needs to suck up to police.

Puppyjive

(951 posts)
22. This is what happens
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:59 PM
Jan 2021

This is what happens when you make the mob boss President of the United States. He springs for his buddies so his crimes don't look so bad.

ucrdem

(15,720 posts)
23. How about that overdue concession speech?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:06 PM
Jan 2021

Or that inauguration RSVP you haven't sent? That would change the narrative bigly.

mdbl

(8,287 posts)
24. you can't pardon yourself out of impeachment
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:33 PM
Jan 2021

that is there with you forever.

Gore1FL

(22,895 posts)
26. Watch that asshole pardon Terry Nichols. nt
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:58 PM
Jan 2021

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
27. Trump will have his face rubbed into the impeachment and riots indefinitely. nt
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:02 PM
Jan 2021
 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
29. Pardons, Presidential Medals of Freedom, and herpes are all Donald has left to give anyone.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:09 PM
Jan 2021

Marie Marie

(11,045 posts)
36. Maybe anal warts? That's communicable.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:41 PM
Jan 2021

jb5150

(1,361 posts)
30. I wanna see him pardon Assata Shakur ....
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:29 PM
Jan 2021

I wonder what his base would think of that ...

UpInArms

(54,430 posts)
32. Charles Manson and Son of Sam are dead
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:16 PM
Jan 2021

Maybe he can dig up Jeffrey Dahmer ...

Possibly do posthumous pardons for all three ...

He could also give Adolf Hitler a posthumous citizenship

My Pet Orangutan

(12,595 posts)
34. A pardon for the Coronavirus.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:30 PM
Jan 2021

Covid is a hoax.

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Marie Marie

(11,045 posts)
37. He's by himself... The fact that Trump feels all alone warms my heart.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:46 PM
Jan 2021

He always was, but too stupid to know it. He has no real relationships - never has. Suddenly and at last, he is feeling this. He has used everyone who ever reached their hand or heart out to him and discarded them when they no longer served a purpose. There are consequences for this. He won't learn anything from this, he'll just play the victim. But he may be finally be feeling the results of treating people like objects.

Totally Tunsie

(11,677 posts)
38. He'll expunge OJ's record, and the two of them
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 02:33 AM
Jan 2021

will become best golfing buddies while still looking for Nicole Brown Simpson's murderer.

Omaha Steve

(108,696 posts)
41. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 07:12 AM
Jan 2021

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