Comey: Biden should consider pardoning Trump

[My Pet Orangutan]

Source: The Hill

Former FBI Director James Comey suggested President-elect Biden should consider pardoning President Trump if he faces criminal prosecution after leaving office.

"I don't know, he should at least consider it," Comey said during an interview with BBC Newsnight. "Donald Trump, he's not a genius, but he might figure out that if he accepts a pardon, that's an omission of guilt, the United States Supreme Court has said, so I don't know that he would accept a pardon."

Comey said that a potential pardon from Biden would help "as part of healing the country and getting us to a place where we can focus on things that are going to matter over the next four years."

"I think Joe Biden is going to have to at least consider it," he added.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/534195-comey-biden-should-consider-pardoning-trump

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. Irrelevant man says what? Nt

[TomCADem]

110. Thought Neither Trump Nor Biden Can Pardon for an Impeached Crime...

...otherwise the power of Congress to impeach would be largely meaningless.

[Fiendish Thingy]

119. Only impeachment itself is unpardonable, not the underlying crimes. Nt

[TomCADem]

123. So why did Nixon resign?

After the House impeached him and the Senate threatened to convict him, are you saying that Nixon could have then pardoned away the underlying crimes?

[Fiendish Thingy]

124. A President can't pardon themselves- Nixon resigned so Ford could pardon him. Nt

[samnsara]

129. cant wait to see trump arrested

[lastlib]

152. Did you guys hear a gurgling sound??

Weird. It was just "gurglegurgleblurblurbgurgaaghgurggurg"........ Souded like Sarah Palin drowning.

[LisaL]

2. We might have not been in this nightmare if Comey didn't write his letters.

So as far as I am concerned, Comey should shut up.

[Cozmo]

24. Took the words right out of my mouth. Geez, who told Comey he was relevant?

[StevieM]

122. There is no "might" about it.

Comey turned that election upside down--repeatedly. He dominated the 2016 election, from start to finish. If you take Comey's illegitimate antics out of the equation Clinton would have easily defeated Trump.

[Warpy]

125. Comey handed the election to that monster on a silver platter

No, Comey, he is not going to go away. We're not going to make nice and "heal" by knuckling under to a traitor. He should never be out from under any charges.

He, like you, did the crime. Now you'll both have to live with the consequences.

[DENVERPOPS]

139. No question about it.

He should be prosecuted for throwing the election with HIS out right lies..............

[The Polack MSgt]

3. Well, no one wants to see his handiwork broken

So of course Comey want to protect the man he put in office.

Eat a sack of rats' ass Comey. You fucking disgrace

[Lonestarblue]

4. Comey is unhinged if he thinks Democrats will accept a pardon for Trump.

Comey needs to accept that his time on the stage has ended and he needs to stay in the wings.

[PatSeg]

33. And to believe

that it would help in the healing of the country? That is absolutely insane. People are never going to forget all that Trump has done and pardoning him will only give other dishonest corrupt politicians license to defy norms and break the law. If we don't hold a criminal like Trump accountable, then what does a president have to do?

I really can't believe that Comey said that. Yeah, I think he needs to stay in the wings.

[aggiesal]

74. On top of your statement, pardoning Pendejo45 will allow him ...

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to skirt around prosecution of crimes, like he has done his whole life.
This will cement his legacy to the world that his criminal actions have no consequences.

Either we are a nation of laws or we are a Banana Republic. We can't be both.

[PatSeg]

81. "....like he has done his whole life."

Once again affirming that bad behavior is not only tolerated, it is rewarded. That certainly would sum up his entire life. Meanwhile, there are plenty of ambitious people out there, who would take that as confirmation that corruption in the pursuit of power is not only okay, but perhaps even preferred. I'm sure there are plenty of young Roger Stones and Steve Bannons out there waiting their turn.

[aggiesal]

100. Imagine if someone that has Pendejo45 flaws ...

but is charismatic and smart.
We would be in a world of hurt.

I thought that GW McIdiot was the village idiot,
but Pendejo45 makes McIdiot look like a statesman.

[Sanity Claws]

5. Comey should consider shutting up

[Dorn]

54. Agreed: Comey -- STFU

Why does anyone listen to Comey anymore

[Paper Roses]

134. Agree, this proposal is ridiculous. It is an insult to those of us who follow the law. n/t

[Eyeball_Kid]

6. Comey has shown periodic lapses in good, ethical, and professional judgment.

This moment is illustrative of his lapses.

Comey needs to just shut up and go home. Enough of his equivocating already.

[GeorgeGist]

7. Brilliant advice from a clown who got Trump elected.

[FailureToCommunicate]

8. Anyone who wanted to believe Comey was contrite about screwing Hillary's election

should read this nutty musing by him.

[Owl]

9. No way!

[HubertHeaver]

10. Yes, Biden should think about pardoning Trump.

Then laugh about it.

and, most importantly, forget about it.

[Captain Zero]

17. Only if Trump is bound to never running again for any public office.

does that work?

[niyad]

23. NO!!!!

[HubertHeaver]

32. I don't believe that would work.

Biden would have to stop laughing long enough to sign it.

[PatSeg]

35. Oh no, not enough

For the first time in his miserable life, Trump needs to be held accountable. No more sweeping corruption and crimes under the rug and moving on.

[Paper Roses]

135. No, tRump will go smiling into the sunset. No Pardon! n/t

[2naSalit]

11. Fuck that shit!

No fucking way. He should not be having interviews right now.

[Canoe52]

12. Geez Louise, he's as nutty as tRump!

[OhZone]

13. If there were more severe consequences for violating the Hatch Act -

Comey might still be in jail now.

[JohnnyRingo]

14. "Okay, I'll think about it..."

"No"

[eShirl]

15. what about the rest of the country's healing?

[Voltaire2]

16. Sometimes a broken clock is always wrong.

[mjvpi]

66. It's the digital version of an old truism

[BlueMTexpat]

18. STFU, Comey!

And no, until the RW starts recognizing accountability for its actions for the past several years, no pardons for anyone!

[Grokenstein]

19. Just in case you had any doubts about Comey's intelligence, loyalty or sincerity...

This should confirm them.

[exboyfil]

20. Neville Chamberlain coming back from Munich

Ford pardoning Nixon and setting up a bad precedent because it was the "compassionate" thing to do was one thing. He was defeated and wasn't coming back. Ford should have had him plead out the charges and go with some sort of home confinement.

Trump represents a continuing danger to the country. He is leading a right wing fascist movement, and there is only one way to stop a fascist. That is to punch them in the nose (metaphorically). They will not stop otherwise until they die.

[True Blue American]

90. Our long National nightmare

Is far from over.

As the General said to Jordan! Shut up!

[Raster]

21. How's that nausea, Jimmy?

Send any letter to Congress lately?

tRump* encouraged a VIOLENT MOB to overthrow the United States government, and you're thinking PARDON for tRump*?

Go away!!!

[bucolic_frolic]

22. That idea is so far out there

I can't imagine 10 people in the entire US originating that idea, so it must mean somebody has an agenda

[C_U_L8R]

25. Pardon him specifically for what?

Treason? Money laundering? Caging children?

[Jarqui]

26. Comey should email those thoughts to

Anthony Weiner's laptop

Maybe there, he'll find someone who cares about what he thinks.

Comey proves once again that his judgement is not the greatest.

[Gore1FL]

27. Consider it and reject it. nt

[treestar]

28. Seriously?

No way!

[wishstar]

29. This morning both Andrew McCabe on NBC and Alberto Gonzalez on CNN said absolutely NO to that

and we all know Biden and Harris would never consider pardoning someone who is a traitor and a terrorist and a seditionist and tried to take away our votes by violence.

[niyad]

47. Who in the hell dug up "I can't remember"/"I don't recall" gonzalez? And why??

[flibbitygiblets]

30. Comey should consider staying the F** K out of political conversations for life.

I think we've seen enough results of Mr. Comey's "considerations".

[Vogon_Glory]

31. Consider it, yes, then set it aside

for the good of the country. Donald Trump, assuming that Mitch McConnell and his Republican playmates decide to put the good of the country over that of the Republican Party, should remain in public disgrace and ineligible for elected office for the rest of his life.

[Firestorm49]

34. Bullshit. Comey's a good part of the reason that we're in this mess.

I bought his book, read it and believed much of it, but he’s still a Republican.

Forgiveness, f____k NO! Very strong examples need to be made of the insurrectionists and those elected leaders who were complicit. They need to fully understand that a free and democratic democracy has no place for them or their actions.

Forgiveness? Never.

[George II]

36. That's insane. If Biden pardoned him that would be an instant Democratic loss in 2024.....

Has he forgotten about Gerald Ford?

[blueinredohio]

37. He's full of shit!

[IronLionZion]

38. Oh hell no. Biden better not be Mr. Nice Guy

He can think about and then ask his VP what she thinks and see how hard she laughs.

Pardoning Trump encourages more of this type of behavior from Republicans.

[Texin]

39. Pardoning Hair Hitler wont absolve YOU, Jimbo. Yeah, no. No pardons for either of you.

That is, unless they could talk Pence into doing it.

[Paladin]

40. Fuck you DEAD, Comey. Your true colors are showing. (nt)

[BlueIdaho]

41. The Monkey in the Middle

Comey managed to betray Democrats and piss off Republicans. For the life of me - I don’t know why anyone would listen to him.

[Joinfortmill]

42. Comey should just shut up.

[FreepFryer]

43. Responsive, reactive, driven by fear. (Nt)

[Marthe48]

44. No pardon

No matter what prominent voices say.

Let the legal and justice professionals and governmental at all levels investigate and let them decide how to close this sad chapter.

[FreepFryer]

45. PS White privilege is a hell of a drug. (Nt)

[FreepFryer]

46. Oh wait hey isn't a pardon inapplicable in crimes that underlie cases of impeachment?

Experts, if u wanna advise feel free, otherwise I’ll figure it out

[amb123]

48. It's official. Comey's Crazy.

Faith in American Democracy will never be fully restored until Trump is behind bars and those Senators and Congress members who STILL support that traitor are either recalled or voted out of office.

We don't coddle Fascists, we defeat them.

[malthaussen]

49. Why should I or anyone care what a washed-up has been...

... who never was thinks about anything? Why should the media give space to his deluded ramblings? Why should a publisher issue a book of his pontifications?

And why should DU perpetuate it by posting his bullshit as if it mattered one damn?

-- Mal

[Aristus]

50. That's Comey speak for " I hope has a single term, like Gerald Ford."

Fuck you, Comey…

[marble falls]

51. I consider wearing speedos. But in consideration of the damage to society, I just don't do it.

[niyad]

138. And society applauds you for that consideration.

[marble falls]

142. They do. They let me run free as long I don't scare the horses or young children. But ...

a Speedo is clearly off the table.

[niyad]

146. The question mark was a typo, but your answer was great!

[cstanleytech]

52. Hell no!!! If he did it I would probably switch to supporting a Democratic

challenger for the 2024 nomination.

[C Moon]

53. If he's thinking that will help heal the country,

he’s nuts! We need to be a different party now.
No more give aways to the GOP.

[Escurumbele]

55. Is there something Comey has not told us? Did he comply with republican requests when he

"re-opened" Clinton's email case? What are you afraid of Comey?

Yes, Comey should shut up, he sounds like he is guilty of something...or his pretending to have principles was just an act.

[Jay25]

58. Yeah, something's off here.

[samsingh]

56. comey was key in putting us in this mess. Why won't he just leave?

[Jay25]

57. WTF

Is he trying to sabotage Biden? An idiot would know that a pardon of Trump would piss off the majority of those that put Biden in office. Seems like he’s pandering to the white nationalists.

[debsy]

59. Comey should sit the F*** down and STFU!

He has done enough damage to our country. Biden should pardon COMEY for being such a douche!

[Jon King]

60. No, Biden and every American should hope all Trumps rot in jail...

Biden should pursue his agenda but hope like every American patriot that everything Trump is utterly destroyed and he rots away in jail. You do not try to heal Trumpers, you grow more powerful and work like hell to crush them.

[wiggs]

61. I bet he means that Biden should use the pardon as a bargaining chip with

the senate gop. and possibly to keep trump under control during the next week.

I doubt Comey has any sympathy for Trump, doubt he wants a pardon granted...just suggests a 'potential pardon' may provide some 'focus'. Just as a Biden AG and administration and dem subpoena power will provide some gop 'focus' pretty soon.

I hope Biden and his advisors have elbows sharp enough to gain the upper hand in negotiations.

I certainly don't want a pardon for Trump, especially for the most egregious misdeeds...but don't mind Biden using the potential as incentive...and don't mind pardons for minor transgressions in case of substantial benefit to the administration's objectives. Pardons for Russia/Ukraine conspiracies, pardons for coup attempts, pardons for election cheating including Georgia arm-bending? No way...but there could be pardons for a variety of more minor things such as Hatch violations. Only if it helps move legislation and nominees forward

[Nasruddin]

62. Yes, If ...

If he has a ton of spies, moles, & fellow travelers to give up, that we can verify, turn or neutralize, or use in some other leverage against whomever we need to.

Otherwise he's not worth a second's thought. Not even compassionate release commutation. Should it come to that of course.

[DallasNE]

63. HELL NO

Ford pardoning of Nixon opened the door for the next Nixon or worse. It turned out worse. And this coming from the guy that had an email backup file and announced to the world he was reopening the email investigation against Hillary Clinton just 8 days before the 2016 election. More Comey bad judgement.

[robleb]

64. Comey

is full of shit and should never had been leading the FBI

[pecosbob]

65. Time for my 'f*ck that' GIF

?itemid=10486734

[niyad]

140. LOVE that movie!

[CentralMass]

67. His advice and a dime are worth 10 cents. That seals my opinon of Comey.

This was an act of sedition that tRump orchestrated. There is no sweeping this under the rug.

[iluvtennis]

68. Comey has LOST IT. No way, no how should Biden pardon this madman. nt

[DinahMoeHum]

69. Up Yours, James Comey.

Get the fuck out of lives.

[cab67]

70. Yeah, because that worked so well in 1974.

And in 1989. And 2009. Ford, Bush Sr., and Obama all decided it was best to just look forward and not focus on the past for the sake of healing.

Everyone learned their lessons, I suppose. Just not the lessons intended.

Besides - isn't holding people accountable for an assault on the Capitol something that's going to matter?

[NEOBuckeye]

71. Trump fucked Comey over big time. Is he really wanting to let him off the hook now? n/t

[Nitram]

72. Bullshit!

Comey likes Trump more than he hates Clinton.

[Rebl2]

73. Please Comey

Just go away. You are a nobody now and what you think does not matter.

[TryLogic]

75. Now we know. Comey is some sort of pandering idiot.

[infullview]

76. NFW what an asshole!

[hatrack]

77. World's Tallest Boy Scout needs to have a seat

STFU, clown.

[Lulu KC]

78. Who asked you, Comey? n/t

[ashredux]

79. Comey who?

[twodogsbarking]

80. Should he also be buried at

Arlington, Mr. Comey?

[bucolic_frolic]

82. You already pardoned Trump, Jim! In October 2016, remember?

It's you who want a pardon because you know the impact you had. Otherwise you wouldn't float nonsense like this.

[Hiawatha Pete]

83. More proof he was an accomplice in the swiftboating of Hillary in 2016 n/t

[MRDAWG]

84. Pardon him so he can run again in 2004? **

?

[Oscarthegreat]

85. Being a polite person, I'll be restrained in my response

Fuck you James Tomey, you two faced hypocrite.

[Initech]

86. Hell no!!! Throw the damn book at him!

He cannot be allowed to get away with what happened at the Capitol. He just simply cannot.

And it's also time the MAGA brand is made as toxic as the NAZI brand.

[Upthevibe]

87. Ummmmm.......

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mnhtnbb]

88. Why don't you go Cheney yourself, Comey?

[Alpeduez21]

89. I didn't think he'd be more of an ass but there you go n/t

[El Mimbreno]

91. Constitution says:

Constitution, Art. II, Sec. 2, Cl. 1:

"The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

Nuf said.

[scarletwoman]

92. Go home, Jim, you're drunk.

[orleans]

93. omg! stfu james! n/t

[Ponietz]

94. Comey didn't handle menopause well

[Baitball Blogger]

95. This is so mentally sick, on so many levels.

I'm convinced that Comey thinks he still has power to influence the highest levels of power. He has learned nothing from his participation in the 2016 election mess. At a minimum, he should show some intelligence by remaining quiet.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

96. STFU Comey. You are less than irrelevant. nt

[sakabatou]

97. No way in hell.

[marlakay]

98. I sincerely hope Joe doesn't listen

To this guy or anyone like him. We need accountability!

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

99. Like I rely on Mr. Comeys' judgement

after the server incident. Stick to being a cop, James, leave the political strategy to others............

[Miguelito Loveless]

101. Hey, Mr. Law Enforcement

Biden cannot pardon Trump.

"[The President] shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

[padah513]

104. FTW!!!

Thank you. I was sitting here getting more and more pissed.

[Miguelito Loveless]

151. Always happy to lower someone's blood pressure

[abakan]

102. Hey Comey !

Your time is up, you have no credibility or influence, so please keep what you think to yourself.
We all know you are a POS.

[Marrah_Goodman]

103. OH HELL NO

[srose58089]

105. Accountability is needed not a pardon

Pardoning tRump and the Senate not convicting on impeachment would guarantee his return in 2024. America would be torn apart. And Comey next time you appear on a TV show consider wearing duct tape over your mouth

[jmowreader]

106. Pardon the guy who tried to get his own VP killed?

Somehow I don’t think “making the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers happy” is on Biden’s agenda.

Better idea: we air all Trump’s crimes and force the people who voted for that prick come to terms with what they did to this nation. Most of Trump’s voters have absolutely no idea what a thug he is. It’s time they learned. After they do, “Hang The Bastard” from Cannibal The Musical will become the most popular song in America.

[PatrickforO]

107. WHY on earth would Biden even consider pardoning Trump?

I think it will be a cold day in hell before that happens.

[PurgedVoter]

108. Comey needs to shut up and go away

Politically, that would not make even one Republican cooperate with anything a week later. It would piss off all of us that risked our health voting. Does Comey take his orders from the Kremlin? Comey is beyond loony. Someone investigate Comey's income. Someone else check Comey's meds.

Trump needs to prosecuted. Q needs to be rooted out. Everyone associated with Fox needs a serious investigation.

I am all for positive thoughts but at this point, without surgery the patient is going to die.

[zentrum]

109. WTF is wrong

…..with this man?

He has the analysis ability of a sack of socks.

[keithbvadu2]

111. The Romney who gave up her family name for Trump

Link to tweet

/photo/1

Did not read Comey’s book

[heckles65]

112. I distinctly remember my barber the week before the election...

telling me "Didya hear? Comey reopened the investigation!" While not entirely true, it occurred to me at the time, how many other people in how many other's barber's chairs were hearing the same thing?

So now Comey's saying, "Yeah, I helped put him into the Oval Office with my strategically timed press release. But then he fired me, so I suffered too. All Biden has to do is pardon Trump and everyone will just forget the past four years like that bad season of 'Dallas' which was just in Pam's head. Sound good?"

[lark]

113. OK it's official, Comey is every bit as bad as we first thought with the HRC emails.

He is constantly putting Repug party over country and has never stopped.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

114. WORST IDEA in the world!

Ever.

[hkp11]

115. no way

he let Drumpf win by publicly stating they were investigating Hillary's emails.

If he wants the nation to heal, then he should ask for Repukes & Buffoon to tell the truth about the Nov 2020 election and the truth about Coronavirus.

[keithbvadu2]

116. Shut up Comey.

Shut up Comey. You betrayed both sides and burned your bridges in both directions. Your words are meaningless.

[usaf-vet]

117. Really? Is Comey Schizophrenic? I can't seem to figure where he is coming from.

Nothing IMHO is going to prevent Trump from being Trump. No act of mercy or kindness will be seen for what it is.

HE IS NARCISSTIC! He will see it as a "natural " entitlement.

Jail won't change who he is but it will LIMIT his public appearance which again IMHO is the most beneficial to the country's healing.

[yaesu]

118. I think this is just another statement by Commie Comey that proves he should be investigated for

helping tRump win in '16.

[Swamp Country Po Boy]

120. SHUT THE FUCK UP, JIMMY

Like you should have stfu in October of 2016, you goddam imbecile!

[AllaN01Bear]

121. not. hem.

[TygrBright]

126. Comey should consider keeping his pie hole shut. n/t

[rdking647]

127. comy the only person to piss off the left and right

[samnsara]

128. this must have been the post hubby was referring to this morning when he asked me if I thought

...biden should pardon trump and I replied loudly ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND? He said Well I read it on DU.

[Javaman]

130. comey, you're fucking less than worthless.nt

[cp]

131. Go away

No one should ever book that sanctimonious schmuck on any media.

NO fucking pardon for treason and betrayal of our country to Russia or the multitudes of other crimes Dumpy has committed. Let him die in prison, if not sooner.

[MontanaMama]

132. NFW.

Absolutely not. Who is listening to this sanctimonious POS? None of us should. Of course the source is "The Hill"...or as I like to call it, The Shill.

[andym]

133. After trials and convictions for Trump's federal crimes, Joe can consider pardoning

as long as Trump agrees to admit his guilt and state that there was no election fraud to boot!!!

After all, Trump should already be in NY state prison by then, so it's not like he will be getting off scot-free.
It will be consistent with Joe's unity talk, and Trump will still be in jail if he hasn't fled the country.

[Lock him up.]

144. There's also the calls recorded on TAPE in Georgia in which "it" treathened elected officials...

Methinks they will want to get "it" in their own jails from time to time.

*it = oRange mob boss

[strongermessage]

136. President Biden should pardon Comey's stupidity.

[Hekate]

137. Okay. Done. Decision: No Pardon

[Traildogbob]

141. Go away

Comey has as much clout with Democratic Leadership as Newt Gangrenewhitch.

[LiberalLovinLug]

143. Here We Go.

The beginning of the trial balloon first.

Then the MSM will be "seriously" talking about how Democrats are "seriously" discussing it.

Then "moderate" Republicans will meet with Joe Manchin and the other "moderate" Democrats and come out of the meeting with a consensus that they've figured it all out and the best thing to heal the country is for a full pardon for the traitorous Baby King.

[CaptainTruth]

145. Comey should consider shutting up.

[bdamomma]

147. huh???

No. The Senate can easily remove from power if McConnell said yes. If they could push in Amy Phoney Barrett 3 days before an election to the SC they can do this.

[BamaRefugee]

148. Comey desperate to make sure hid under the table money from the right wing keeps coming in.

That mortgage ain't gonna pay itself!

[Music Man]

149. Dafuq?

[SunSeeker]

150. FUCK YOU, COMEY!

Comey, you sanctimonious asshole, are more responsible than any other single person for handing the presidency to Trump!

[Cha]

153. Comey.. you don't really "Think", do you?

GFY.

[Evolve Dammit]

154. NO. You have no credibility after what you did just before the election. Idiot.

[jb5150]

155. If Comey had done his fucking job ..

we wouldn't be in this situation.

[bluestateboomer]

156. NOT THIS TIME!

[athenasatanjesus]

157. If the roles were reversed would anyone be saying Trump should pardon Biden?

Or Obama or Hillary ect...ect.

[ashredux]

158. Shut the Fuck Up

[Jarqui]

159. This still irritates me

I posted before.

We made this mistake with Nixon.

If you do not want this to happen again, you finish the job.
You make Trump pay big time to discourage those in the future.

This pardon garbage has helped Trump act with impunity.
It needs to stop.

[lagomorph777]

160. Biden should consider investigating Comey for complicity.

[Skittles]

161. says the man who practically handed him the presidency

GO FUCK YOURSELF

[VladmireTrumpkins]

162. Just lost any support I ever had for him

[twin_ghost]

163. Biden should Absolute Not pardon Trump

[Sophiegirl]

164. No!

NO FUCKING WAY!!!!!!

[karin_sj]

165. No way in hell!

He needs to keep his opinions to himself. He's done enough harm.

[Cobalt Violet]

166. time to trash this thread.

Nothing personal at all but every time I refresh I see it and I can't take it anymore more.

[AirmensMom]

167. Comey can shut his yap.

If not for him, we wouldn't have been in this fucking nightmare.

[h2ebits]

168. I am beside myself with anger at Comey

NO, NO, NO--Biden should not pardon Trump. He needs to be prosecuted by an International Tribunal, as well as, the United States Government, and any State that has the goods on him.

[Don1]

169. I am 80% okay with Biden _considering_ it.

I don't have a problem with someone thinking of the sentiment that we need to try to pull the country together. And then for that person to try to think outside the box of ways that that could be done. In this case, such sentiment could lead one get an idea in their head to evaluate and consider such as a pardon.

But after that, they need to disqualify such idea because it is ultimately not a good thing for several reasons. One problem is that it would solidify a precedent of future Presidents pardoning past Presidents so if the President's VP takes office for whatever reason (like with Nixon and Ford), an ally or passive accomplice of a VP (like Pence) could pardon their boss. Then, in the specific case of Trump, he's got blood on his hands and has done tremendous damage to the country, not just for the insurrection, but for all the neglect of his office and propagandizing everything leading to people not wearing masks and getting others sick--he's just unworthy. President Trump is the poster boy for a President deserving of impeachment and consequences from trial.

Finally, I don't even think that complete unity is really a worthwhile goal. Do we really want unity with some of these types of people? I don't think so. The country would do well with trying to work with some Republicans...like say Kasich who do not condone violence. But there is a serious problem in the US right now of propaganda and a giant infrastructure that Trump helped to extend and magnify.

It needs to break. It cannot break if we sweep it all under the rug. Over time, the impeachment and trial need to propagate. People need to see the level of misinformation and how the Republican Party, OAN, QAnon, tabloid news, even conservative preachers like Ted Cruz's father all play a role in screwing over the country. Republicans need to go through their 4 stages of grief and come to acceptance of One Reality and that they've been bamboozled.

At the end of the day, it is okay to think about decisions and weigh consequences. A pardon is a very bad idea after thinking about it.

[Karma13612]

170. No I say!!

In fact,

H*LL NO!!

[bringthePaine]

171. who cares what that coward says? can we please delete the shitheel from our discourse? please??

[jayfish]

172. A Useful Idiot.

...for both sides.

[FreepFryer]

173. MAGA fans would surely be touched, come to their senses, and seek unity.

Are you fucking kidding me?

[tavernier]

174. So that went well.

[TexasBushwhacker]

175. Coney should consider STFU