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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,378 posts)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:43 AM Jan 2021

Man Who Allegedly Threw Fire Extinguisher at Police Arrested on Federal Charges

Source: The Wall Street Journal.

1 hour ago

Man Who Allegedly Threw Fire Extinguisher at Police Arrested on Federal Charges

By Aruna Viswanatha and Erin Ailworth

A retired firefighter from Pennsylvania was arrested Thursday morning for allegedly throwing a fire extinguisher that hit three police officers at the pro-Trump riot at the U.S. Capitol as captured on video, U.S. officials said.

Robert Sanford of Chester, Pa., faces three federal felony charges including assaulting a police officer after he was allegedly identified as the person who lobbed a fire extinguisher on the west side of the Capitol, at around 2:30 pm, as the mob crashed past a thin line of Capitol police officers and stormed towards the building on Jan. 6.

Around the same time, a radio dispatch captured by OpenMHZ, a platform that records radio chatter from law enforcement and life- safety services agencies, relayed an emergency code: "There is a 10-33 at the Capitol building. It has been breached." The 10-33 code signifies an emergency in which an officer needs assistance.

The extinguisher that Mr. Sanford allegedly threw is separate from the one that killed Officer Brian Sicknick, who was also struck in the head with a fire extinguisher during the unrest and died from his wounds, officials said. (1)

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(1) https://www.wsj.com/articles/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-dies-of-injuries-sustained-at-riot-11610121907

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-impeachment-house-biden/card/jjabJi3k3h0KAkxYDoWY



https://twitter.com/aviswanatha
aruna.viswanatha@wsj.com

https://twitter.com/ailworth
erin.ailworth@wsj.com

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A retired firefighter from #Pennsylvania arrested this morning for allegedly throwing a fire extinguisher that hit three police officers during the #CapitolSiege.


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Man Who Allegedly Threw Fire Extinguisher at Police Arrested on Federal Charges (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2021 OP
Irony isn't dead exboyfil Jan 2021 #1
Ikr! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #6
Sure it's not karma with a jacked up sense of humor. IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #23
Also a career government employee protesting about how bad government employees are. grantcart Jan 2021 #42
How does WSJ know that's not the incident that killed Officer Sicknick? sinkingfeeling Jan 2021 #2
Probably happened in a different location, with reliable witnesses. BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #8
There is video of the throwing incident. NT enough Jan 2021 #16
From the article: mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2021 #19
My mind seems to be rejecting the idea that it hang on to the details from that day. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #32
I wonder if the CFD logo on his cap helped investigators BeyondGeography Jan 2021 #3
That's another retired firefighter from Chicago. marble falls Jan 2021 #4
That hasn't been verified BeyondGeography Jan 2021 #9
paywall. AllaN01Bear Jan 2021 #31
That guy was wrongly identified. LisaL Jan 2021 #11
For some reason, RW'ers REALLY seem to have a need... ret5hd Jan 2021 #7
They can't comment on your post until they get back from the boat parade...:) dameatball Jan 2021 #26
Maybe the have no self identity. Except they were promised___, and have been wronged. n/t Jetheels Jan 2021 #36
The last tome the right had uniforms, christx30 Jan 2021 #37
All the Trump BS these jerks spit into their neighbors & family for four years is ... marble falls Jan 2021 #5
Good news, this was one arrest that was imperative. Bev54 Jan 2021 #10
Yep, considering the guy had his last name on the back of his hat. LisaL Jan 2021 #12
Don't you just wonder how these people even survive through life? Bev54 Jan 2021 #14
I dunno. LisaL Jan 2021 #17
With teeth, too. Odd. mahina Jan 2021 #59
The cfd guy is someone else. See up thread. niyad Jan 2021 #27
No, the guy arrested is the guy wearing a CFD hat. LisaL Jan 2021 #33
Here's my Philly paper's article (Philadelphia Inquirer) BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #13
"Lobbing" greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #38
Yet yesterday in a recorded video, trump said ppl who support his "movement" aren't violent. Keep iluvtennis Jan 2021 #15
Oh. So that is a defining characteristic of his "movement," is it? BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #34
I hope they see some prison time for this still_one Jan 2021 #18
The most sickening crimes serve a dual purpose nam78_two Jan 2021 #43
Video of the fire extingusiher being trhown at the police iluvtennis Jan 2021 #20
There was a Rebl2 Jan 2021 #21
Another fool, retired with a pension, could have lived out his days in comfort. But no... Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #22
It's incredible greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #39
Wow. I certainly hope he does more than several. Didn't one of those officers die from his injuries? C Moon Jan 2021 #47
No, none of these particular officers died greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #48
Okay. Thanks! C Moon Jan 2021 #50
I should have read the article. :D Just did now. C Moon Jan 2021 #55
Photo (graphic warning?) Auggie Jan 2021 #24
This is apparently a different terrorist. niyad Jan 2021 #28
You seem to be confused. LisaL Jan 2021 #35
No, this is him greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #40
What has happened here is that the "CFD" was attributed to "Chicago FD" and it's "Chester FD" BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #53
Where do they find these bright people, such masters of disguise bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #25
... masters of disguise IcyPeas Jan 2021 #51
I actually meant fireman carrying a fire extinguisher, but that's ok /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #54
This is why it is important not to jump to conclusions while sleuthing on the Internet.. okojo Jan 2021 #29
I didn't think they were a good match. LisaL Jan 2021 #41
I just wonder why we see firefighters and police Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2021 #30
Male authority figures in f'n charge, mister! nt Mopar151 Jan 2021 #45
Lots of angry white guys in that area.... Jon King Jan 2021 #44
They are everywhere reader1 Jan 2021 #49
Let Trump try to pardon this ahole. C Moon Jan 2021 #46
Life in prison !! VladmireTrumpkins Jan 2021 #52
It is still hard to fathom how many cops, fire-fighters, military were SO f'in brainwashed by a cult Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #56
Lock Him Up ! colsohlibgal Jan 2021 #57
"He doesn't know what they're talking about" dalton99a Jan 2021 #58

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
1. Irony isn't dead
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jan 2021

He is a retired firefighter. The gods are trolling us. First it was the woman trampled the death while hold a Don't Tread on Me flag and now this.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,378 posts)
19. From the article:
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:13 PM
Jan 2021
Robert Sanford of Chester, Pa., faces three federal felony charges including assaulting a police officer after he was allegedly identified as the person who lobbed a fire extinguisher on the west side of the Capitol, at around 2:30 pm, as the mob crashed past a thin line of Capitol police officers and stormed towards the building on Jan. 6.

This incident occurred on the west front of the Capitol, at around 2:30 p.m. I do not know where Officer Sicknick was, but presumably his injuries were inflicted at some other location and at some other time.

The reporters were working from police reports.

Thanks for writing.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
32. My mind seems to be rejecting the idea that it hang on to the details from that day.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jan 2021

Most of it is now a horrible, gelatinous goo of pictures of awful behaviour....but I'm pretty sure Officer Sicknick was murdered indoors. This account of this crime seems pretty definitively to have occurred outdoors.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
9. That hasn't been verified
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:03 PM
Jan 2021

Here’s a report from yesterday’s Tribune:

Langford also said the department is aware of some amateur attempts at identifying the man circulating on the Internet. One in particular posted the photo of a retired department member, and Langford said that was not the person seen in the image being used by investigators.

Langford also said the “CFD” initials on the knit hat in the photo in question are not the official logo used by the department.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-capitol-riot-cfd-hat-guy-20210113-55nrwqfghvchtmtmejsaeom3xm-story.html

ret5hd

(20,489 posts)
7. For some reason, RW'ers REALLY seem to have a need...
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:01 PM
Jan 2021

to visibly identify with groups (even if said group has nothing to do with the subject at hand): this guy with his cap, PB’s with their polo shirts, the tiki torches gala, bikers with all their “regalia”, gun nuts with all the camo, etc etc etc.

I was a proud Union member for 30+ years...I wore a union cap and/or a union t-shirt when going to a union meeting, sometimes to work if that’s what I had clean. But that wasn’t my life’s “uniform”.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
37. The last tome the right had uniforms,
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jan 2021

they were designed by Hugo Boss. Gotta recapture the magic.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
5. All the Trump BS these jerks spit into their neighbors & family for four years is ...
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:58 AM
Jan 2021

... coming home to roost.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
12. Yep, considering the guy had his last name on the back of his hat.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:05 PM
Jan 2021

He had CFD on the front, Sanford on the back.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
17. I dunno.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:11 PM
Jan 2021

The cop that got hit by the fire extinguisher was wearing a helmet, which is what likely saved his life.

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
13. Here's my Philly paper's article (Philadelphia Inquirer)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:07 PM
Jan 2021

This is a different guy from whoever killed Sicknick. However his throw injured some officers.

Retired Delco firefighter accused of lobbing fire extinguisher that injured officers during Capitol attack

by Jeremy Roebuck, Posted: 19 minutes ago
Retired Delco firefighter accused of lobbing fire extinguisher that injured officers during Capitol attack
JESSICA GRIFFIN / Staff Photographer


A retired firefighter from Delaware County was arrested Thursday for lobbing a fire extinguisher that hit three police officers during the insurrectionist riot at the U.S. Capitol last week, federal authorities said.

Robert Sanford faces federal felony charges including assaulting a police officer. The projectile he is accused of throwing was not the one that killed Police Officer Brian Sicknick, who was also struck in the head by a fire extinguisher during the melee and later died from his wounds, authorities said.

Investigators said Sanford was identified from video taken at the scene showing him throwing the fire extinguisher around 2:30 p.m. as the pro-Trump mob breached the Capitol building’s west side.

Sanford is scheduled to make his first appearance in federal court in Philadelphia Thursday afternoon and will later be transferred to Washington, where his case is being prosecuted. It was not immediately clear whether he had retained an attorney.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/brian-sanford-capitol-riot-arrests-attack-trump-delaware-county-fire-extinguisher-20210114.html

iluvtennis

(19,844 posts)
15. Yet yesterday in a recorded video, trump said ppl who support his "movement" aren't violent. Keep
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:09 PM
Jan 2021

investigating FBI/others, there is so much to uncover about the siege on the US Capitol.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
34. Oh. So that is a defining characteristic of his "movement," is it?
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:38 PM
Jan 2021

Is this a pledge you take when entering into that midden pit, or is it applied retroactively, when needed?

And when I read or hear words like "his movement," it's not a paramilitary, fringe-political type of "movement" that comes to mind.

nam78_two

(14,529 posts)
43. The most sickening crimes serve a dual purpose
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 02:08 PM
Jan 2021

From fiction like The Handmaid's Tale to real news stories imvolving regimes where women have no actual rights:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbeting

https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/stoning-afghanistan-graphic-video-execution-shows-talibans-growing/story?id=12770754

https://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/08/world/asia/afghanistan-public-execution/index.html

Btw I am far from an Islamphobe -l don't get religion..these examples were chosen at random.
These are regimes that have been more successful than the Gilead of THT. If you read forums of extremists-incels, neo nazis, hindu supremacists etc., death and rape threats are common. Ethnorape is a theme..sick. Women's rights has really pissed them off. And the range or female personality is an enigma to people of this type.

It is not melodramatic at this point to say that these mass executions, violence like this etc. are intended to frighten people..it has use as propaganda as much as the actual violence has purpose. And I don't study these things or have expertise in them. I merely know how they affect the naturally fearful of a different kind. Not the kind who get guns and build walls and so on but who respond by leading lives of quiet desparation (well less quiet in this case) and are certain that a by the book shrink would prescribe anxiety meds and classify them a nutter merely for actually recognizing the scariness of world events.

Rebl2

(13,484 posts)
21. There was a
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jan 2021

lengthy article a few weeks ago in The Kansas City Star about racism and harassment of women regarding the KCFD. It is supposedly going to be investigated by the Kansas City city council.

Midnight Writer

(21,738 posts)
22. Another fool, retired with a pension, could have lived out his days in comfort. But no...
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 12:49 PM
Jan 2021

He listened to FOX, OAN, Newsmax, Hate Radio, the President, whatever, and decided to throw away his life.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
39. It's incredible
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:51 PM
Jan 2021

There's a reasonably good chance that nobody is going to give a shit about Donald Trump two months from now, but this deplorable jackass will be dealing with a federal charge that could land him in a federal penitentiary for several years. Retired with a pension, not a care in the damn world, and this is his life now, being transported to a Washington DC federal facility to answer to charges of assaulting a police officer, and the humiliation of being this guy. Incredible what these people did to their lives over a no account scumbag like Trump.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
47. Wow. I certainly hope he does more than several. Didn't one of those officers die from his injuries?
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 02:41 PM
Jan 2021

I don't know the laws, but I would hope it would be more like 20 years to life.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
35. You seem to be confused.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:38 PM
Jan 2021

This is the guy they arrested.

"CHESTER, Pennsylvania (WPVI) -- A retired firefighter from Chester, Pennsylvania is accused of being the man seen on video throwing a fire extinguisher that hit three police officers at the Capitol during the riot in Washington, D.C. last week."

https://6abc.com/capitol-riot-arrest-fire-extinguisher-thrown-washington-video-robert-sanford/9653742/

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
53. What has happened here is that the "CFD" was attributed to "Chicago FD" and it's "Chester FD"
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:55 PM
Jan 2021

as in the city of Chester, PA, which is in Delaware County PA, And that is the guy in this case.

It's odd that he does look like a retired Chicago FD worker.



Chester is along the Delaware River just south of Philly and has refineries plus makes Scott's toilet paper!

IcyPeas

(21,856 posts)
51. ... masters of disguise
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:47 PM
Jan 2021

yes, they made a mistake by not covering their faces..... I worry that next time (inaugurations?) they will all dress like antifa then they won't be recognized.

okojo

(76 posts)
29. This is why it is important not to jump to conclusions while sleuthing on the Internet..
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:24 PM
Jan 2021

If you look at the photo, and other photos of the retired Chicago Fireman, one would think they are a pretty good match. In reality, they are not. It is better to be prudent than jump to conclusions. I for one, thought the retired fireman in Chicago fit the photo at the capitol pretty well.

My qualms that the piping on the Beanie's lettering doesn't match beanies for the Chicago Fire Dept. the capitol hill photo, showed a smaller guy less gray in his goatee..

In the end, I was wrong.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
41. I didn't think they were a good match.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:55 PM
Jan 2021

The wrongly identified (by the internets) guy from Chicago was pretty tall and big, with huge hands. The one from Chester, who is arrested, not so much.
Regarding the hat, I don't think the hat is an official hat for either fire department. It's sold by numerous websites. The letters are supposed to represent Chicago Fire Department, but obviously anybody could buy it, and wear it.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,563 posts)
30. I just wonder why we see firefighters and police
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jan 2021

in the crowd. Those jobs are a demonstration of 'socialism' in action. from a funding point of view.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
44. Lots of angry white guys in that area....
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 02:29 PM
Jan 2021

Used to run a business in that area. Chester is mostly African American and the white guys who remain in the surrounding areas are pretty nasty dudes. This guy looks like a walking road rage maniac.

reader1

(55 posts)
49. They are everywhere
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jan 2021

especially from middle aged to older white guys who listen to propagandist like Rush Limbaugh. This also make them easy candidates to be indoctrinated and a propensity become terrorist.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
56. It is still hard to fathom how many cops, fire-fighters, military were SO f'in brainwashed by a cult
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:16 PM
Jan 2021

to participate in a bloodlust riot for an orange con artist, mob boss traitor. Decades of FOX, Limbaugh, Ingraham got them, their friends, their co-workers and their family to this point, willingly. Behold the power of constant propaganda (ie. "alternative facts" otherwise known as lies by anyone capable of critical thinking).

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
57. Lock Him Up !
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:15 PM
Jan 2021

Heading to Prison for being seriously gullible just like many of these losers.

The old saying applies here as in everyone is entitled to their own opinions just not their own set of facts.

These miscreants should crack open a book or two.

dalton99a

(81,432 posts)
58. "He doesn't know what they're talking about"
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 09:46 PM
Jan 2021
Sanford was identified as the man in question after one of his friends recognized him from the released photos. Sanford was identified on Tuesday to the FBI's Pennsylvania outpost before being charged on Wednesday in US District Court, CNN reports.

On Thursday, Chester mayor Thaddeus Kirkland released a statement noting that Sanford is no longer an employee of the city, as he retired last year: "...While Robert Sanford adorned a hat with a Fire Department logo, he is not a current employee of the city of Chester."

Sanford made his initial appearance in a federal court in Pennsylvania on Thursday afternoon, the Morning Call reports. He was denied release and will now stay in custody of the U.S. Marshals until he is moved to D.C.

While executing a search warrant of Sanford's Pennsylvania home, authorities allegedly found a tee shirt linked with the far-right group Proud Boys, 6ABC reports.

Sanford claims he doesn't own a Proud Boys t-shirt, his attorney Enrique Latoison noted after Thursday's hearing. "He's not involved in any white supremacist organization whatsoever and he doesn't know what they're talking about," Latoison said, the Morning Call reports, though Latoison admitted his client had taken a free bus trip to the pro-Trump rally in D.C. on January 6.

https://people.com/crime/retired-firefighter-who-allegedly-threw-fire-extinguisher-at-capitol-police-is-arrested/
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