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riversedge

(69,716 posts)
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:13 PM Jan 2021

NYT: Trump Had To Be Dissuaded From Dropping In On His Own Impeachment

Source: TPM






January 14, 2021 9:55 a.m.


President Donald Trump had to be dissuaded from appearing in person as the House began its proceedings and ultimately voted to impeach him a second time, The New York Times reported late Wednesday.

Advisers told the Times that Trump had to be talked out of going to the House chamber to offer up excuses after he incited a riot at the U.S. Capitol last week.

As lawmakers cast their impeachment votes on Wednesday, an official said that the President instead busied himself by awarding medals to performers such as Toby Keith and Kay Coles James, the president of the Heritage Foundation.

The scene of a president eager to justify his action as “totally appropriate” — as he did to reporters on Tuesday– echoed a similarly defiant Trump who wanted to make an appearance during his first impeachment in December 2019, advisers told the Times.

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geez, that would have been a scene.






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WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 12: U.S. President Donald Trump walks to Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House on January 12, 2021 in Washington, DC. Following last week's deadly pro-Trump riot on Capitol Hill, President Trump is making his first public appearance on Tuesday as he makes a trip to the border town of Alamo, Texas to view the partial construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)
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NYT: Trump Had To Be Dissuaded From Dropping In On His Own Impeachment (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2021 OP
That would be like appearing at your own Grand Jury Hearing. no_hypocrisy Jan 2021 #1
He really IS as dense as cement and as dumb as a box of hair. Guilded Lilly Jan 2021 #2
Any president needs to be nykym Jan 2021 #3
Is it bad of me to wish he had done it? Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #4
Me too. GeorgeGist Jan 2021 #9
It would have been hilarious, I think! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #12
Yep. Like a SNL skit. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #13
Exactly Auggie Jan 2021 #19
That's what I'm thinking. Surreal as can be. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #41
That be cray cray LeftInTX Jan 2021 #5
Just the thought of this is cringeworthy. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #6
6 more fucking days.... dhill926 Jan 2021 #7
It is 5 days, 16 hours, 53 minutes, 59 seconds Botany Jan 2021 #29
I feel better with every passing minute.... dhill926 Jan 2021 #40
Someone has got to do a video of "Proud to be an American" exboyfil Jan 2021 #8
I would love to watch that. tinymontgomery Jan 2021 #22
What, he thought he would 'win them over' with his charm? louis-t Jan 2021 #10
Intimidation. Mme. Defarge Jan 2021 #16
More like, "They are not going to be talking about ME without LuckyLib Jan 2021 #23
Play victim when they wouldn't let him in sweetloukillbot Jan 2021 #33
Bummer. That would have been priceless! No way he could have kept his shit together. brewens Jan 2021 #11
Too bad. Behind the Aegis Jan 2021 #14
Another medal? For the Heritage Foundation? JohnnyRingo Jan 2021 #15
It's a real shame he didn't. Borderer Jan 2021 #17
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HIM EXPLAIN Jimvanhise Jan 2021 #18
Nancy would have, with the utmost dignity, handed him his ass, Marie Marie Jan 2021 #20
I can't wait until the day I never ever LittleGirl Jan 2021 #21
God yes. Five years and the damage done. Vile thing. His family as well. nt Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #36
I love the hang dog look on the mofo.... like the ResistantAmerican17 Jan 2021 #24
Only the true believers can hear the music Harker Jan 2021 #25
Here's something I learned about "The Accordion". ChazInAz Jan 2021 #45
Thank you for the insight! Harker Jan 2021 #50
Toby Keith and Kay Coles James rpannier Jan 2021 #26
Sad IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #31
Sounds like something someone would suggest as a joke. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2021 #32
He has no filters..... zero secondwind Jan 2021 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author secondwind Jan 2021 #28
Those medals have damn sure lost their value. IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #30
Just walk on like Bob Hope and the Johnny Carson's Tonight Show. lol TeamPooka Jan 2021 #34
We'd have to expand his oft used description: Totally Tunsie Jan 2021 #35
after all that has happened, barbtries Jan 2021 #37
I hope he gets convicted and the senate votes him ineligible to run for office mdbl Jan 2021 #38
I'm sure the Proud Boys would fall all over themselves to land a bodyguard gig with the family. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #44
no doubt. mdbl Jan 2021 #49
IIRC, he wouldn't be allowed to go in unless invited. sakabatou Jan 2021 #39
Damn! BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #42
Trump has to be invited to the House floor greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #43
That is true; even to give the SOTU Address, he must be invited by the Speaker. tblue37 Jan 2021 #46
Probably thought he could intimidate the rethuglican YES voters Bayard Jan 2021 #47
I would have let him in jmowreader Jan 2021 #48

Irish_Dem

(45,621 posts)
4. Is it bad of me to wish he had done it?
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:19 PM
Jan 2021

Maybe more R's would have voted to impeach after seeing him lie to their faces.

exboyfil

(17,857 posts)
8. Someone has got to do a video of "Proud to be an American"
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:33 PM
Jan 2021

while your beating a cop to death with an American flag. Come on Youtubers. Deliver.

LuckyLib

(6,814 posts)
23. More like, "They are not going to be talking about ME without
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 06:53 PM
Jan 2021

ME there in person to defend myself!"

He has such inane belief in his own persuasive powers. That, and needing to be front and center at all times.

brewens

(13,395 posts)
11. Bummer. That would have been priceless! No way he could have kept his shit together.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:42 PM
Jan 2021

He most likely would have only incriminated himself further.

Behind the Aegis

(53,829 posts)
14. Too bad.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:44 PM
Jan 2021

As stupid as he is, he would have further indicted himself and made it almost impossible NOT to convict his sorry ass!

JohnnyRingo

(18,581 posts)
15. Another medal? For the Heritage Foundation?
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 05:53 PM
Jan 2021

These awards from Trump will always be known as the Presidential Medal of Freedom To Hate and feature a puddle of blood.

Figures Toby Keith would be honored. Trump wouldn't have given him a medal unless he believed him and Keith to be on the same page.

Borderer

(50 posts)
17. It's a real shame he didn't.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 06:03 PM
Jan 2021

It would have been difficult for all those republicans to vote against impeachment right after hearing him blurt out a confession and threaten to do it again in person.

Jimvanhise

(294 posts)
18. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HIM EXPLAIN
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 06:09 PM
Jan 2021

I want to know how Trump would explain why he called the November Presidential election "the worst election in the world" as it clearly added to all of the other things said which revved up all of his supporters who were there to support him.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
20. Nancy would have, with the utmost dignity, handed him his ass,
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 06:20 PM
Jan 2021

and as usual with Trump, chaos would have ensued. HE WILL NEVER GET IT - dumb as box of rocks.

LittleGirl

(8,261 posts)
21. I can't wait until the day I never ever
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 06:24 PM
Jan 2021

hear his name again. And I hope they stop broadcasting his ugly face.
I can’t wait!

ResistantAmerican17

(3,777 posts)
24. I love the hang dog look on the mofo.... like the
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 07:20 PM
Jan 2021

pic after the Tulsa debacle. The more miserable the asshole grifter loser is——the better I feel!!!

ChazInAz

(2,535 posts)
45. Here's something I learned about "The Accordion".
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 11:23 PM
Jan 2021

I'm very hard of hearing, having been mainstreamed to manage with lip-reading to supplement my damaged hearing. Some of my friends are completely deaf and sign to communicate, a skill I never learned. They tell me that trump's frenzied, uncontrolled gestures while speaking are considered to be a warning sign in the deaf community. A person who flails about like him is seen as dangerously unstable. Anyone who signs like that is to be avoided.

Harker

(13,874 posts)
50. Thank you for the insight!
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 08:21 AM
Jan 2021

He exhibits so wide and varied an array of warning signs that it amazes me anyone outside his immediate family even cares what he thinks or says.

While gestures, used purposefully, can accentuate speech, flailing around as he does makes him appear as though he's either trying to distract people or convince them he's earnest despite his insincerity.

Either way... yes, he should have been avoided.


Response to riversedge (Original post)

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
35. We'd have to expand his oft used description:
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:33 PM
Jan 2021

"The bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral, and the defendant at every Impeachment".

barbtries

(28,702 posts)
37. after all that has happened,
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:42 PM
Jan 2021

he of course still thinks all he has to do is get in the room with them, or get on the phone with them, and he'll get his way based on the strength of his personality. it is tragic that for so many people that is true, but trump has finally run into reality on his way to the coronation.

mdbl

(4,972 posts)
38. I hope he gets convicted and the senate votes him ineligible to run for office
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 08:55 PM
Jan 2021

I want to spend as little money as possible on him and his grifter family. We don't need to be giving him a salary and secret service protection. Russia already knows all of his secrets - nothing to protect him from.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,535 posts)
44. I'm sure the Proud Boys would fall all over themselves to land a bodyguard gig with the family.
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:10 PM
Jan 2021

I bet they'd have HUNDREDS willing to 'work' for room and board in the first week of accepting applications.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,535 posts)
42. Damn!
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 10:05 PM
Jan 2021

I'd have paid money to see that. What a spectacle!

He'd have been not only be the first "pResident" to be impeached twice, but the first to be offered a headline gig in a sideshow.

You know...whenever he's available. Early Feb....after 5 to 10, 10 to 20. Whenever, as I said.

jmowreader

(50,449 posts)
48. I would have let him in
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 01:20 AM
Jan 2021

After he made a speech that sounded very much like Joliet Jake begging Carrie Fisher not to kill him, they could have got way more than ten Republican votes to impeach.

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