Republican lawmakers involved in the rally that preceded the Capitol insurrection reportedly asked T

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Business Insider

Republican lawmakers involved in the rally that preceded the Capitol insurrection reportedly asked Trump for preemptive pardons
[e-mail] (Erin Snodgrass) 3 hrs ago

With only hours left of his presidency, President Donald Trump has decided not to grant preemptive pardons to Republican lawmakers who asked for them after the Capitol insurrection, a new CNN report said.

According to the Arizona Mirror, Reps. Andy Biggs and Paul Gosar sought preemptive pardons from Trump. Both Biggs and Gosar, along with Alabama Republican Rep. Mo Brooks, have been accused of helping protesters plan the Jan. 6 "Stop the Steal" rally that preceded the deadly Capitol insurrection.

The movement's organizer Ali Alexander, said the three congressmen helped him "scheme up" putting maximum pressure on Congress while they were voting.

While Biggs and Brooks both denied any involvement in the planning, and Gosar declined to comment, they are apparently among the "several Republican lawmakers who are alleged to have been involved in the rally" that have "sought clemency from Trump before he leaves office," according to CNN.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-lawmakers-involved-in-the-rally-that-preceded-the-capitol-insurrection-reportedly-asked-trump-for-preemptive-pardons/ar-BB1cUKjI?ocid=DELLDHP&li=BBnb7Kz

[Pachamama]

1. Sounds like some people in Congress are worried

I wonder why?

[lagomorph777]

16. Sounds like they are fucked.

They thought that Trump loyalty would be two-way.

Fools.

[marble falls]

19. I hope they are. I'd loved to have seen Hawley's name up there.

[lagomorph777]

20. As long as Hawley got no pardon, he's vulnerable to charges.

[marble falls]

21. None of them will get a pardon. I just wanted to know Hawley was shaking in his boots.

[Rebl2]

31. He doesn't

think he did anything wrong, so why would he ask for a pardon.

[still_one]

2. We really don't know if he issued "hidden pardons"

[Jay25]

3. That's what I was thinking.

I just learned a day or two ago, that hidden pardons existed.

[flibbitygiblets]

7. Me too. No way he didn't secretly pardon himself

And probably his shitty spawn too.

He’ll bust out a pardon he wrote himself on a hamberder wrapper one day soon, and then the legal wrangling will commence. This will buy him some time in the news, which he craves like a junkie craves smack. And time to flee if needed...

[Jon King]

9. Yup, no doubt secret pardons for all...

There is no down side. If they are charged and the evidence looks strong, might as well have the secret pardon as a last ditch effort. Might work and would definitely delay things.

[Turin_C3PO]

23. Their was an article posted here

that so called secret pardons are still on record with the DOJ, they're just not public. I'm betting someone will leak any secret pardons to the media.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. Legality of secret pardons is Not settled, and unlikely to fly, I think. . . . nt

[Turin_C3PO]

22. We'll know at some point.

They'll be documented with the DOJ and someone will leak the info. But I predict he didn't pardon the congress men. There would be nothing in it for him.

[Xipe Totec]

4. The failed the critical 'whatsinitforme' Trump pardon test. nt

[thesquanderer]

25. Worse, it would actually look BAD for Trump.

It would mean he thought what they did was okay... which could complicate his own defense if any legal/civil action is taken against him for his own part in inciting the riot.

Plus, there's an argument that he can't pardon his own co-conspirators in a crime. That would be an avenue toward someone challenging these pardons in court, which could then open Trump up for further legal exposure.

[Ligyron]

26. A good argument right there for charging Trump with something.

Something that would involve as many of his flying monkeys as possible. I mean, it's not like he didn't DO anything actionable.

[COL Mustard]

5. If Members Of Congress Participated

In planning the riot, they should be expelled from Congress and prosecuted.

[DeminPennswoods]

6. Asking for a "pre-emptive" pardon

sounds like a pretty clear admission of guilt.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Guilty! Charge him in good time & let him defend himself with the "evidence" of a "steal". Oops. nt

[AZ8theist]

8. BIGGS NEEDS TO GO FUCK HIMSELF.

FUCKING NAZI TREASONOUS IMBECILIC PIG.

[NYC Liberal]

10. The coup was unsuccessful so they are losers to him.

[riversedge]

11. If true, this implies they KNEW it was wrong--and could get them into legal trouble.

[Kid Berwyn]

12. "several Republican lawmakers ...alleged to have been involved in the rally."

Kick them to Gitmo.

[DemUnleashed]

15. My thoughts were wrong

My own internal thoughts on the whole pardon thing was wrong. I really thought that he wasn't going to issue any pardons because knowing Drumpf l thought his thoughts would be "if I'm going to jail (on state charges) then why should I let everyone else be free??" He's such a selfish guy that I thought it would anger him to no end to have him being the only one sitting in a jail cell while everyone else got off scott free!

[The Blue Flower]

17. First they must admit to their lies

They must say the election was legitimate and they must tell their constituents they were lying for their own nefarious purposes.

[Kablooie]

18. Maybe he'll con5inue to issue pardons after he goes.

And say he issued them while he was president.

[thesquanderer]

24. They are registered somewhere when they are done. Someone said DOJ maintains those records. n/t

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

34. That's not true. Perhaps previous presidents followed that protocol,

but an expert (previously worked in such matters with Bush 1 & Clinton) says there is nothing stopping Trump from giving secret pardons. And they don't even have to be written down. Trump could do TikTok vids as pardons, it seems.

Ridiculous power when you have a totally dishonorable, crooked POTUS.who is probably getting direct pay for the pardons he sold & kickbacks from his cronies who sold pardons on their own.

[Yeehah]

27. Trump has until 12 noon DC time to issue more pardons

I'm thinking he will do some more on the plane.

[myohmy2]

28. if...

...you WANT a pardon, it must be for 'something'...

...could they be guilty of 'something'?

...let's find out...

[Lil Mushakan]

29. If he did pardon them, it would be a bad move

Since Article 2 states that any parties involved in the impeachment of a president are not eligible for pardon simply by being a party to the crime, legally, those pardons wouldn't be valid until after the impeachment (if at all).

Also, they make trump look more guilty. If he pardons people for something he incited, then it shows he is aware of his guilt and should be punished.

So, its really a win/win. Either he didn't and our country can get justice or he did and they are invalid pardons.

[ancianita]

30. Evidence of this fact makes them subject to expulsion. The House had better see to it.

[Evolve Dammit]

32. "Secret Pardons"??? WTF? I'm sure he did if he could.

[sdfernando]

33. Why would they need a pardon?

I mean they are always saying the were within their rights to challenge the election results. So, why are they asking for pardons?


Pardons are for p***ies!

[brush]

35. Where is this organizer Ali Alexander? Why hasn't the FBI picked him up?

[McCamy Taylor]

36. If they are pardoned they can not plead the 5th

and will be forced to testify against their co-conspirators, so no, the terrorists will not get pardons.

[Hassler]

37. Bwahahahaha! Of course he didn't pardon them, the coup

Failed--they failed him. Only if they'd succeeded, would he have pardoned them.