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BlueWavePsych

(3,336 posts)
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 06:40 PM Jan 2021

'A Total Failure': The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump

Source: NYT

After the presidential election last year, the Proud Boys, a far-right group, declared its undying loyalty to President Trump.

In a Nov. 8 post in a private channel of the messaging app Telegram, the group urged its followers to attend protests against an election that it said had been fraudulently stolen from Mr. Trump. “Hail Emperor Trump,” the Proud Boys wrote.

But by this week, the group’s attitude toward Mr. Trump had changed. “Trump will go down as a total failure,” the Proud Boys said in the same Telegram channel on Monday.

As Mr. Trump departed the White House on Wednesday, the Proud Boys, once among his staunchest supporters, have also started leaving his side. In dozens of conversations on social media sites like Gab and Telegram, members of the group have begun calling Mr. Trump a “shill” and “extraordinarily weak,” according to messages reviewed by The New York Times. They have also urged supporters to stop attending rallies and protests held for Mr. Trump or the Republican Party.




Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/technology/proud-boys-trump.html



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'A Total Failure': The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump (Original Post) BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 OP
A cult has no true core values, they just worship a leader. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #1
Until the next Great White Hope asshole comes along LiberalLovinLug Jan 2021 #40
Yep. :( Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #42
They're pissed Dear Leader didn't give them pardons. SunSeeker Jan 2021 #2
Proud Boys? Sounds like they just got their first pubic hair? pwb Jan 2021 #3
We can call them The trump Boys, can't we? LuvLoogie Jan 2021 #11
I'm really not surprised PatSeg Jan 2021 #4
Right wing everlasting devotion and loyalty has a very short half life. Nitram Jan 2021 #5
I think they should get behind Lindsey Graham or that fuck-wad Hawly. After then, hmmmm ... marble falls Jan 2021 #6
They can fuck right off with their racism, bigotry, homophobia, and sexism. SoFlaBro Jan 2021 #7
It's just like I thought Dakota Flint Jan 2021 #8
He just can't win... AntiFascist Jan 2021 #9
I haven't felt this good in 4 years. WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2021 #10
All I can say to the Proud Boys is that it takes one to know one. patphil Jan 2021 #12
"Hail Emperor Trump," ... That's their idea of democracy, eh? keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #13
Remember, The Proud Boys Are The Modern, American Edition COL Mustard Jan 2021 #14
Clear Evidence ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #15
Very true dclarston13 Jan 2021 #17
Trump was just the vehicle for fascists like the Proud Kidz to further their causes. hadEnuf Jan 2021 #22
Hawley wants to be that guy birdographer Jan 2021 #27
I agree, he does need to be thrown out. hadEnuf Jan 2021 #31
Welcome to our DU family. niyad Jan 2021 #28
Welcome to DU mahina Jan 2021 #38
Well, they're getting smarter anyway. Ligyron Jan 2021 #16
tRump used them and they used tRump. StarryNite Jan 2021 #18
if anyone would know FAILURE, it's the PROUD BOYS Skittles Jan 2021 #19
Knew it would happen, but that was fast! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #20
When you hear them speak they are stuck in middle school... Jon King Jan 2021 #21
It's called "Arrested Development" turtleblossom Jan 2021 #39
Well, volstork Jan 2021 #23
Losers mocking their loser leader, just like losers do. ancianita Jan 2021 #24
The "Stand By" No Fly Boys?! Cha Jan 2021 #25
so a few dozen extra strength idiots think they matter? Like, tRump has always played idiots like a yaesu Jan 2021 #26
Proud Boys' loyalty is as firm as a flaccid penis NEOBuckeye Jan 2021 #29
Well, duh world wide wally Jan 2021 #30
They'll still probably support him when he runs again in 2024. (eom) StevieM Jan 2021 #32
total idiots llashram Jan 2021 #33
"or the Republican Party" IronLionZion Jan 2021 #34
I am sure some of them think this way. While others may be denouncing IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #35
I say this with 100% sincerity: fuck these fucking assholes. Initech Jan 2021 #36
Right-wing in ruin Dopers_Greed Jan 2021 #37
Stupid idiots, they thought it was their time DSandra Jan 2021 #41
That turnaround didn't take very long at all. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #43

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
1. A cult has no true core values, they just worship a leader.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 06:43 PM
Jan 2021

When the leader leaves or loses face, the cult is done.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
2. They're pissed Dear Leader didn't give them pardons.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 06:49 PM
Jan 2021

Suck it up, buttercups! And find bail money!

Nitram

(27,749 posts)
5. Right wing everlasting devotion and loyalty has a very short half life.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 07:17 PM
Jan 2021

I like the way they say Trump failed without acknowledging that they failed.

marble falls

(71,936 posts)
6. I think they should get behind Lindsey Graham or that fuck-wad Hawly. After then, hmmmm ...
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 07:18 PM
Jan 2021

... The quiet and even dumber one: Eric Trump?

SoFlaBro

(3,790 posts)
7. They can fuck right off with their racism, bigotry, homophobia, and sexism.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 07:21 PM
Jan 2021

Get that bail money together soon, shitbirds.

 

Dakota Flint

(219 posts)
8. It's just like I thought
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 07:52 PM
Jan 2021

The "proud boys" are now acting just like the Germans did after WWII...I was never a nazi...

WinstonSmith4740

(3,436 posts)
10. I haven't felt this good in 4 years.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 07:53 PM
Jan 2021

New President, new day, on the road back to normalcy, and now this? The Proud Boys are turning on him. We need to make sure he knows that even his staunchest supporters think he's a loser.

patphil

(9,068 posts)
12. All I can say to the Proud Boys is that it takes one to know one.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 08:14 PM
Jan 2021

Trump = failure
Proud Boys = failure

I doubt these boys will ever be men.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
13. "Hail Emperor Trump," ... That's their idea of democracy, eh?
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 08:28 PM
Jan 2021

“Hail Emperor Trump,” ... That's their idea of democracy, eh?

COL Mustard

(8,224 posts)
14. Remember, The Proud Boys Are The Modern, American Edition
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 09:38 PM
Jan 2021

Of Ernst Rohm's Sturmabteilung. Go back and read German history from 100 years ago. We aren't out of the woods yet, as long as those groups exist. I'm still concerned, even with President Biden (I love typing that) in office.

Remain vigilant.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
15. Clear Evidence
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 09:43 PM
Jan 2021

This is abject proof it takes them 15-20 years longer to figure things out than it took us here.
And, about 40 years slower than people who actually know the fake.

dclarston13

(441 posts)
17. Very true
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 09:45 PM
Jan 2021

There will be more and they will be smarter and better spoken. We must be vigilant.

hadEnuf

(3,616 posts)
22. Trump was just the vehicle for fascists like the Proud Kidz to further their causes.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 10:14 PM
Jan 2021

They'll put out an ad for a new emperor and worship him once they find one - if he can deliver for them that is.

hadEnuf

(3,616 posts)
31. I agree, he does need to be thrown out.
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 11:06 PM
Jan 2021

And depending on his role in the insurrection, hopefully charges of treason too.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
20. Knew it would happen, but that was fast!
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 09:53 PM
Jan 2021

People who are obsessed with "converting" others always turn on their own eventually for not being "pure" enough.

Spanish Inquisition, in-fighting between early American Puritans, etc.

Follow the logic of it. What happens if they ever managed to convert everyone, yet still had conversion of others as a guiding principle. Something's gonna give.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
21. When you hear them speak they are stuck in middle school...
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 09:54 PM
Jan 2021

I saw an interview with a group of them from S. Florida. They seem to need some kind of return to when they were big deals in school. Lots of talk about male bonding, getting together and having a beer. Same when the Oath Keepers started in the 1990s, they first went to baseball games together and said they needed to have groups to bond. Same with motorcyle gangs, more guys who can never grow up.

Most mature guys move on, start a family and/or a career and mature year by year. Maybe see some high school buddies at a class reunion, text every now and then. Their relationships are with their families, coaching their kids, co-workers, etc. They do not need to have a bunch of dudes around to support them all the time.

In the end, all these guys are really very scared and helpless and can't adapt to real life after high school.

turtleblossom

(504 posts)
39. It's called "Arrested Development"
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:45 AM
Jan 2021

1. arrested development - an abnormal state in which development has stopped prematurely. fixation, infantile fixation, regression. abnormalcy, abnormality - an abnormal physical condition resulting from defective genes or developmental deficiencies.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/arrested+development

yaesu

(9,328 posts)
26. so a few dozen extra strength idiots think they matter? Like, tRump has always played idiots like a
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 10:34 PM
Jan 2021

cheap piano. They will all end up in prison, dead or moved back into mommy's basement and play puter games.

NEOBuckeye

(2,922 posts)
29. Proud Boys' loyalty is as firm as a flaccid penis
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 10:46 PM
Jan 2021

Something they should be all too familiar with.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
33. total idiots
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 11:22 PM
Jan 2021

STFU, they have no standing nor voice anymore. Just like their cult leader, they should slink off and never bother adults again. Pathetic.

IronLionZion

(51,271 posts)
34. "or the Republican Party"
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 11:43 PM
Jan 2021

These assholes should just fight among themselves, tear apart their own party. It would "be best" for everyone.

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
35. I am sure some of them think this way. While others may be denouncing
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 11:43 PM
Jan 2021

the totalitarian turd in order to get the heat off their own backs. Just a thought.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
36. I say this with 100% sincerity: fuck these fucking assholes.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:27 AM
Jan 2021

I wish they would go back under the troll bridge from which they came! And they don't deserve to be anywhere near any position of power ever again!

DSandra

(1,719 posts)
41. Stupid idiots, they thought it was their time
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 06:39 AM
Jan 2021

Instead, they find out at the last minute that Trump is a con, and they are left alone. America is destined to be a multicultural country, and they have no choice but to accept that.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
43. That turnaround didn't take very long at all.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:57 PM
Jan 2021

If they could pick up the...let's say "clues"... that quickly and turn their views completely upside down, I have to wonder where they've been up till now.

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