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sabra

(30,406 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:51 PM Jan 2021

Trump has no legal team or strategy for Capitol riot impeachment trial

Source: CNBC

Ex-President Donald Trump is not prepared for his Senate impeachment trial despite the fact that it could begin as early as next week.

Trump, who is charged with inciting the deadly Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol by a mob of his supporters, still has not assembled a group of lawyers to defend him at what will be his second impeachment trial, NBC News reported.

He also has no clear legal strategy for the trial, according to NBC. Democratic senators, and likely a number of Republican ones, hope to convict Trump and then vote to bar him from becoming president ever again.

The failure to prepare for the trial is consistent with Trump’s behavior this month, where he did little actual work related to the presidency.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/21/trump-not-prepared-for-senate-impeachment-trial-for-capitol-riots.html

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Trump has no legal team or strategy for Capitol riot impeachment trial (Original Post) sabra Jan 2021 OP
Is he going to try and defend himself? sakabatou Jan 2021 #1
No such thing for impeachments. It's not a judicial proceeding. unblock Jan 2021 #7
I would welcome the train wreck his testimony would be NewJeffCT Jan 2021 #39
Assign him a public defender. nt Xipe Totec Jan 2021 #2
In the famous words of Melania Chump FakeNoose Jan 2021 #3
I've seen this a lot on Twitter and my answer is Lil Mushakan Jan 2021 #24
Rudy, Wood, Powell, and Kracken are available to provide their legal services. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #4
That's the punchline. CaptYossarian Jan 2021 #9
I think that Orly Taitz is also still available. SeattleVet Jan 2021 #30
perfect! She could clean everyone's teeth afterward yellowdogintexas Jan 2021 #37
Guiliani at the least barbtries Jan 2021 #32
I think NO plan IS the plan... Zoonart Jan 2021 #5
Not clear he needs to mount a defense or even be there unblock Jan 2021 #6
Trump has moved on PJMcK Jan 2021 #8
"He never wanted the JOB of being president." that is a true statement but... Escurumbele Jan 2021 #22
+1000 Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 #29
I'm Leaning A Different Way ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #35
...or did he secret-pardon himself for this? poli-junkie Jan 2021 #10
That's my question also. Along with Jr., Ivanka, Jared, and Eric. Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #19
The word is...no. He didn't. paleotn Jan 2021 #43
"...consistent with Trump's behavior this month" SledDriver Jan 2021 #11
It has been theorized that Biden can reveal any secret pardons that 45 created, if he wishes. truthisfreedom Jan 2021 #12
It's a calculation of how to re-enter the scene and get the most publicity bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #13
I think he should defend himself ... GeorgeGist Jan 2021 #14
A person who has successfully navigated six corporate bankruptcies NCjack Jan 2021 #25
Don't see a problem here. He has plenty of cultist United States Senators that would IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #15
He's a scofflaw. He'll ignore it just as he ignored the inauguration. Marcuse Jan 2021 #16
His number of impeachments is less than fifteen and "close to zero" Borderer Jan 2021 #17
Perfect! You win an internet! n/t eggplant Jan 2021 #38
The White House Office of Legal Counsel is no longer his law firm. TeamPooka Jan 2021 #18
But we know he rarely pays anybody Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 #31
well sometimes he DOES kristofarian Jan 2021 #41
I still remember an OP that made it to the top of The Greatest Page here Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 #45
I can't wait to see how it all works out for him. gldstwmn Jan 2021 #20
Great! Get it started ASAP then. jalan48 Jan 2021 #21
He's going to cross his arms and repeat over and over, "I was President, you have no authority", ... marble falls Jan 2021 #23
Wing-it!!!: Trump: "I know more about Impeachments than Anybody" Stallion Jan 2021 #26
"Believe me!" LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2021 #27
Ironically, that is probably a true statement canetoad Jan 2021 #34
Trump's Brain: If I ignore it, it will just go away. Marie Marie Jan 2021 #28
He probably figures 17 republicans won't vote to convict anyway. George II Jan 2021 #33
Some Lawyer From SC Took The Gig ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #36
His ridiculous name is Butch Bowers Politicub Jan 2021 #42
Thanks ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #44
Did Trump have a legal defense team for his first impeachment? apnu Jan 2021 #40
He didn't need one with a complicit senate mdbl Jan 2021 #46

sakabatou

(46,109 posts)
1. Is he going to try and defend himself?
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:54 PM
Jan 2021

Or more likely, he's going to have a court appointed lawyer.

Lil Mushakan

(19 posts)
24. I've seen this a lot on Twitter and my answer is
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:02 PM
Jan 2021

Yes. I do care. If it bars him from ever being President again, I very much care.

SeattleVet

(5,897 posts)
30. I think that Orly Taitz is also still available.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 05:26 PM
Jan 2021

I don't recall seeing anything about her getting disbarred.

yellowdogintexas

(23,693 posts)
37. perfect! She could clean everyone's teeth afterward
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 06:38 PM
Jan 2021

I wonder if she is still around - Stephanie Miller hasn't mentioned her in forever

barbtries

(31,298 posts)
32. Guiliani at the least
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 06:07 PM
Jan 2021

and maybe all of them will be witnesses.

i never really thought that the first thing trump would run out of would be lawyers.

Zoonart

(14,437 posts)
5. I think NO plan IS the plan...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jan 2021

To claim that since he has no legal representation... the trial is inherently unfair, and therefore self nullifying.

The NO PLAN plan seems to be it's favorite gambit.

unblock

(56,187 posts)
6. Not clear he needs to mount a defense or even be there
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:58 PM
Jan 2021

I'm still not convinced 17 republicans will vote to convict.

He might not show up and call the whole thing fake news.

PJMcK

(25,046 posts)
8. Trump has moved on
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jan 2021

He'll always portray himself as the victim of "the greatest election fraud in history" but he's already looking for his next scam.

Whatever happens in the Senate, perhaps it's irrelevant to him. He never wanted the JOB of being president. He just wanted the POMP and influence of the gig. It also helped that he enjoyed such impenetrable legal immunity while he was president.

It wouldn't me if he doesn't even send a representative to the Senate trial. No matter what he does, he can't win. The best he could hope for is an acquittal but he'll still have been impeached twice.

I think he's moved on.

Escurumbele

(4,083 posts)
22. "He never wanted the JOB of being president." that is a true statement but...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:55 PM
Jan 2021

He wanted the presidency to use it as a cash machine, his intent was to take as much money as he could from the tax payers to hopefully pay some, or maybe all his debts.

Between the Golf that made him a lot of money by overcharging to have security around, and who knows what else, he figured that eight years as president, which was not a very hard job for him as he didn't do anything, he could make enough money to pay his debts.

ProfessorGAC

(76,625 posts)
35. I'm Leaning A Different Way
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 06:36 PM
Jan 2021

I don't think it was about making money.
Actually, there's no evidence he knows how to make money. He knows how to lose money, borrow money & squander money, but not sure he has a clue on how to make money.
I think the presidency was about the pomp, the privilege, & the power.
On top of that, speaking of money, being POTUS kept the wolves at bay.
Less about making money than about not having to pay it back.

Lonestarblue

(13,460 posts)
19. That's my question also. Along with Jr., Ivanka, Jared, and Eric.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:45 PM
Jan 2021

Wouldn’t secret pardons have to be recorded somewhere to make them legal? I suppose there’s no way to find out if he secretly pardoned himself and the other four unless they are indicted for some federal crime and they whip out their pardons. I do believe he did the secret pardons, though.

paleotn

(22,179 posts)
43. The word is...no. He didn't.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:46 PM
Jan 2021

Apparently he was convinced that pardoning himself would look like an admission of guilt and would most likely run aground on the rocks of SCOTUS and sink in less than 5 minutes, taking all hands with it. Nothing for hell's spawn either. I still find that hard to believe, but that's the word on the street.

SledDriver

(2,122 posts)
11. "...consistent with Trump's behavior this month"
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:24 PM
Jan 2021

"...consistent with Trump’s behavior this month, where he did little actual work related to the presidency."

*This MONTH*??? Just this month? How about the last *FOUR YEARS*?

I guess if you set the bar low, you can count golfing and live-tweeting Fox & Friends as "work".

truthisfreedom

(23,531 posts)
12. It has been theorized that Biden can reveal any secret pardons that 45 created, if he wishes.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:26 PM
Jan 2021

bucolic_frolic

(55,039 posts)
13. It's a calculation of how to re-enter the scene and get the most publicity
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jan 2021

My guess would be stage no defense and then whine Democrats wouldn't allow him a defense forever.

He won't show up in person, he knows he wouldn't be well received.

Some are saying he can't be his own lawyer, but I don't know where that's written.

NCjack

(10,297 posts)
25. A person who has successfully navigated six corporate bankruptcies
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:14 PM
Jan 2021

should be able to do his 2nd Senate trial.

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
15. Don't see a problem here. He has plenty of cultist United States Senators that would
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jan 2021

gladly fill in for his Lawyer. Ted Cruz and Hawley to name a few. Let's do it.

Marcuse

(8,989 posts)
16. He's a scofflaw. He'll ignore it just as he ignored the inauguration.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:28 PM
Jan 2021

He really is quite weak and ignorant.

Borderer

(52 posts)
17. His number of impeachments is less than fifteen and "close to zero"
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jan 2021

so why would he worry about it? Within a few months there will be zero impeachments outstanding against him. Why would he go to the expense of engaging so-called "experts" over such a small number of impeachments? Being impeached is like the flu. He has been impeached before so has immunity, which some people on a conspiracy website assume lasts a lifetime. He has granted pardons to so many other corrupt Republicans that there is herd immunity. He has a very good brain.

 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
18. The White House Office of Legal Counsel is no longer his law firm.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jan 2021

He's going to have to pay lawyers again.
That will not end well.

 

kristofarian

(75 posts)
41. well sometimes he DOES
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:42 PM
Jan 2021

pay them but he Always strips them of their
Wallets as he tosses them Under the Bus -- it's his Signature Move.

he figures
they owe
Him.

Rhiannon12866

(255,085 posts)
45. I still remember an OP that made it to the top of The Greatest Page here
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:57 PM
Jan 2021

That told of his behavior towards the caterer who catered his last wedding. She nearly went out of business when he refused to pay her, said she could use the fact that she catered for him in-lieu-of payment. And when his numerous businesses foundered, he took to selling his "name," which has now become a liability

marble falls

(71,859 posts)
23. He's going to cross his arms and repeat over and over, "I was President, you have no authority", ...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:17 PM
Jan 2021

... get found guilty, go back to Florida and some golf.

Politicub

(12,327 posts)
42. His ridiculous name is Butch Bowers
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:46 PM
Jan 2021

And his website looks like it was put together by an illiterate cousin.

ProfessorGAC

(76,625 posts)
44. Thanks
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 07:49 PM
Jan 2021

That made me remember Bowers, but I don't recall hearing Butch.
Does he have "Esquire" on his business card? Cartoon lawyer?

apnu

(8,790 posts)
40. Did Trump have a legal defense team for his first impeachment?
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 06:57 PM
Jan 2021

I don't think so. So what is this bullshit?

mdbl

(8,636 posts)
46. He didn't need one with a complicit senate
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:25 PM
Jan 2021

they covered his ass while showing theirs.

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