Rudy Giuliani Sued by Dominion Voting Systems Over False Election Claims

[BeyondGeography]

Source: NY Times

Dominion Voting Systems filed a defamation lawsuit on Monday against Rudolph W. Giuliani, the lawyer for Donald J. Trump and former mayor of New York City who played a key role in the former president’s monthslong effort to subvert the 2020 election.

The 107-page lawsuit, filed in the Federal District Court in Washington, accuses Mr. Giuliani of carrying out “a viral disinformation campaign about Dominion” made up of “demonstrably false” allegations, in part to enrich himself through legal fees and his podcast.

The suit seeks damages of more than $1.3 billion and is based on more than 50 statements Mr. Giuliani made at legislative hearings, on Twitter, on his podcast and in the conservative news media, where he spun a fictitious narrative of a plot by one of the biggest voting machine manufacturers in the country to flip votes to President Biden.

Mr. Giuliani, one of Mr. Trump’s closest advisers and confidants, has faced continuing fallout for his highly visible efforts to reverse the election outcome. This month, the chairman of the New York State Senate’s judiciary committee formally requested that the state court system strip Mr. Giuliani of his law license.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/25/us/politics/rudy-giuliani-dominion-trump.html?searchResultPosition=2

[bullimiami]

1. the should sue each and every one of these liars for hundreds of millions.

[hlthe2b]

2. Go after them all!

[blueinredohio]

12. Yep, every last one.

[twodogsbarking]

3. Feel good story for today

enjoy.

[Mike Niendorff]

4. $1.3 Billion

With a "B".


MDN

[bucolic_frolic]

5. This will test Operation Secret Pardon

If you can't rig an election with impunity, what good is a secret pardon?

[Harker]

7. I'm not so sure any pardon extends to protecting one

from civil litigation.

That would, I think, constitute a deprivation of a litigant's rights.

[Lochloosa]

8. That was my question. I pretty sure pardons only apply to criminal charges.

[Harker]

9. And at a federal level. n/t

[Lochloosa]

10. the President may grant pardons only for federal criminal offenses, and second, impeachment convict

https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/R46179.html

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

29. What are these "secret pardons"?

Are they like Dean Wormer's "double secret probation" from Animal House?

There was a scam perpetrated in the English "South Sea Bubble" of 1720. People were investing in all sorts of wild financial schemes -- one, for example, to make square cannonballs and cannons to fire them. The scam I am thinking of was a company, "For carrying-on an undertaking of great advantage but no-one to know what it is!!" In one day, the con man collected £2000 (in 1720 pounds), closed up shop and departed for France. Are these pardons to be "of great advantage" to the criminal, but no one is to know that he got one?

[lisa58]

6. This will test Michael Cohen's theory that Guiliani was granted a pardon

[onenote]

13. As pointed out above, pardons don't impact civil litigation

And "secret pardons" are basically an imaginary thing. There's never been one and it's unlikely one would ever be effective.

[mdbl]

17. yes but does Rudy know this? LOL

I wouldn't be surprised. He's always sounds like a very uninformed lawyer.

[lisa58]

19. That's good news - thank you

[rdking647]

14. doesnt matter

pardons dont affect civil cases

[MrModerate]

11. Rudy doesn't actually HAVE 1.3 billion dollars...

Although he may have more cash on hand than his former client.

This suit is meant to crush Giuliani and take everything he owns, including the socks he's wearing when the judgement comes down.

Which is a good thing.

Also, let's not forget about disbarment.

[marble falls]

15. Selling one's soul has consequences.

[MrModerate]

37. Especially when the devil never pays his bills. n/t

[Shermann]

24. Unless he comes forward as the secret Mega Millions winner

Even then, he might come up short.

He's used to that by now.

[MrModerate]

39. "Yeah, the bill is about, let's see..."

"…six, seven trillion dollars? Say I give you a hundred grand and we call it even."

[bonniebgood]

16. Guliana is hoping he's dead when the verdict comes down. nt

[MrModerate]

40. Oh, you mean his BODY, not his soul. n/t

[judesedit]

18. I thought I read he was dis-barred. Wrong. Sorry.

Snopes says no disciplinary action on the table for him right now. They are waiting for a response from NYSBA which can only cancel his membership. The appellate court has to disbar him. And it hasn't happened yet

[csziggy]

34. There is an attempt to disbar Giuliani

Ethics Complaint Against Rudy Giuliani Seeks To Disbar Him In New York
Alison Durkee

A legal advocacy group called Thursday for Rudy Giuliani to be investigated and potentially lose his license to practice law, filing an ethics complaint against the attorney with the Grievance Committee of the New York State Bar after the former New York City mayor led former President Donald Trump’s legal campaign to overturn the election and pushed baseless election fraud claims.

Key Facts

The 18-page ethics complaint filed by the group Lawyers Defending American Democracy says Giuliani “should be sanctioned immediately while the Committee investigates,” including an “interim suspension” of his license.

The complaint alleges Giuliani “knowingly propagated a false narrative of election fraud” as the lead attorney in Trump’s legal effort to contest the election results, including claims made in court and in public appearances, such as the rally immediately before the attack on the U.S. Capitol building where Giuliani called for “trial by combat.”

The attorneys allege Giuliani knew his claims were false, writing, “A lawyer who lies to the public and abuses the court system to undermine democracy and the rule of law is not fit to practice law.”

More: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/01/21/ethics-complaint-against-rudy-giuliani-seeks-to-disbar-him-in-new-york/?sh=5bca636d3317

[judesedit]

35. Let's hope it happens. It couldn't happen to a more deserving fellow

[csziggy]

36. Yes, I understand that in New York, disbarring is much more complicated

Than in many states. That's OK - Giuliani can keep his license long enough to represent Trump in his impeachment trial. Though since Giuliani should be considered a co-conspirator, I'm not sure he should.

[KayF]

20. dominion is going to own a bunch of pinky rings

Plus some pillows from the other guy

[Happy Hoosier]

21. Take all his money. Every. Last. Penny. NT

[niyad]

22. Thank you for this lovely start to my da. Well, this's, and the First Dogsvarriving! I hope rudy

drowns in legal fees.

[still_one]

23. Good. As stated below they need to include anyone who publicly slurred their reputation.

Accusations that have been made can put them out of business even if they win the lawsuit, which is why this is more than justified

I am surprised Sydney Powell and others aren’t included in the suit suit ncluding trump and the RNC

[twodogsbarking]

25. I want to see him

and Trump in court and have them take the stand.

[CaptainTruth]

26. They've now sued Sidney & Rudy for $1.3B each, anyone else I missed?

[oldsoftie]

28. The head of Dominion said "its just the beginning". Low hanging fruit first.

So here's their chance to show the world ALL this "proof" they're supposed to have

[MrModerate]

38. And Rudy is certainly a low-hanging fruit...cake. n/t

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

27. Rudy may be living on Social Security after they bankrupt him.

Positively 4th Street.

[MissMillie]

30. Outstanding!

I checked out what the dopes on the RW side of this tale have to say, and I know I'm not supposed to repeat it--so I won't.

But I will say that if Dominion thought for one minute that they didn't have a case (and since they are the plaintiffs they have the burden of proof) they wouldn't have bothered to file this. They would have skulked off into the sunset.

[LogicFirst]

31. Punitive damages - that's the key. They cannot be discharged in bankruptcy.

[IsItJustMe]

32. Now all Dominion has to do is add the other co-conspirators

to their law suit list.

[EndlessWire]

33. You cannot blame Dominion

for defending their reputation.

Everything Trump touches dies. Rudy will spend his last days fighting this lawsuit.