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My Pet Orangutan

(12,598 posts)
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 04:53 AM Jan 2021

Donald Trump facing eviction from Mar-a-Lago over rule breach

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Nine News

The use of Mar-a-Lago as former President Donald Trump's permanent home is under legal review by the town of Palm Beach and the arrangement may be discussed at the upcoming town council meeting, the town manager told CNN.

When Trump turned the private residence into a social club, he had agreed with the town to limit his stays at Mar-a-Lago, and now some Palm Beach residents say he is violating that agreement.

Trump bought the former estate of Marjorie Merriweather Post in 1985, and subsequently turned it into a members' only club in 1993. The plan was -- as with most Trump deals -- to turn a profit. Yet in order to transform the private residence into a revenue-generating business, Trump had to agree to certain limitations, based on guidelines presented as deal-breakers from Palm Beach.

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At the time, following several appearances at town council meetings by Trump and his lawyers to plead his case for approval on the evolution of the property, Trump assented to abiding by the 21-day rule. His signature is on the agreement.

Read more: https://www.9news.com.au/world/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-eviction-florida-palm-beach-residence-rules/dc25b421-838f-46e8-84ac-83adafbdea07



Not the stuff of International News you might think. Q: How much do Aussies loathe Donald Trump? A: Yes.
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Donald Trump facing eviction from Mar-a-Lago over rule breach (Original Post) My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 OP
I'll Be STUNNED If He's Actually Held To The Contract He Signed sfstaxprep Jan 2021 #1
Above the law once; Above the law always. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #2
You have described how he acquired Mar a Lago. twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #10
Just as long as they get paid he will... Ford_Prefect Jan 2021 #14
Oh, he's got a long way to go before he starts missing any meals Warpy Jan 2021 #24
I Can't Agree ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #26
What is BKO? Wicked Blue Jan 2021 #30
Bankruptcy ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #38
Lose in the right court and that pension goes away too. Ford_Prefect Jan 2021 #31
Fire sale vs. desperate scramble Warpy Jan 2021 #42
We Agree On All That ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #43
It is also possible that he might want it to be just a private residence again karynnj Jan 2021 #32
I don't think Palm Beach really cares if he lives there or not, Worried2020 Jan 2021 #3
They hate him there obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #11
And his terrorist buddies have already set up shop... 2naSalit Jan 2021 #12
I'm old enuf, and have moved around enuf to know Worried2020 Jan 2021 #16
Ha! 2naSalit Jan 2021 #17
We got the same disease here in The Great White North Worried2020 Jan 2021 #19
Sadly true. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #20
Trump being Trump ... left-of-center2012 Jan 2021 #4
Its funny PatSeg Jan 2021 #21
Then they can take away his "resort" status. Dave Starsky Jan 2021 #25
Its It's been rumored... SergeStorms Jan 2021 #5
You know what will happen jmowreader Jan 2021 #6
In a van, down by the river! IronLionZion Jan 2021 #23
LOL................ turbinetree Jan 2021 #28
One of his book writers, Tim something, gab13by13 Jan 2021 #8
Only little people honor contracts DeeDeeNY Jan 2021 #7
Maybe they could samplegirl Jan 2021 #9
insane, terrorist promoter living in their state? Maxheader Jan 2021 #13
I hear there's a rather cute condo going for a song at Lompoc. Ford_Prefect Jan 2021 #15
The POS has a 21-day shelf life at his own tacky club Blue Owl Jan 2021 #18
If it is a residence, no liquor license. keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #22
+!! My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #29
Has the helipad been demolished yet? Lasher Jan 2021 #27
Maybe now that tRump is facing eviction Senate Rs will get onboard stopbush Jan 2021 #33
What would prevent him from monthly 21 consecutive days then 10ish on a yacht Texin Jan 2021 #34
Trump wouldn't be comfortable staying on a boat that long. Nitram Jan 2021 #37
The agreement he signed prohibits it jmowreader Jan 2021 #41
What would prevent him from monthly 21 consecutive days then 10ish on a yacht Texin Jan 2021 #35
This has been coming for some time. It will be a battle of lawyers. Nitram Jan 2021 #36
Bet big bucks DS weighs in and saves drumpf somehow. lark Jan 2021 #39
I wouldn't want him as my neighbor Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2021 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jan 2021 #44
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Jan 2021 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve Jan 2021 #46
 

sfstaxprep

(10,599 posts)
1. I'll Be STUNNED If He's Actually Held To The Contract He Signed
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:06 AM
Jan 2021

At worst, he'll file suit, and tie it up in court for years and years, eventually appealing to the Supreme Court if necessary.

The chances of him actually leaving Mar-A-Lago are Zero.

Rules are for others to abide by. They do not apply to him.

My Pet Orangutan

(12,598 posts)
2. Above the law once; Above the law always.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:10 AM
Jan 2021


Some DA should have nipped him in the bud.

twodogsbarking

(18,781 posts)
10. You have described how he acquired Mar a Lago.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:39 AM
Jan 2021

As long as there are enough attorneys Trump will survive. The brutal truth.

Ford_Prefect

(8,610 posts)
14. Just as long as they get paid he will...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:21 AM
Jan 2021

He'll be in Mar-A-Lago until the cash runs out and he can no longer bribe his way along.

Which if you recall is probably going to be soon. No one is left who can cash him out of this one. That is why he's been so desperate of late IMO.

What happens when one of his creditors or a federal prosecutor attaches the property in lieu of payment? What does he do when he cannot play at Doral or any other course?

Does anyone recall the very sad story of Manuel Noriega and how the wealthy drug and money laundering people he empowered turned on him when they no longer wanted him?

Don the Con may have a few more folks he can manipulate but he's on the down slope and headed in the same direction as Manuel.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
24. Oh, he's got a long way to go before he starts missing any meals
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jan 2021

Creditors are going to force fire sales of his less profitable properties, but he's likely got enough to meet the loans and tax payments.

He might also give up his license to run MaraLardo as a club, membership is falling off now that it isn't an attractive place to see and be seen, slipping bribes under the table. He might also just fight it for years, his lawyers changing all the time as they bail because he doesn't pay his bills.

I think he's going to end up going full bore Howard Hughes.

ProfessorGAC

(76,703 posts)
26. I Can't Agree
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:44 AM
Jan 2021

I don't think there's enough revenue to cover debt service.
The debt is much higher than advertised per the Moody creditworthiness reports of 2013 & 2018.
Those reports did NOT include the loans from German & Chinese banks.
There's enough evidence out there to reasonably conclude the TO has been borrowing money to cover interest on existing debt.
If it had never been POTUS, I think we'd have been seeing BKO stories in the media for the last 3 years.
Now, the brand is toxic to 70% of Americans & hundreds of millions in other countries.
I think there's much deeper financial issues.
Now, we do agree there won't be missed meals. BKO doesn't take all means of support, & there's the ex-POTUS pension.
But, there's going to be a desperate scramble for luxury

Wicked Blue

(8,867 posts)
30. What is BKO?
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:15 PM
Jan 2021

ProfessorGAC

(76,703 posts)
38. Bankruptcy
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:24 PM
Jan 2021

Sorry for the acronym. I honestly thought it was commonly known.
It's short for bankruptcy organization.
It really should be BKR, because it's really "reorganization". But, the business world did BKO. Not sure why.

Ford_Prefect

(8,610 posts)
31. Lose in the right court and that pension goes away too.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jan 2021

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
42. Fire sale vs. desperate scramble
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:10 PM
Jan 2021

tomayto/tomahto

He is definitely going to find his world getting a lot smaller very quickly as his multinational empire gets sold off to satisfy creditors. He might not be able to hang onto both his gilt and marble NYC two story penthouse pied a terre and MaraLardo unless one of them generates income.

He's been in trouble since the 2008 crash, something he never recovered from since he had to scramble for loans to maintain his empire, those loans coming with unacceptable terms. The bills are now falling due and while what he has left will afford him luxury for the rest of his life, it will feel like Skid Row to him.

ProfessorGAC

(76,703 posts)
43. We Agree On All That
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:15 PM
Jan 2021

What I was disagreeing with was your statement that there's enough to cover the debt.
I think he's farther underwater than you. Especially with the toxicity of the brand! That's s a detail only.
But, we agree on everything else.

karynnj

(60,968 posts)
32. It is also possible that he might want it to be just a private residence again
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jan 2021

I have no idea how many rooms (or suites ?) there are. He may want it to be the Trump "compound" - where all of his extended family and close friends could live.

Could he afford this? None of us know if his business interests are even net positive. He will however have his pension and it is very likely he will have a ghost written book or two. Remember he still has millions - probably significantly less than 74 million - but still millions that will buy his words. Even following a bankruptcy, he could use just those two things to regenerate more than enough to finance a life style like that.

Worried2020

(444 posts)
3. I don't think Palm Beach really cares if he lives there or not,
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:41 AM
Jan 2021

.
.

as long as they get their Taxes . . .

BUT,

if they wanna get re-elected,

they gotta make a fuss about Trump
.

Like it or not, if Trump wants to stay there,

he will.



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obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
11. They hate him there
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:48 AM
Jan 2021

And hate him living there.

2naSalit

(102,791 posts)
12. And his terrorist buddies have already set up shop...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 08:53 AM
Jan 2021

down the street from maga-laga. I'm sure all the fine folk of PB are thrilled about that.

Worried2020

(444 posts)
16. I'm old enuf, and have moved around enuf to know
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:37 AM
Jan 2021

.
.

that it isn't unusual for a community's leaders not to do what it's citizens want,

or even do their best for them

no?



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2naSalit

(102,791 posts)
17. Ha!
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:39 AM
Jan 2021

It's the American way!

So far.


Worried2020

(444 posts)
19. We got the same disease here in The Great White North
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:45 AM
Jan 2021

.
.

I see it in my wee town with less than 2k souls . . .

$$$ rule

(sigh)

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2naSalit

(102,791 posts)
20. Sadly true.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:49 AM
Jan 2021

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
4. Trump being Trump ...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:42 AM
Jan 2021

He will drag it out in court as long as he can.
His followers will say it is "unconstitutional" to make him move.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
21. Its funny
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:49 AM
Jan 2021

With republicans, everything they don't like is "unconstitutional", as if they have a clue what is actually in the constitution.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
25. Then they can take away his "resort" status.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jan 2021

I recall the whole thing is that he could either live there or run it as a golf resort, but not both. If he runs it as a business, Palm Beach is gonna want its taxes on the money rolling in every day.

No one is abridging his freedom whatsoever. The people who live around there are tired of the circus and inconvenience he creates whenever he's shacked up there.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
5. Its It's been rumored...
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:54 AM
Jan 2021

that he and Malaria are looking at several properties to buy in the area. I saw some pictures on some south Florida website yesterday. I doubt he'd buy any of the ones in the layout because there wasn't enough faux-gold decor to suit his garish tastes. Besides, where's he going to come up with $20 million or so? He's cash poor, as everything he has is tied up in heavily leveraged properties. I don't think there's a single bank in the world that would extend him credit now.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
6. You know what will happen
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 06:44 AM
Jan 2021

He will throw a fundraiser, and people living in vans down by the river will pitch in to buy him a $10 million home.

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
23. In a van, down by the river!
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:14 AM
Jan 2021

turbinetree

(27,546 posts)
28. LOL................
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:55 AM
Jan 2021

gab13by13

(32,321 posts)
8. One of his book writers, Tim something,
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:19 AM
Jan 2021

claims he owns 2 houses close to Mar-el-Loco.

samplegirl

(13,984 posts)
9. Maybe they could
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 07:27 AM
Jan 2021

moved in with Lindsay Graham or I’m sure My pillow guy wouldn’t mind house guests.

Maxheader

(4,419 posts)
13. insane, terrorist promoter living in their state?
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:05 AM
Jan 2021

Gotta be some that understand how wrong that is. .

Ford_Prefect

(8,610 posts)
15. I hear there's a rather cute condo going for a song at Lompoc.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:28 AM
Jan 2021

Some people say they have a special deal for recovering addicts and power brokers who need a bit of extra federal supervision.

Blue Owl

(59,103 posts)
18. The POS has a 21-day shelf life at his own tacky club
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 09:44 AM
Jan 2021

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
22. If it is a residence, no liquor license.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:05 AM
Jan 2021

If it is a residence, no liquor license.

And many other business restrictions.

My Pet Orangutan

(12,598 posts)
29. +!!
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:56 AM
Jan 2021

Catch 45.

Lasher

(29,576 posts)
27. Has the helipad been demolished yet?
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 10:50 AM
Jan 2021

He was only supposed to have it while being president, and it was not to be used by private helicopters.

stopbush

(24,808 posts)
33. Maybe now that tRump is facing eviction Senate Rs will get onboard
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:07 PM
Jan 2021

with Biden’s Covid Relief bill. 😅

Texin

(2,851 posts)
34. What would prevent him from monthly 21 consecutive days then 10ish on a yacht
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:15 PM
Jan 2021

off the coast of Palm Beach, or Miami, etc.? I didn't read details in the article so I don't know if legally he would be precluded from that type of approach or not. I do agree that he'll keep it tied up in lawsuits for as long as it takes to kick the can down the road. It's his wont.

Nitram

(27,749 posts)
37. Trump wouldn't be comfortable staying on a boat that long.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jan 2021

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
41. The agreement he signed prohibits it
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 05:01 PM
Jan 2021

You can stay no more than 7 days at one time or 21 days per year.

When he started the club, the one down the street wouldn’t accept you if you were Jewish or nonwhite. Mar-a-Lago would accept any rich person. But now it’s just a way for Trump to launder money.

Texin

(2,851 posts)
35. What would prevent him from monthly 21 consecutive days then 10ish on a yacht
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:16 PM
Jan 2021

off the coast of Palm Beach, or Miami, etc.? I didn't read details in the article so I don't know if legally he would be precluded from that type of approach or not. I do agree that he'll keep it tied up in lawsuits for as long as it takes to kick the can down the road. It's his wont.

Nitram

(27,749 posts)
36. This has been coming for some time. It will be a battle of lawyers.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 01:17 PM
Jan 2021

lark

(26,081 posts)
39. Bet big bucks DS weighs in and saves drumpf somehow.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 04:09 PM
Jan 2021

It's what little fascists do for the bigger fascists.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,713 posts)
40. I wouldn't want him as my neighbor
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 04:13 PM
Jan 2021

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #40)

Omaha Steve

(109,228 posts)
45. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 08:06 PM
Jan 2021

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