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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 09:13 AM Feb 2021

Exclusive: Dozens of former Bush officials leave Republican Party, calling it 'Trump cult'

Source: Reuters



Mon, February 1, 2021, 6:14 AM
By Tim Reid

(Reuters) - Dozens of Republicans in former President George W. Bush's administration are leaving the party, dismayed by a failure of many elected Republicans to disown Donald Trump after his false claims of election fraud sparked a deadly storming of the U.S. Capitol last month.

These officials, some who served in the highest echelons of the Bush administration, said they had hoped that a Trump defeat would lead party leaders to move on from the former president and denounce his baseless claims that the November presidential election was stolen.

But with most Republican lawmakers sticking to Trump, these officials say they no longer recognize the party they served. Some have ended their membership, others are letting it lapse while a few are newly registered as independents, according to a dozen former Bush officials who spoke with Reuters.

"The Republican Party as I knew it no longer exists. I’d call it the cult of Trump," said Jimmy Gurulé, who was Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence in the Bush administration.

Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-dozens-former-bush-officials-111446506.html

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Exclusive: Dozens of former Bush officials leave Republican Party, calling it 'Trump cult' (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2021 OP
Perhaps trump* has triggered a 3rd party - the Republican Independent Party, aka RIP Siwsan Feb 2021 #1
i like it.has a nice ring to it. mopinko Feb 2021 #6
+1 Auggie Feb 2021 #10
+2 Mike 03 Feb 2021 #17
Perfect! mountain grammy Feb 2021 #22
The cult remnant should be named the "Unrepentant Republikan Party"--URP. lastlib Feb 2021 #28
+10 nt reACTIONary Feb 2021 #35
DUzy!!! WheelWalker Feb 2021 #39
But they were all fine with Carl Rove swift boating John Kerry MaryMagdaline Feb 2021 #2
Tots and Pears Aviation Pro Feb 2021 #3
And pardoning Tom Delay. Oh, and, test driving Trump's playbook. theneworiginal Feb 2021 #31
Perfect compilation of their lawlessness and hypocrisy MaryMagdaline Feb 2021 #33
Spot on. crickets Feb 2021 #45
when you've lost the Bushco. Evil Empire..... Coventina Feb 2021 #4
It just shows how terrible Trump Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #8
Right? How bad are they that even the Bush Crime Family and their accomplices AllyCat Feb 2021 #15
Exactly. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2021 #47
Whatever the republicans do, UpInArms Feb 2021 #5
My favorite hashtag. #GOPTrumpDeathCult efhmc Feb 2021 #12
It's a distillation process... N_E_1 for Tennis Feb 2021 #7
Good use of quotation marks. Harker Feb 2021 #19
Too little, way too late sarge43 Feb 2021 #9
Kids in cages, bounties on US troops flibbitygiblets Feb 2021 #32
Those most of all, plus over 400K dead Americans. sarge43 Feb 2021 #34
They just now noticed. eShirl Feb 2021 #11
Meh, what are they actually gonna do to combat Trump? Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #13
This is NOT good Cosmocat Feb 2021 #14
Most of the party has already been far right extremist with supporr for Trump JI7 Feb 2021 #18
That is the only hope - whether they like it or not the choice is binary Cosmocat Feb 2021 #20
Just two sides of the same mobbed-up coin. Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #16
That isn't going to happen Cosmocat Feb 2021 #21
I remember Bush supporters calling us traitors for not supporting W's ginned-up invasion reasons. Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #24
Same here my friend Cosmocat Feb 2021 #37
I believe that we do need a sane opposition party and I hope a new party will form from... NNadir Feb 2021 #23
An investigation must take place, these people have been compromised Escurumbele Feb 2021 #25
So much pearl clutching, trc Feb 2021 #26
Let the exodus continue!! Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #27
Honestly, the math looks very troubling Cosmocat Feb 2021 #38
Yep, I look for them to come back big in 2022. We can't be complacent. Midnight Writer Feb 2021 #40
It took them this long - Shame on them. They think they deeserve some praise now? c-rational Feb 2021 #29
You know you're in trouble when followers of a War Criminal leave your party. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2021 #30
Nice PR gain, but I'd be excited if they could turn "dozens" into "millions." BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #36
The GOP is a dumpster fire. Can't govern competently, zero ideas bronxiteforever Feb 2021 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author bronxiteforever Feb 2021 #42
And yet, they'll still vote with Republicans anyway sakabatou Feb 2021 #43
YEP ... cause LIBERALS, COMMIES, BABY KILLERS, FLAG BURNERS, ETC. Cosmocat Feb 2021 #46
The repukes should have done that or something else... NealK Feb 2021 #44

theneworiginal

(302 posts)
31. And pardoning Tom Delay. Oh, and, test driving Trump's playbook.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:58 AM
Feb 2021

Politicizing the FCC to keep everyone on message. Threatening dissent ("there oughta be limits on freedom" GHB) Being above the Law, like, say, shooting someone in the face without accountability. And, lest we forget, co-opting military leaders to lie us into war--a shout out to Colon Powell who appears confused about his objection to tRump Tactics of today. I could go on...


Spare me, Assholes. You are hypocrites of the lowest order. We are reaping what you sowed.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
4. when you've lost the Bushco. Evil Empire.....
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 09:50 AM
Feb 2021

I guess you've proved your incompetence?



Sorry, but, not sorry.....these guys get no credit for any sort of "principles."

Turin_C3PO

(13,964 posts)
8. It just shows how terrible Trump
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:05 AM
Feb 2021

and the current Republicans are that they can’t keep the loyalty of a band of war criminals. I’m fine with them speaking out against current Repubs but I don’t want them on our team, trying to drag us rightward.

AllyCat

(16,177 posts)
15. Right? How bad are they that even the Bush Crime Family and their accomplices
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:36 AM
Feb 2021

don't want to stay? No tears here. And no trust either.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
47. Exactly.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:24 PM
Feb 2021

Just like Steve Schmidt & other LPers who are excellent allies in opposing Trump, I don't believe they'll have run far enough away from the Right to be the kind of Dem (if any of the others even become Dems) who will support truly progressive policies.

Harker

(14,012 posts)
19. Good use of quotation marks.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:53 AM
Feb 2021

Sanity is merely relative.

Pushing the envelope has been their play for so long that it's starting to turn back on them.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
34. Those most of all, plus over 400K dead Americans.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 12:48 PM
Feb 2021

As long as they were 'winning', that's all that mattered.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
13. Meh, what are they actually gonna do to combat Trump?
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:28 AM
Feb 2021

If all they do is make some petulant declaration of separation from the party, who cares?

Will that take any voters away from the crazies running the party now?

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
14. This is NOT good
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:33 AM
Feb 2021

The party is ceding itself to the crazies.

This is really the worst case scenario, you would like to have seen the trump wing break off into a third party.

What is happening now is that 95% of the party will be calcify around the Greene lunatics.

For all their big talk, they are spineless POS ...

JI7

(89,247 posts)
18. Most of the party has already been far right extremist with supporr for Trump
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:50 AM
Feb 2021

these people need to join with Democrats to defeat them.

They need to destroy the Republican party as it is now before they can change it.

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
20. That is the only hope - whether they like it or not the choice is binary
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:54 AM
Feb 2021

Steve Schmidt gets it - he fought it a bit trying to support the Starbucks guy, but he got there. Registered D, said he knew there were things he would not agree with the Ds on, but that the choice is us (reason, decency, the concept of a democracy) vs them (a freakshow chrisofascist authoritarian state).

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
21. That isn't going to happen
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:57 AM
Feb 2021

Cause they will default the common enemy - us.

There simply is too great of a mass that has been sucked into the freakshow.

They are a SMALL portion of the "right" side of this country.

This is a us vs them moment.

Either they are with us or they are with them.

Efilroft Sul

(3,578 posts)
24. I remember Bush supporters calling us traitors for not supporting W's ginned-up invasion reasons.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:07 AM
Feb 2021

And Team Bush did nothing to lower the rhetoric in 2002 and 2003. I'm not one to forget that, nor forgive them for the loss of all the blood and treasure suffered in Iraq. In short, the enemy of our enemy isn't necessarily our friend.

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
37. Same here my friend
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 01:27 PM
Feb 2021

It of course means nothing now, but I still remember and hold a grudge for all the assholes who slagged up for ENABLING THE TERRORISTS! when we called bullshit on Iraq.

The ginned up enough nationalism to get Bush II reelected, then slunk back into their holes, only to reemerge as the "Tea Party" when we were so vile as to pass THEIR FUCKING VERSION of health care reform.

And, for good measure, I remember Nwet Gingrich and all the asshole like Joe Scarborough who got swept into congress in 1994 and spent the next 6 years crawling up Bill Clinton's ass, desperately trying to find something to take him down before impeaching him for ... lying about a blow job. Oh, the vapors the likes of Lindsey Graham had over how that was the biggest threat our country has ever seen ... Now of course.

I saw this was where we headed way back then ...

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
23. I believe that we do need a sane opposition party and I hope a new party will form from...
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:04 AM
Feb 2021

...the disaffected.

When our ideas are challenged in a sane manner, defending them causes the ideas to strengthen.

I am a Democrat, something of which I am proud, but I am not dancing in the streets because of the on going self destruction of the Republican party. Of course, the opposition party I'd like to see would be that of Gerald Ford, one that existed a long time ago.

It is ironic that the last American political party to self destruct was the Whig Party - which had been the party of Abraham Lincoln - and it also fell apart because of racism, a racism far more virulent than the racism that defines the modern Republican party of course, that being slavery.

The Whigs were notable for their support of government funded infrastructure, something that is anathema to modern Republicans, whose entire existence has now boiled down to racist craziness.

Putin must be dancing with joy.

Escurumbele

(3,386 posts)
25. An investigation must take place, these people have been compromised
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:16 AM
Feb 2021

They act scared, you can see it in their faces, when they speak, they are trembling inside. What did trump and the Russians do to these people to make them so afraid? I don't buy the "base" stuff, they are scared that a lot of dirt is going to be outed and they may even face jail time.

What did trump say/do to Lindsey Graham to make him take a U-Turn only after a game of Golf? It was definitely not trump's selling skills, we know he has zero, something was said that day to Graham that the next day he became an official lap dog for the buffoon.

INVESTIGATE!

trc

(823 posts)
26. So much pearl clutching,
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:17 AM
Feb 2021

but they will still vote for republicans at all levels. Won't make any difference at all.

Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
27. Let the exodus continue!!
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:26 AM
Feb 2021

I find it interesting the little Kevin says they are poised to regain the house in ‘22...yet you are driving everyone away...good thinking kevie!!

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
38. Honestly, the math looks very troubling
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 01:31 PM
Feb 2021

They made gains this cycle, they only need a few seat to flip it.

They are losing a very nominal number of the party - most are perfectly fine with it and just as angry and determined as before.

Meanwhile, mid term, after a huge GOTV to win the presidency, what do dems do ???

Not show up.



bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
41. The GOP is a dumpster fire. Can't govern competently, zero ideas
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:18 PM
Feb 2021

to lead the Country & a combination of the vilest party leaders in modern history. The only things left are rage demons, Nazis and Qanon shamans. The suburban vote may be lost for a generation if we are lucky.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
46. YEP ... cause LIBERALS, COMMIES, BABY KILLERS, FLAG BURNERS, ETC.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:17 PM
Feb 2021

The biggest problem BY FAR is going on a half a century of them skull screwing the country to thing we are the spawn of satan.

NealK

(1,864 posts)
44. The repukes should have done that or something else...
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 02:41 PM
Feb 2021

when Newt Gingrich started to gain traction. He was one of the first to be such a nasty prick.

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