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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,984 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 09:25 PM Feb 2021

Over 16,000 Christians Demand Cancellation of Josh Hawley's New Book Deal

Source: Newsweek

More than 16,000 Christians have signed a petition demanding the cancellation of GOP Senator Josh Hawley's new book deal in the wake of his objection to President Joe Biden's Electoral College victory and the violent attack on the Capitol by a pro–Donald Trump mob on January 6.

Faithful America, which describes itself as the largest online community of Christians advocating for social justice, first launched the petition last week. As of early Monday afternoon, the petition had been signed by more than 16,580 people.

Although publisher Simon & Schuster nixed its plan to publish Hawley's book, Regnery Publishing—which is owned by Salem Media Group—now plans to publish it. The petition also referenced Christian author and radio host Eric Metaxas, whom Regnery will publish as well.

"Senator Josh Hawley and Eric Metaxas both played a significant role in spreading lies about the 2020 election results," the petition says. "There is a direct line between their incendiary language and the deadly insurrection and white nationalism we witnessed at the U.S. Capitol on January 6."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/over-16000-christians-demand-cancellation-of-josh-hawleys-new-book-deal/ar-BB1dijGH?li=BBnbfcL

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Over 16,000 Christians Demand Cancellation of Josh Hawley's New Book Deal (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2021 OP
Seems the gop seditionist's are not having a very good day..sooo sad Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #1
I bet the GOP will buy huge numbers of these books Schmice3 Feb 2021 #2
Yep... SergeStorms Feb 2021 #16
BOO....FUCKING......HOOOO AZ8theist Feb 2021 #3
Really? These are xtians for social justice. SharonClark Feb 2021 #4
Please. They're Christians, not "xtians". Show a little respect. George II Feb 2021 #5
No disrespect intended because Xtian means Christian. SharonClark Feb 2021 #8
Χριστιαν... mbusby Feb 2021 #10
Using Xtians in no way demeans Christians. Laffy Kat Feb 2021 #13
You're barking up the wrong steeple wnylib Feb 2021 #12
ooops AZ8theist Feb 2021 #15
There are a lot of people on the wnylib Feb 2021 #18
Agreed AZ8theist Feb 2021 #19
Well, that's one point where wnylib Feb 2021 #20
well said, spot on. AZ8theist Feb 2021 #22
I have seen the video, Jesus Camp. wnylib Feb 2021 #24
Well good for them n/t TexasBushwhacker Feb 2021 #6
Yeah basically (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Feb 2021 #9
It's Regnery - the home of crackpot BS. It's what they do. thenelm1 Feb 2021 #7
I hate it when these maggots profit from their bad acts or ill-gotten fame. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #11
I don't understand the relevance of Christians in this context. Can anyone enlighten me? Nitram Feb 2021 #14
Guilt Teddy Beer Feb 2021 #17
well. seems the Christians are finally upset about something. riversedge Feb 2021 #21
Jesus: "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! BrightKnight Feb 2021 #23

Schmice3

(294 posts)
2. I bet the GOP will buy huge numbers of these books
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 09:59 PM
Feb 2021

to make it seem like there's a groundswell of support for that traitor. They did it for Jr. after all.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
16. Yep...
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:00 AM
Feb 2021

it'll still crack the top 10 on the NYT best seller list, because every right-wing website will buy thousands and give them away free as a "gift" for supporting their asshole cause of the week. They did with Ann-the-man Coulter's books, and they continue to do it to this day. One thing about republicans, they stick together and take care of their own, at least monetarily.

AZ8theist

(5,461 posts)
3. BOO....FUCKING......HOOOO
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:07 PM
Feb 2021

You assholes CREATED the current FASCISM in the United States...

You OWN IT.
You can't walk it back now. YOU OWN IT.

Laffy Kat

(16,378 posts)
13. Using Xtians in no way demeans Christians.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:36 AM
Feb 2021

It's a perfectly acceptable diminutive. It has been used for over 900 years.

wnylib

(21,454 posts)
12. You're barking up the wrong steeple
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 11:51 PM
Feb 2021

in your rush to condemn. It's usually a good idea to know what you are condemning before you do it. This is what the group, Faithful America, says on their website.

https://act.faithfulamerica.org/signup/about-us

"Faithful America eas formed in 2004. We are the largest online community of Christians putting faith into action for social justice. Our members are sick of sitting by quietly while Jesus' message of good news is hijacked by the religious right to serve a hateful political agenda."

It goes on to describe what they support and what they oppose, then lists successes that I think most DUers would agree with, regardless of who is doing it.

AZ8theist

(5,461 posts)
15. ooops
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 01:08 AM
Feb 2021

Sorry but I find most religious organizations distasteful. Perhaps I was quick to judge....

Wouldn't be the first time.

wnylib

(21,454 posts)
18. There are a lot of people on the
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 07:12 AM
Feb 2021

religious left, like President Biden and Senator Warnock. Usually the religious left just goes about their business, setting up soup kitchens, collecting food and clothing donations to distribute, running immigration agencies to protect human rights, tutoring disadvantaged children, etc., without all the loud noise that the religious right makes.

AZ8theist

(5,461 posts)
19. Agreed
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 07:27 AM
Feb 2021

My disdain for religious beliefs, in general, should exclude berating those who are working to better the human race.
Militant atheists like myself should be much more tolerant of the vast scope of human endeavors around us.

But it is sometimes hard for me, or others like me, to tolerate the "loud noise" of those who proclaim to be following the teachings of Jesus and the Bible, when they CLEARLY have not read or studied either, yet claim to be spokespersons for both.

Christian hypocrisy by those so-called "followers" creates an untenable position for progress. At least it does for me.

wnylib

(21,454 posts)
20. Well, that's one point where
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 08:29 AM
Feb 2021

atheists and the religious left agree, regarding the hypocrisy of the religious right. You think YOU have a problem with them? Try living up to teachings that have the same label and get lumped in with them. Not to mention that Christianity also teaches its followers not to hate even people like the religious right. Hard row to hoe, and not always successful.

BTW, humanitarian concerns and values are not limited to Christians. There are many Jewish and Muslim agencies that also promote and act on these values.

And I know that concern for human rights and humanitarian causes is not limited to religious people, but atheists have an ethical or moral problem donating to religious organizations. Surely there must be some secular groups dedicated to similar actions.






AZ8theist

(5,461 posts)
22. well said, spot on.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 08:09 PM
Feb 2021

I was fortunate to grow up in a household where religion was not practiced. I was not indoctrinated.
(There are studies that indicate the human mind is most susceptible to influence between the ages of 3 and 14, that's why religious parents and other church members ALWAYS have programs for children. Watch "Jesus Camp"......you'll be horrified..)
To me, the only definitive source of anyone's religion is ENTIRELY dependent on where someone was born. If god existed, this would not be the determining factor. That's why I don't believe: There is no sufficient evidence. Religion therefore becomes a game of con-men fleecing impressionable "followers".
Personally, I don't have a "moral" problem with donations, since I believe "morality" is a societal construct, but I certainly do have an ethical issue since I believe religions are a "net" detriment to society, rather that a plus.
That being said, yes, there are multitudes of secular organizations and groups that promote the betterment of our welfare in our society and I contribute to them as often as I can.
Thanks so much for a reasoned discussion. It's hard to find on line nowadays....

wnylib

(21,454 posts)
24. I have seen the video, Jesus Camp.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 01:02 AM
Feb 2021

It is nothing like any religious education I ever encountered as a child. To suggest that it would be typical of how religions indoctrinate children is to generalize from one example and apply it to all situations.

I did grow up in a religious family. My parents were actively involved in the choir, teaching Sunday School, serving as usher, member of the church council, and advisors for the youth group (teens). Sunday School amounted to learning Biblical stories, the Ten Commandments, the Apostles' Creed, concept of the Trinity. Other concepts that were emphasized were compassion, "Do unto others...," feed the hungry, clothe the needy, do not judge others, do not hate, be willing to forgive. Also a concept called attributes of God - mercy, love, forgiveness, ever present. Pretty much mainstream stuff. No terrifying tales of hellfire and damnation.

I agree that childhood training affects willingness to believe or not. But there are people who do develop religious faith as adults who grew up without it. There are people who grew up with it and chuck it all as adults. As I got older, I gave up literal beliefs in most of what I was taught, but retained the values that were part of it. There's some religious stuff that, IMO, only a simpleton would take literally, on face value. So, for many years, I had no church involvement.

I minored in anthropology, which included studies of religion in various cultures, times, and places. I could see some common threads as well as differences. Looking at other religions made it easier to see the underlying purposes and meanings (social and individual) in their religious beliefs and practices. Applying that approach to what I grew up with, I could see doctrines, rituals, and ceremonies as metaphorical, sometimes as poetic imagery, for deeper meanings behind the rites and stories. To take them literally is to miss the forest for the trees. I know many religious people, including clergy, who view religion the way that I do.

So I got involved in churches again, with a very different perspective on them. Religious people approach religion in different ways, at different levels.

Reasoned discussions become difficult because people get too entrenched in the "rightness" of their views to hear or understand what someone else is saying. I have no interest in converting people to my perspective on religion. When I describe it, it is only to clarify or correct some assumptions made about it.



thenelm1

(854 posts)
7. It's Regnery - the home of crackpot BS. It's what they do.
Mon Feb 1, 2021, 10:39 PM
Feb 2021

Have they ever published a real "best-seller" title that wasn't right-wing and pumped up by bulk sales by the author or pubbie allies? Eliminate the bulk sales and they're likely a defunct publisher.

BrightKnight

(3,567 posts)
23. Jesus: "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 09:08 PM
Feb 2021

Matthew 7:13-14 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Luke 6:46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

A lot of real Christians do actually live their faith. There are many more that are not.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of Democrats here that do not know the difference. Democrats and Christians have a lot of overlapping interests. It would be wise to find common ground.

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