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brooklynite

(94,256 posts)
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 12:03 PM Feb 2021

Tokyo Olympics Chief Suggests Limits for Women at Meetings

Source: New York Times

TOKYO — Organizers of the Tokyo Olympics, already facing rising costs and significant public opposition to this summer’s Games, faced a new furor on Wednesday after the president of the Tokyo organizing committee suggested women talk too much in meetings.

The president, Yoshiro Mori, stoked a social media backlash after news reports emerged of his comments demeaning women during an executive meeting of the Japanese Olympic Committee that was held online.

“On boards with a lot of women, the board meetings take so much time,” Mr. Mori, 83, said to laughter, according to a report in the Asahi Shimbun, one of the country’s largest daily newspapers. “Women have a strong sense of competition. If one person raises their hand, others probably think, I need to say something too. That’s why everyone speaks.”

Mr. Mori, a former prime minister, was responding to a question asking him to comment on the Olympic committee’s plan to increase the number of women board members to more than 40 percent of the total.




Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/sports/olympics/tokyo-olympics-yoshiro-mori.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur



The inscrutable Orient...
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Tokyo Olympics Chief Suggests Limits for Women at Meetings (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2021 OP
Yes Women Talk! McKim Feb 2021 #1
No to "inscrutable Orient" -- male chauvinism is worldwide cp Feb 2021 #2
THIS NotHardly Feb 2021 #8
THIS. MAN. IS. AN. ASS-HOLE. I wish he'd lose his voice for the rest of his live !!!! trueblue2007 Feb 2021 #24
CP, It is true that male chauvinism is world-wide. However, Japan is farther behind the curve than Nitram Feb 2021 #12
and I don't like the term oriental or Orient either yuiyoshida Feb 2021 #16
If Mori would resign then his problem would be resolved. SharonClark Feb 2021 #3
Oh! That's a good one. underpants Feb 2021 #4
Mr. Mori should come visit my house. luvs2sing Feb 2021 #5
OMG. The "women talk too much" trope Mike 03 Feb 2021 #6
Huh? moreland01 Feb 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Miguelito Loveless Feb 2021 #9
Wishing for the death of others is certainly a mark of one's own virtue... N/T Jedi Guy Feb 2021 #13
You are correct Miguelito Loveless Feb 2021 #17
OMG! Stuck in the 19th Century. Nitram Feb 2021 #10
Stupid old man. (nt) Paladin Feb 2021 #11
Well he is 83 LittleGirl Feb 2021 #14
They'll certainly have a lot to talk about when he is forced to resign. FSogol Feb 2021 #15
Not inscrutable, just too damn old RainCaster Feb 2021 #18
Lived in Japan NHvet Feb 2021 #19
Maybe if the men would listen they would LEARN something Miigwech Feb 2021 #20
This is so 50's, I'm lmfao every time I read it. This guy has obviously Greybnk48 Feb 2021 #21
HAAAAA! But trump never made any sense too, so it was even worse! oldsoftie Feb 2021 #26
This is Why i Have Never Wanted to Visit Japan McKim Feb 2021 #22
Thats hilarious. "Furor". Silliness. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #23
I was working on a business deal with a Japanese firm. GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #25
A friend of mine barbtries Feb 2021 #30
.So they're being too "uppity"? n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2021 #27
IMO, he's a candidate for the "Sit Your Ass Down" Award. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2021 #28
he hasn't figured out barbtries Feb 2021 #29
After the backlash, he's favored to win gold in the 500-meter Walkback. Efilroft Sul Feb 2021 #31
OFFS... sakabatou Feb 2021 #32
After 30 years in the corporate world... VarryOn Feb 2021 #33

McKim

(2,412 posts)
1. Yes Women Talk!
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 12:06 PM
Feb 2021

Yes women talk and that helps them think of new ideas, it's a process that has better outcomes than closed minds who say little. As Harris said: "I am speaking!!"

Nitram

(22,749 posts)
12. CP, It is true that male chauvinism is world-wide. However, Japan is farther behind the curve than
Reply to cp (Reply #2)
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 01:44 PM
Feb 2021

most. Recent revelations that Japan’s leading medical school had manipulated entrance exam scores to exclude women for more than a decade generated global headlines. Leading high schools require high school entrance exams, but because girls tend to score higher in those examinations, schools require them to have higher scores than boys for enrollment.

In 2017, journalist Shiori Ito became the first Japanese woman to speak publicly about the sexual violence she had experienced, after prosecutors decided to drop her case. Instead of being praised for her courage in speaking out, she faced a public backlash including death threats. Women and men branded her an embarrassment and she was mocked on television by Japanese officials for immoral behavior and accused of sleeping around to advance her career. Anonymous threats made her feel so unsafe that she eventually moved to the UK.

https://www.amnesty.org.au/japans-sexism-problem-runs-deep/

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
5. Mr. Mori should come visit my house.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 12:23 PM
Feb 2021

and spend an afternoon with introverted me and my never-has-an-unexpressed-thought Hubster.

Seriously..what a frickin jerk!

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
6. OMG. The "women talk too much" trope
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 12:36 PM
Feb 2021

Something out of a 70s sitcom, perhaps?

Haven't heard that one in decades.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

RainCaster

(10,792 posts)
18. Not inscrutable, just too damn old
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 03:33 PM
Feb 2021

I spent years working for a Japanese firm, and conservative doesn't even begin to describe it. I could see it on the commute trains every day, and in the offices too. After hours, at the bars. I miss many things about that job, but not the male dominance.

NHvet

(240 posts)
19. Lived in Japan
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 03:54 PM
Feb 2021

for a few years some 40 yrs ago, seems that the roles for men and women in Japan hasn't evolved at all in the years that have passed.

Greybnk48

(10,161 posts)
21. This is so 50's, I'm lmfao every time I read it. This guy has obviously
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 04:18 PM
Feb 2021

never watched a Trump marathon bloviation, or watched the right wingmen on FOX/OAN/NEWSMAX.

Want to bet one or more of the women on his committee are coming up with ideas that are better than his?

McKim

(2,412 posts)
22. This is Why i Have Never Wanted to Visit Japan
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 04:22 PM
Feb 2021

This is why I have never wanted to visit Japan! It is disgusting. A lot of young Japanese women have come to the US to marry better and get away from that society where marriage means lonely servitude.

oldsoftie

(12,479 posts)
23. Thats hilarious. "Furor". Silliness.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 04:58 PM
Feb 2021

I'm glad everyone at the meeting laughed too
Hope nobody here ever goes to a comedy club

Save the furor for people who actually mean harm

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
25. I was working on a business deal with a Japanese firm.
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 04:59 PM
Feb 2021

They came to Florida and after the meeting we took them to eat. And drink, man did they drink.

Anyway there were 3 Tables and seating was strictly by rank. My leader at the time was a female and the translator suggested on the side that she should not sit at the ‘head’ table even though I was. I of course rejected the request out of hand. Deal fell apart. Don’t regret it a bit.

barbtries

(28,752 posts)
30. A friend of mine
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 06:06 PM
Feb 2021

who was a VP, was at a meeting with a Japanese firm. One of the men was clearly disturbed that she was part of the meeting. I don't recall the details, but he did not want her there, and the only reason was that she was a woman.

DinahMoeHum

(21,766 posts)
28. IMO, he's a candidate for the "Sit Your Ass Down" Award. . .
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 05:59 PM
Feb 2021

. . .courtesy of Dave Zirin, sports editor at The Nation magazine and host of the weekly Edge of Sports podcast.

https://audioboom.com/channel/edge-of-sports

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
33. After 30 years in the corporate world...
Wed Feb 3, 2021, 09:24 PM
Feb 2021

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The blowhard, smartest-person-in-the-room will always be a man. And they generally love the sound of their own voice, usually play golf, will always top anything you ever did, wont hesitate to correct someone, and totally ignore it's past time for the meeting to be over.

I bet you anything Mr. Mori is the same son-of-a-bitch, except he cheered for the wrong team in WWII.

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