'We are coming for them': Feds charge West Coast Proud Boys leader in Capitol riot investigation
Source: USA Today
Another leader of the Proud Boys, an extremist group with ties to white nationalism, was charged Wednesday in connection with the Capitol riots, as federal authorities continue to scrutinize the group's ties to the deadly assault.
Ethan Nordean, the self-described "sergeant-at-arms" for the group's Seattle chapter, was charged with obstructing Congress, aiding and abetting and entering restricted grounds as part the mob that breached the Capitol building.
Nordean, also known as Rufio Panman, is one of a half-dozen group members now charged in the assault.
Two of the members arrested last month were separately named in a federal indictment Wednesday formally charging Honolulu leader Nicholas Ochs and Nicholas DeCarlo of Burleson, Texas, with obstructing Congress, theft of government property and three counts of unlawful entry.
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BumRushDaShow
(128,441 posts)TomSlick
(11,088 posts)I suggesting retaining counsel - in DC - and start putting together money for bail.
Normanart
(279 posts)List all of these groups as "Terrorist organizations"
ancianita
(35,932 posts)StarryNite
(9,435 posts)wnylib
(21,340 posts)If they were listed as terrorist organizations, would that be grounds to arrest any of the members, just for belonging to one of these groups?
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Normanart
(279 posts)of DU members qualified to answer your question. Looking at what I have found, calling a group a "terrorist organization" allows the government to seize assets, seize property, and make bank accounts unavailable. Arrests are made for specific crimes, not for membership.
Domestic terrorists are not charged with "terrorism", but other crimes defined by law.
Any legal experts out there, feel free to inform us if I am in error.
wnylib
(21,340 posts)to shut these groups down.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)iluvtennis
(19,833 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
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plimsoll
(1,667 posts)I think we should be allowed to know where seditionists live.
Kind of like sex offenders, we should know when guys like this are in our neighborhood.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,741 posts)plimsoll
(1,667 posts)Social stigma.
Parents too.
DBoon
(22,340 posts)Is someone I should know to avoid
If a "proud boy" lived in my neighborhood, I would walk on the other side of the street and park my car far away
plimsoll
(1,667 posts)I wouldn't cross the street to piss on him if he were on fire either.
TryLogic
(1,722 posts)Nitram
(22,765 posts)kimmylavin
(2,284 posts)Is that a reference to the movie, "Hook?"
Rufio is the leader of the lost boys, after Peter Pan leaves Neverland.
These guys really like thinking of themselves as little boys, don't they?
I wonder why?
RockRaven
(14,899 posts)Sort of like those posts that people put on social media from time to time like "your porn star name is the name of your first pet and the street you lived on" or "your private detective name is the last video game character you played and what you ate for breakfast"
I think one part of the name has something to do with some part of their initiation, but I really don't recall, except the overwhelming impression that it was stupid, silly bullshit.
Johnny2X2X
(18,969 posts)This group are thugs. Their leaders are terrorists. Not sure the whole group should be tagged as a terrorist group, but they definitely need to be broken up.
orangecrush
(19,409 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)There were a bunch of Chicago street gangs around where I grew up.
They were mostly white guys, and they were garden variety brawlers and petty thieves.
They weren't drug dealers. They just liked to fight, and "protect the neighborhood", as they saw it. There were racial overtones.
They could do some damage at full strength, but very few were actually that tough on their own.
This was before the gangs started shooting at each other.