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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 11:35 AM Feb 2021

Militia alliance in Georgia signals new phase for extremist paramilitaries

Source: Atlanta Journal Constitution


‘We are going to see a lot of this coalition building with some pretty nasty actors,’ says one expert.

By Chris Joyner, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

The leader of a private paramilitary group that provided security for Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said he has formed alliances with other far-right groups to advocate for Georgia’s secession from the union, following the arrests of participants in the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

“The way patriots are now being hunted down and arrested by fellow men and women who have taken the same oath has disheartened any faith I had in the redemption or reformation of the USA as one entity,” Justin Thayer, head of the Georgia III% Martyrs, said in a text exchange with The Atlanta Journal-Constitution this week.

Thayer said the Martyrs have allied themselves with fellow “Three Percenter” militia the American Brotherhood of Patriots and American Patriots USA (APUSA), a north Georgia group headed by Chester Doles, a Dahlonega resident who belonged to various racist and neo-Nazi hate groups before forming the new group in 2019. The combined groups will advocate for Georgia’s secession from the union through an amendment to the U.S. Constitution or through “the collapse of the American experiment,” Thayer said.

“For the last 150 years, the Imperial Yankee culture of the northeast has been molding Georgia — and the South in general — into its ‘perfect’ image,” he said.


Read more: https://www.ajc.com/news/militia-alliance-in-georgia-signals-new-phase-for-extremist-paramilitaries/UD2JMQV5A5EABHHAKBQZBK2IVY/

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Militia alliance in Georgia signals new phase for extremist paramilitaries (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2021 OP
Umm... the South lost jpak Feb 2021 #1
Sounds like a sweetheart ouija Feb 2021 #28
And The Only Reason It Was Close modrepub Feb 2021 #30
They always said the South will rise again. I guess they're doing it now. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #2
+1 Watch kids & dogs dig through garbage heaps for scraps of food, it changes you. CaptainTruth Feb 2021 #45
Exactly. You return home with a deep appreciation of the US. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #46
So .. bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #3
Yes Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2021 #18
Their endgame cagefreesoylentgreen Feb 2021 #38
The South *Is* Rising Roy Rolling Feb 2021 #4
Is GITMO still operational ? Nt jaysunb Feb 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author jaysunb Feb 2021 #6
Georgia III% Martyrs. Really? marble falls Feb 2021 #7
I'm thinking they are the Georgia version of the suicide squad from Life of Brian. Ford_Prefect Feb 2021 #17
Sounds Like They Took A Page From The Playbook Of COL Mustard Feb 2021 #52
And if a Muslim even said the word 'Martyr', the whole state of Georgia would go into lockdown ck4829 Feb 2021 #55
Fuck these assholes. Ilsa Feb 2021 #8
Fuck this asshole and his followers............what oath did this fucker take turbinetree Feb 2021 #9
A lot of these shitheads are ex-cops and ex-military CanonRay Feb 2021 #11
They should be brought back into service court martialed and then jailed...... turbinetree Feb 2021 #16
I think that only applies to officers receiving a pension CanonRay Feb 2021 #26
Yes, We Trained Them!!!! McKim Feb 2021 #27
The "OATH" I think he is referring to is CONGRESS's OATH to defend Constitution.... TigressDem Feb 2021 #61
Imperial Yankee Culture of the Northeast.... reACTIONary Feb 2021 #10
Why are they not considered terrorist organizations?? Canada does!! Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #12
That pisses me off too. HUAJIAO Feb 2021 #34
Georgia volatility ksactivism Feb 2021 #13
First, it's a good way to get the FBI on them. ancianita Feb 2021 #14
The militias aren't interested in democracy because TeamProg Feb 2021 #19
They are not militias. They are terrorists. HUAJIAO Feb 2021 #37
Sounds like a good time for businesses to leave GA! TeamProg Feb 2021 #15
so true! penbo Feb 2021 #67
Please proceed...n/m orwell Feb 2021 #20
I'd expect quite a few doors have been knocked on recently... EarthFirst Feb 2021 #21
"Imperial Yankee culture of the northeast"... BadGimp Feb 2021 #22
Neo-Confederates. I've.... reACTIONary Feb 2021 #44
Time for Rebl2 Feb 2021 #23
Dream on, dickheads Auggie Feb 2021 #24
So the Proud Boys are going full ISIS then? Great. Initech Feb 2021 #25
Terrorists. Round them up and lock them up. Politicub Feb 2021 #29
The All-Oxy Martyr Brigade dalton99a Feb 2021 #31
Good thing they're not terrorists IronLionZion Feb 2021 #32
Just makes it easier for the FBI to round them all up Yeehah Feb 2021 #33
Please continue to advertise your names and locations to the Federal authorities. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2021 #35
I hope AG Garland beefs up the FBI to get these groups in jail. Lonestarblue Feb 2021 #36
"Georgia Martyrs"? cactusfractal Feb 2021 #39
Makes them more visible and easier to find and monitor. Nitram Feb 2021 #40
still fundraising & recruiting via Patreon & Discord? godfree2 Feb 2021 #41
Good article. Thanks for posting the link. HUAJIAO Feb 2021 #42
They already tried this 160 years ago tiredtoo Feb 2021 #43
Do they not realize THEY can just secede? Pack your stuff & leave! CaptainTruth Feb 2021 #47
they are NOT militias. media perpetuating a lie once again nt msongs Feb 2021 #48
"Lost Cause" ideology salves the pride of the forever losers. Solly Mack Feb 2021 #49
Love it of Leave it! 4Q2u2 Feb 2021 #50
Africa don't want them either. nt TigressDem Feb 2021 #60
I know 4Q2u2 Feb 2021 #64
LOL - They can TUX up and march with the Penguins!! nt TigressDem Feb 2021 #65
I'd like to see a movie Marthe48 Feb 2021 #51
Go for it Cult 45. Burn in hell. Evolve Dammit Feb 2021 #53
Does it occur to these clowns flotsam Feb 2021 #54
The words "patriot' or even "militia" do not even remotely describe what these scum are. hadEnuf Feb 2021 #56
When the only thing you know how to do is shoot a gun... nt Progressive Jones Feb 2021 #57
The Martyrs? Captain Zero Feb 2021 #58
Yeah, you can call it KKK or you can call it 3%er or APUSA but racist bastard BS is what it is. TigressDem Feb 2021 #59
excellent...get them all together... cntrfthrs Feb 2021 #62
Someone is shopping for Corgigal Feb 2021 #63
secession, pfffft FormerOstrich Feb 2021 #66

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
30. And The Only Reason It Was Close
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 01:46 PM
Feb 2021

was the South's use of slave labor to keep its economy going and assist in the war effort. The Confederate army used impressed slaves to build fortifications and generally assist in operations, though slave owners didn't like it and often tried to skirt the government from "seizing" their slaves. Another reason the Emancipation Proclamation was just another war time decision to help end the Civil War as it was to express the basic foundations of the Republic ("all men are created equal&quot .

Irish_Dem

(47,050 posts)
2. They always said the South will rise again. I guess they're doing it now.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 11:40 AM
Feb 2021

I wish some of these idiots would travel outside the US to some third world countries to fully grasp how lucky they are.

CaptainTruth

(6,591 posts)
45. +1 Watch kids & dogs dig through garbage heaps for scraps of food, it changes you.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 03:32 PM
Feb 2021

At least it changed me.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
18. Yes
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 12:39 PM
Feb 2021

1. Destroy the United States

2. Destroy the United States and make a new white supremacist country.

3. Destroy the United States and make a new christo-fascist white male supremacist country.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
4. The South *Is* Rising
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 11:46 AM
Feb 2021

Powered by African-American economic gains.

Somebody said it’s people making $40,000 a year who say raising the $7.25 minimum wage will destroy the economy.

The South is rising (economically), and that’s what makes some people mad. They like people to stay in their place.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
52. Sounds Like They Took A Page From The Playbook Of
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 05:06 PM
Feb 2021

The Martyrs for The Ultimate Liberation Of Palestine (or Angola, Or Indonesia, Or....You Get The Picture).

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
9. Fuck this asshole and his followers............what oath did this fucker take
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 12:07 PM
Feb 2021

Georgia III% Martyrs...........

McKim

(2,412 posts)
27. Yes, We Trained Them!!!!
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 01:39 PM
Feb 2021

Yes we trained them. This what we in the Peace Movement call "Bringing the War Home!". They become accustomed to the violence of war and bring it home with them. This is an unintended consequence of our wars of choice abroad. These wars are expensive in more ways than just dollars!

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
61. The "OATH" I think he is referring to is CONGRESS's OATH to defend Constitution....
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 10:57 PM
Feb 2021

He's just mad they are defending it AGAINST THEIR INSURRECTION.

He doesn't "get it".

Like others said before, the South lost.


If he is too dumb to figure it out and brings his guns to DC, then he can have a nice cell with 10 other guys just like him.


HUAJIAO

(2,385 posts)
34. That pisses me off too.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 02:52 PM
Feb 2021

All these news organizations calling them "militias."

gobbledeegook.. The National Guard is a MILITIA.

ksactivism

(76 posts)
13. Georgia volatility
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 12:18 PM
Feb 2021

Georgia is truly a bizarre state. I am from the midwest and I can't get a grasp for Georgia politics to save my life. It seems like they are all over the place!

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
14. First, it's a good way to get the FBI on them.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 12:19 PM
Feb 2021

Second, they misname their alliance & insult the meaning of "martyr" to hide their KKK intent.

No one fighting and dying to preserve white supremacy is a martyr.

They are liars, dividers and threateners.

They pretend to themselves that organizing for patriotism isn't cover for mayhem. MTG included.

Their pretenses hide their danger to Black people, rule of law and even themselves.
They are unconscious.



TeamProg

(6,129 posts)
19. The militias aren't interested in democracy because
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 12:41 PM
Feb 2021

Democracy is a threat to white supremacy.

They are OK with democracy for whites, but not for all, and they can still keep a straight face and call that "democracy".

They're warped beyond repair.

And if they're slightly religious, they could be an even bigger threat IMHO.

TeamProg

(6,129 posts)
15. Sounds like a good time for businesses to leave GA!
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 12:28 PM
Feb 2021

GA is going to become increasingly destabilized. What nation-wide business needs that?

penbo

(6 posts)
67. so true!
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 03:08 PM
Feb 2021

Mohawk and Syntex sell carpet and textiles around the entire country and world.
Will people really want to support people working for these companies buying these products?
Keeping the citizens of Rome Ga. who all voted for a fascist dictator and a Qanon nut employed?

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
21. I'd expect quite a few doors have been knocked on recently...
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 12:54 PM
Feb 2021

...and if not; I’d expect them to be shortly.

Keep the pressure on these extremist groups; their membership networks; funding sources; etc. -and do not relent in the slightest.

Let them feel the pressure; it will further increase the odds that they attempt to organize.

The first sign that a single law has been broken; pull them in and perp walk every single one of them.

There’s no room for this to gain any further foothold in this country. We already have an extremist group problem; we cannot allow it to get any further organized.

dalton99a

(81,485 posts)
31. The All-Oxy Martyr Brigade
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 01:53 PM
Feb 2021


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Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades:



NoMoreRepugs

(9,423 posts)
35. Please continue to advertise your names and locations to the Federal authorities.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 02:52 PM
Feb 2021

These are some brilliant tacticians.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
36. I hope AG Garland beefs up the FBI to get these groups in jail.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 02:53 PM
Feb 2021

To help in that effort, Dems need to pass some new laws on domestic terrorism and outlaw citizen militias completely. All 50 states already have laws against citizen militias, but they obviously are not being enforced. The Second Amendment does not give militias the right to organize either (District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 621 (2008) (citing Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)). In both decisions, the Supreme Court decided that the Second Amendment “does not prevent the prohibition of private paramilitary organizations.”

All 50 states prohibit private, unauthorized militias and military units from engaging in activities reserved for the state militia, including law enforcement activities. The militias tried some law enforcement by appearing at BLM protests to help the police and intimidate protesters, and they were allowed to get away with it. For the most part, though, they seem more intent on government tyranny. Right-wing writers and militias have used the argument that the Second Amendment gives them the right to organize to fight tyranny by the government, even though it clearly does not according to the opinions cited above.

Here is a link to an interesting Atlantic article from 2011 debunking the whole Second Amendment argument. Here’s an interesting paragraph about the notion of insurrection that we certainly recognize today.

“But that image of a Mad Max republic lives on in the fringes of the national imagination. It is what authors Joshua Horwitz and Casey Anderson call "the insurrectionist idea," the notion that the Constitution enshrines an individual right to nullify laws an armed citizen objects to. Its most prominent recent expression came from Senate candidate Sharon Angle, who predicted that if she was unable to defeat Democratic Sen. Harry Reid at the ballot box (which she couldn't), citizens would turn to "Second Amendment remedies"--in essence, assassination. Rand Paul also likes to hint that the remedy for rejection of his libertarian policies may be hot lead.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/06/constitutional-myth-6-the-second-amendment-allows-citizens-to-threaten-government/241298/

cactusfractal

(496 posts)
39. "Georgia Martyrs"?
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 03:06 PM
Feb 2021

Sounds better as "Al-Shuhada' Jurjia".

I mean, same thing but for the direction they read their holy book and BBQ.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
43. They already tried this 160 years ago
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 03:17 PM
Feb 2021

Didn't work out well for them then and it won't work out well for them now.

Solly Mack

(90,765 posts)
49. "Lost Cause" ideology salves the pride of the forever losers.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 03:52 PM
Feb 2021

Dangerous people with their revenge fantasies, their lifetime grievances of a well nurtured persecution complex, and their fear-driven delusions of someone taking their guns.

Terrorist group. Nothing but.

One big terrorist group.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
64. I know
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 02:13 PM
Feb 2021

Just wanted to burn them with their own words.

I hear Antarctica is wonderful this time of year.

Marthe48

(16,950 posts)
51. I'd like to see a movie
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 04:28 PM
Feb 2021

an update to Its a Wonderful Life. The idiot militias intent on destroying the U.S.A. get hit on the head, enter a fantasy world and go right to jail. Because in their dream world, the U.S.A. never existed and no other country in the world would let them get away with their nonsense.

(see putin/russia/opponent jailed. See Myanmar. See any regime anywhere in the world)

hadEnuf

(2,190 posts)
56. The words "patriot' or even "militia" do not even remotely describe what these scum are.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 07:23 PM
Feb 2021

They are sworn enemies of the United States who are amassing weapons and people to threaten and carry out violence against American citizens.

They are terrorists organizations and should all be destroyed.

No more coddling or making excuses for these enemies. Period.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
59. Yeah, you can call it KKK or you can call it 3%er or APUSA but racist bastard BS is what it is.
Thu Feb 4, 2021, 10:52 PM
Feb 2021

MORE GEORGIANS VOTED BLUE.

THAT is WHY Biden WON.

GEORGIA may ask Y'all to find some other state to make nasty with, do declare the turd blossoms are blooming early this year.

Bless their little hearts.





Shout out to all the DU DEMs in Georgia.

Did I get my Southern syntax right?

Just a damn Yankee, but I try.


FormerOstrich

(2,702 posts)
66. secession, pfffft
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:38 PM
Feb 2021

Which of these brainiacs are going to establish new currencies, trade agreements, tax authorities, food distribution, and other essential country-of-your-own kind of things.

I'm thinking they haven't thought this thru very well.

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