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Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 03:43 AM Feb 2021

Wisconsin teachers put on administrative leave after asking students how they would 'punish' a slave

Source: Business Insider

salarshani@businessinsider.com (Sarah Al-Arshani) 28 mins ago

Sixth graders at Patrick Marsh Middle School were asked to determine how a slave should be treated as part of an assignment on ancient Mesopotamia, CNN reported.

"A slave stands before you. This slave has disrespected his master by telling him, 'You are not my master!' How will you punish this slave?'" the assignment read.
The assignment said the answer was "According to Hammurabi's Code: put to death."
The Code of Hammurabi is the oldest and most complete written legal code. The 282 rules that make up the code include harsh punishments and concepts like an eye for an eye.

Sun Prairie Area School District did not reply to Insider's email request for comment, but in a statement sent to parents said they were investigating the incident, WMTV reported.

"We deeply regret that this lesson took place, and we also recognize that this was a breakdown in our curricular processes and our district-wide focus on equity," the statement said. "In addition to immediately addressing this situation, it is important that we commit to changing our curriculum and professional development for all staff."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wisconsin-teachers-put-on-administrative-leave-after-asking-students-how-they-would-punish-a-slave/ar-BB1dpmfj?li=BBnb7Kz

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Wisconsin teachers put on administrative leave after asking students how they would 'punish' a slave (Original Post) Judi Lynn Feb 2021 OP
Betsy DeVos secondwind Feb 2021 #1
This and another article I read presented the assignment a little differently: progree Feb 2021 #2
Hmm... Mike Nelson Feb 2021 #3
Wisconsin is what is called an open territory state, versus state adoption states like CA. Lonestarblue Feb 2021 #10
Thank you for that information! Mike Nelson Feb 2021 #14
That wasn't even what that Code said! moriah Feb 2021 #4
BINGO... pbmus Feb 2021 #15
Teach them about WWI and WWII twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #5
Definitely not age appropriate. ananda Feb 2021 #6
agree jonstl08 Feb 2021 #17
The teacher didn't think things through. Ill-conceived, but not pro-slavery or evil... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #7
Agreed! usaf-vet Feb 2021 #16
Agree jonstl08 Feb 2021 #18
Micro Management Style Roy Rolling Feb 2021 #8
Perspective from an African American; djacq Feb 2021 #9
US history courses give short shrift to the whole topic of slavery. Lonestarblue Feb 2021 #12
Thank you... I'll take a look. djacq Feb 2021 #13
Teacher sounds like a sadist, pure and simple Cozmo Feb 2021 #11

progree

(10,904 posts)
2. This and another article I read presented the assignment a little differently:
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 04:59 AM
Feb 2021

Wis. Teachers Suspended After Lesson Asks Of Students: How To Punish A Slave?
WCCO-TV (Minneapolis CBS affiliiate), 2/2/21
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/02/02/wis-teachers-suspended-after-lesson-asks-of-students-how-to-punish-a-slave/

... The lesson was meant to show the politics of ancient Mesopotamia and included one scenario that stated, ”A slave stands before you. This slave has disrespected his master by telling him ‘You are not my master’ How will you punish this slave?” It further explained that under Hammurabi’s Code the slave would be put to death.


In this take, the student is probably expected to come up with some lesser punishment. Which is awful chilling, thinking of what 6th graders' imaginations can come up with. My guess is answers like 100 lashes and a year of hard labor at a reeducation camp. Or cutting out his tongue.

I'm guessing the teachers were looking for and expecting a lot of "fun" answers they could share with their classist and racist buddies.

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
3. Hmm...
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:10 AM
Feb 2021

... the key is that this is an assignment on ancient Mesopotamia. However, I don't recall how/if recall Hammurabi's Code was taught in our sixth grade curriculum. I have CA K-12 teaching credentials. When teaching sixth grade, I don't recall ever departing from curriculum... there are so many required, recommended, and suggested questions - you don't have to come up with any by yourself. And, frankly, teachers don't have a lot of extra time! I would assume this question is from the WI state curriculum and in text form somewhere... they should look at the appropriateness of the wording, and consider the grade level.

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
10. Wisconsin is what is called an open territory state, versus state adoption states like CA.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:18 AM
Feb 2021

In open states, the state does not set specific curriculum guidelines for topics that must be taught at each grade level. Districts set their own curriculum standards, which are often coordinated with the topics on any state level tests. Thus, the Wisconsin teachers were probably following the topics from their district but chose to emphasize slavery and punishment for disobedience.

In teaching the ancient past, the concept of slavery should be taught, but it can be done with more sensitivity than these teachers showed. The teachers may not be racially biased, but they definitely need a closer look by the administration to see if they show a pattern of racial insensitivity.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
4. That wasn't even what that Code said!
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:23 AM
Feb 2021

"If a slave say to his master: "You are not my master," if they convict him his master shall cut off his ear" is what I can find from everything online, including well-sourced things.

Seriously, if you're going to teach 8th Graders about how "rule of law" may have started, and also how it went bad, at least make the grotesque things you tell them factual!

And really, if a question on this gruesome factoid was ever truly needed, this is the kinda thing to use a "multiple choice" answer and question format of "The Code of Hammurabi mandated the following punishment for a slave who denied their master", not a "thought exercise" type thing.

That's not the direction I want 8th grade thoughts to really be exercised, k?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. The teacher didn't think things through. Ill-conceived, but not pro-slavery or evil...
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 08:25 AM
Feb 2021

... based on the evidence I've seen.

jonstl08

(412 posts)
18. Agree
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 05:31 PM
Feb 2021

Maybe a little to young for these students but it is history and unless you study history you are bound to repeat it.

Roy Rolling

(6,915 posts)
8. Micro Management Style
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 08:28 AM
Feb 2021

Grandstanding punishments are fact-free escapes for administrators.

The question is, “is she a racist?.”

Otherwise, whoever hired her had no problem with a racist teaching 8th graders, as long as they don’t squeal to their parents.

Poor management allows political child abuse at a grand scale. School kids are the last to know they’re being brainwashed with propaganda by a teacher.

djacq

(1,633 posts)
9. Perspective from an African American;
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:01 AM
Feb 2021

I've attended classes and have read a great amount of African American History. From the Atlantic Slave Trade, to Sanctioned Slave Patrols, to Jim Crow Laws, and to celebratory public lynching. And yes, the U.S. had it's own Slave Codes since the colonies.

There's so much to learn, at age 54, I'm a continuing student. I and many others believe that the "true history", including America's greatest sin should be taught in school as a full curriculum and NOT as a mere chapter from a common U.S. History book.

[link:https://bluevirginia.us/2020/08/governor-northam-announces-launch-of-new-african-american-history-course|

The question, "How will 'you' punish this slave?", was inappropriately ill phrased. When it comes to looking at the immoral history of slavery, genocide, and the maltreatment of another human being, NEVER put the student in the role of the perpetrator. It might have been better to rephrase the question, "How will 'a Mesopotamian' punish this slave?"

Is it age appropriate to teach Mesopotamian History? I do recall being taught the history of ancient Rome, Greece, and Egypt at that age. They all had slaves. Yes, children at that age need to start learning about mankind's crimes against humanity, including the crimes of the U.S. The effort to end white supremacy and inequality begins with our children and our schools.

How can you begin to understand an individual's inequities without understanding that individual's history?

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
12. US history courses give short shrift to the whole topic of slavery.
Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:30 AM
Feb 2021

You may remember some years ago when a major textbook publisher released a high school history textbook that described slaves as people from African who came to the United States to work, as if they were just ordinary immigrants seeking a better life! After publicity and outrage from parents, they changed the wording but the fact that that wording was ever used in the first place is atrocious, and it says a lot about how southern states have influenced textbook content, especially states like Florida and Texas, to create a whitewashed history of our nation.

I just heard an NPR interview with the man who started an educational publishing venture that publishes flash cards with different topics of black history because he felt that black history was not being taught. In case you’re interested, the website is urbanintellectuals.com.

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