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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:01 PM Feb 2021

Exports from UK to EU down 68% since Brexit trade deal, say hauliers

Source: Reuters

BREXIT
FEBRUARY 7, 2021 8:24 AM UPDATED AN HOUR AGO

By Reuters Staff

2 MIN READ

LONDON (Reuters) - Exports from Britain to the European Union fell by 68% in January as trade was disrupted after the end of a transition period following Britain’s departure from the European Union, according to a trade body representing hauliers.

The government did not confirm the data and said disruption at the border had been minimal since Britain completed its journey out of the EU’s orbit at the of 2020 following an agreement on trading arrangements.

Since the start of the year, businesses and hauliers have had to adapt to new trading arrangements, including new systems for companies and officials in the British province of Northern Ireland.

Reporting by Costas Pitas, Editing by Timothy Heritage



Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-exports/exports-from-uk-to-eu-down-68-since-brexit-trade-deal-say-hauliers-idUSKBN2A70G3?il=0



Well Boris Johnson and his gang are either full of shit or they are well full of shit..........and this doesn't even speak about the fishing industry or the Northern Border of Ireland..........and then along comes coronavirus .......
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Exports from UK to EU down 68% since Brexit trade deal, say hauliers (Original Post) turbinetree Feb 2021 OP
Ooooh! empedocles Feb 2021 #1
This is what happens... orwell Feb 2021 #2
Exactly. Policy based on jingoism and political stuntsmanship. Midnight Writer Feb 2021 #12
That's an enormous decline. Mike 03 Feb 2021 #3
They said this would be good for UK to rely on its management and financial skill bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #4
Putin Turbineguy Feb 2021 #5
Why aren't they trading more with Russia StClone Feb 2021 #19
This will pour high octane on the fire of Scottish independence. roamer65 Feb 2021 #6
They should break away for their own good. Brexit was & is a death cult. nt SunSeeker Feb 2021 #16
I agree. roamer65 Feb 2021 #20
This Brits should take Nigel Farage and..... wolfie001 Feb 2021 #7
This was the intended result all along. Make way for the disaster capitalists. 0nirevets Feb 2021 #8
Wonder What % Is UK Being Hammered OhioTim Feb 2021 #9
This reminds me to cancel my Prime UK membership Thyla Feb 2021 #10
Stockpiling. mwooldri Feb 2021 #11
I would think the third lockdown, beginning on 5 (?) January had something to do with it. OnlinePoker Feb 2021 #13
True - but even in the worst month last year (April) EU imports overall, fell 16% sandensea Feb 2021 #15
No wonder the UK's GDP likely fell more than any other other developed country's in 2020: Around 10% sandensea Feb 2021 #14
I was thinking last night, Dan Feb 2021 #17
Northern Ireland is effectively treated like Ireland IronLionZion Feb 2021 #18
Unification talks soon and unification with RoI in 5 years. roamer65 Feb 2021 #21
I hope that happens peacefully IronLionZion Feb 2021 #23
It is time. And I think it will be mostly peaceful. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #27
i was speaking with my friend who lives in London stevesinpa Feb 2021 #22
Many, I understand, were hoodwinked into believing Brexit was "the solution to immigration" sandensea Feb 2021 #24
Same BigOleDummy Feb 2021 #26
They have an urban/rural and educated/uneducated divide there IronLionZion Feb 2021 #28
Disruption at the border has been minimal because exports have been minimal Xipe Totec Feb 2021 #25
I have a friend in the UK who is a specialized craftsman.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #29

orwell

(7,771 posts)
2. This is what happens...
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:15 PM
Feb 2021

...when you throw your lot in with Right Wing Nut Jobs.

Everyone suffers.

This is all so predictable...just like the Trumpaloon's "China Trade War".

It only benefitted China.

At the end of his "Trade War" we have the highest deficits of all time.

bucolic_frolic

(43,126 posts)
4. They said this would be good for UK to rely on its management and financial skill
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:21 PM
Feb 2021

Whoops, people still consume hard goods and services, and you wouldn't rely on them for technological skills. They don't even make Land Rovers there anymore.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
19. Why aren't they trading more with Russia
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 04:59 PM
Feb 2021

Russia doesn't have anything anyone wants except a few rare metals and corruption, oh and crude oil.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
11. Stockpiling.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 02:13 PM
Feb 2021

Probably counts for a good portion of the decline. Businesses were planning for the possibility of no deal, so there were more than normal imports/exports in December and November.

Still it wouldn't surprise me if UK exports to the EU were down overall.

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
13. I would think the third lockdown, beginning on 5 (?) January had something to do with it.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 03:02 PM
Feb 2021

Not much shipping happening when very few people are working.

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
15. True - but even in the worst month last year (April) EU imports overall, fell 16%
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 03:33 PM
Feb 2021

January's import cutback is thus unlikely to have been any more than that.

The rest of the 68% collapse is pure Brexit.

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
14. No wonder the UK's GDP likely fell more than any other other developed country's in 2020: Around 10%
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 03:26 PM
Feb 2021

Brexit couldn't have come at a worst time for them; hope the UKippers are happy.

Dan

(3,546 posts)
17. I was thinking last night,
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 03:57 PM
Feb 2021

That I wish someone from across the pond would share their view on the following:

1. What was the original premise of Brexit
2. Post Brexit vote - what were the expectations
3. Post Brexit vote - what has been the outcome
4. What does the future hold for the UK?
5. What does the future hold for Europe?
6. What are the feelings about where you are?

IronLionZion

(45,425 posts)
18. Northern Ireland is effectively treated like Ireland
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 04:59 PM
Feb 2021

it sounds like they still have the soft border with Ireland but have to deal with customs and so on with the rest of the UK.

So NI is still part of the single market, but there are issues with Europe doesn't want that as a way to smuggle things like vaccines to the UK.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
21. Unification talks soon and unification with RoI in 5 years.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 06:47 PM
Feb 2021

That’s my gut feeeling.

I think the EU will step forward to guarantee rights and peace keepers if needed. The allure of full access to a market of 300+ million people is just too good to pass up for Northern Ireland.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
27. It is time. And I think it will be mostly peaceful.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 09:19 AM
Feb 2021

My husband's family were protestants and owned a farm in Southen Ireland for decades. I believe a cousin still owns it.They were not hassled or targeted in anyway. My father dreamed of a united Ireland his entire life.

stevesinpa

(143 posts)
22. i was speaking with my friend who lives in London
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 06:54 PM
Feb 2021

just a couple days after the Brexit vote. i admit i didnt fully understand the entire situation, there was/is enough going on in the United States to occupy me. but i asked him what the vote was about generally, and he volunteered that he had voted for Brexit. as he explained why, he slowed down, and i could tell he was realizing he had made a big mistake.
it's sad, but most if not all of us do that same. when we discuss things with people that agree with us, or we just keep things in our mind, it may sound like a great idea. but once you say it out loud, sometimes it clicks that "hey, this is a mistake"

sandensea

(21,622 posts)
24. Many, I understand, were hoodwinked into believing Brexit was "the solution to immigration"
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 07:08 PM
Feb 2021

If that's what bothers them, they should have left the Commonwealth instead.

That's the source of most of Britain's immigrants - particularly the ones whom Tories and UKIppers consider "undesirable."

BigOleDummy

(2,270 posts)
26. Same
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 08:08 AM
Feb 2021

I belong to a fan site of a certain U.K. show and they have a chat room. Of all the members there (80% or better UK citizens) only one was a Brexiter and yes, he is also the only hard rightist on the board. A real Trump supporter and racist too, imagine that. Its just a bit hard for me to understand how that referendum passed tbh as he's the only UK citizen I converse with that does/did support it.

IronLionZion

(45,425 posts)
28. They have an urban/rural and educated/uneducated divide there
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 11:22 AM
Feb 2021

similar to the US and Trump supporters. So BREXIT appealed to a lot of uneducated or rural voters who were promised complete lies and were given false scapegoats to blame for their troubles.

Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
25. Disruption at the border has been minimal because exports have been minimal
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 07:31 PM
Feb 2021

So there's nothing to disrupt.

Happy Hoosier

(7,285 posts)
29. I have a friend in the UK who is a specialized craftsman....
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 01:39 PM
Feb 2021

He used to travel to the Continent to attend trade fairs all the time (before COVID) and ship freely to customers there. His orders from the Continent have decreased significantly since Brexit, and he will no longer be able to just pop on over to France to sell a few things. It will now require a fairly complex web of permits, customs, and tax documents, which will eat up a good chunk of his margin.

Brexit is a disaster for him.

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