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Omaha Steve

(99,580 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 12:24 AM Feb 2021

Chicago mayor touts deal with union to reopen schools

Source: AP

By SOPHIA TAREEN

CHICAGO (AP) — Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot touted a preliminary agreement with the teachers union over COVID-19 safety protocols on Sunday, potentially averting a strike in the nation’s third-largest school district.

Some students could return to classrooms as soon as Thursday, with the reopening of school phased-in by grade. Also, the city agreed to vaccinate 1,500 teachers and staff weekly at vaccination sites dedicated to Chicago Public Schools. The possible deal — which still requires approval from the Chicago Teachers Union —- also includes metrics that would trigger school closings when cases spike.

The union and district have been fighting for months over a plan to gradually reopen the roughly 340,000-student district, with talks breaking down in recent days on issues including vaccinations. Lightfoot and CPS officials had threatened to lock educators out of teaching systems multiple times, which the union said would lead to a strike for the second time in less than two years.

By Sunday, the first-term mayor who had been visibly agitated at recent news conferences, was smiling.



Mayor Lori Lightfoot, at podium, and Chicago Public Schools CEO Janice Jackson, background, announce Sunday, Feb. 7, 2021, at City Hall that a tentative agreement has been reached with the Chicago Teachers Union to reopen schools, in Chicago. The proposed deal is subject to an approval vote by CTU's House of Delegates. (Brian Cassella/Chicago Tribune via AP)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/chicago-coronavirus-pandemic-strikes-lori-lightfoot-protocols-efa7a3d1d74debe5d9b8d9bf2c52b6bc

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Chicago mayor touts deal with union to reopen schools (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2021 OP
Every classroom needs ventilation and nice, new air filters. BigmanPigman Feb 2021 #1
Providing N95s to 350,000 students frazzled Feb 2021 #3
I wish I could get a vaccine frazzled Feb 2021 #2
We are going through this here in Philly too BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #4
Exactly Mrsfiddlegirl Feb 2021 #5
Apparently by 1918 BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #7
An Architecture firm I worked at in Columbus OH had our team do assessments of old elementary Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2021 #9
The former high school in one of my posts here (Germantown High) BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #10
. Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2021 #11
Hell... I went to middle school here -- BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #12
Teachers Union muscles ahead of seniors in line for vaccine. Great. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2021 #6
If you consider "senior" as "over 65" (or recently, 67, meaning anyone qualifiying for full SS) BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #8

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
1. Every classroom needs ventilation and nice, new air filters.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 12:37 AM
Feb 2021

Also, N95s for each student and teacher as well as vaccinations and daily testing. Care about the students and teachers, not your bottom line. The NFL tested players daily and kept them socially distanced and masked when off the field.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. Providing N95s to 350,000 students
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 01:19 AM
Feb 2021

would bankrupt the district. These are for frontline medical personnel, not third graders. It’s total overkill. Even KN95s, which should not really be reused, would be prohibitive.

My 1st grade CPS granddaughter has an array of cloth masks and wears them well. They can be washed, and child-size surgical disposable masks are sufficient and probably best because they can be disposed daily.

Chicago is having a hybrid model where half of children attend 2 days a week (M/T) and half the other 2 days (Th/Fr). Wednesdays are remote virtual for all. This keeps class sizes small for distancing.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
2. I wish I could get a vaccine
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 01:05 AM
Feb 2021

I’ve been trying for weeks and weeks, still no appointments. I can wait, but I wish my husband, a cancer survivor still under surveillance for possible heart and other organ problems from the drugs, could get one.

I don’t begrudge anyone, but it kind of hurts to watch as us old folks continue to wait.

BumRushDaShow

(128,835 posts)
4. We are going through this here in Philly too
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 08:21 AM
Feb 2021

What many don't seem to understand is that many urban schools are held in buildings that were built over a century ago. I.e., these are not "modern" suburban schools. They are old piece of junk schools with caged windows, perennially leaking roofs, boilers that are held together with altered parts because the original companies that made them don't exist anymore, no potable drinking water, and no air-conditioning other than recent (literally just a few years ago) window units. Here is a typical "public" elementary school in this city (7 different examples from around the city out of about 150 elementary schools in the district... others in the city are charter, religious, or private) -















The classrooms are often no different from a small restaurant's space or smaller (and this is very different from supermarkets or other large retailers, which are facilities that at least have high ceilings).

They are attempting to supply classrooms with window fans at the moment here. I.e., here is their solution -



IMHO, there needs to be some kind of Defense Production Act contract to make air purifier units that use replaceable HEPA filters like this -

(does up to 450sqft - I have one of these in my living room/dining room & a Whirlpool one in my bedroom)


The Superintendent demanded that teachers of pre-K-2nd graders report today or be punished and that blew up spectacularly (a mediator is now involved so no "reporting" today). I do agree that the ones being hurt the most are the youngest because this is a period when they are literally "trained" for societal expectations of following orders and working with others. But they are just as vulnerable to the horrible conditions that have been the typical environment of far too many urban schools.

You want to talk about "infrastructure jobs"? It's odd that "new school buildings" never seem to be mentioned.

Mrsfiddlegirl

(16 posts)
5. Exactly
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 02:16 PM
Feb 2021

These look just like schools where I taught in Chicago. 32 students per class. We went months with heating systems not working, and in the spring the temperature reached 106 degrees in my classroom. Just vaccinate all the school staff. Such a simple answer. Teachers want to teach in person, but they should not become martyrs.

BumRushDaShow

(128,835 posts)
7. Apparently by 1918
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 03:25 PM
Feb 2021

every state had some type of "compulsory school attendance" law (that were eventually molded to fit within a SCOTUS ruling at the time). And after that, you see what amounted to a huge undertaking - the building of public schools in the largest cities and a large chunk of those buildings are still in use as schools.

The baby boom that brought about a move by many families to the suburbs resulted in another big school infrastructure boom, a number of which are being or have been replaced in those rim suburbs, while the city school buildings languish - only punctuated by a few "newer" buildings - or more commonly "additions" to the old buildings that popped up during the '50s/'60s to handle what was a similar large generation coming through from parents who remained in the cities.

That's what they did to Germantown High School here (now closed, which was an old building with a "newer wing" attached to it) -

(School construction with horses pulling the excavators)



(Germantown High completed - opened 1915)



(Recently, showing the expansion wing added in the late '50s)

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
9. An Architecture firm I worked at in Columbus OH had our team do assessments of old elementary
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 03:56 PM
Feb 2021

school buildings throughout the state. The state these were in (especially in Toledo, OH) was appalling. Basically they wanted reports to determine "do we tear down and rebuild? Is it salvageable, etc, etc". One building I walked in was all hardwood flooring/struct. Right away it was a "tear down". Took me all of 30 seconds to determine that.

BumRushDaShow

(128,835 posts)
10. The former high school in one of my posts here (Germantown High)
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 04:27 PM
Feb 2021

(where one of my aunts attended in the late '40s) - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142690869#post7 had been declared historic (am guessing the older original part), had been purchased after the school was closed, and was supposed to be developed for multiple purposes. There have been issues brought up by neighbors in the surrounding neighborhood, who have demanded input, so we'll see how that goes.

One of the fractional few that was replaced with a new building, where the old one was finally torn down, was Edison High School here (built in 1903) -





(They had to do something because. Fire. )



(The school was finally replaced in 1988, the old building was demolished a few years after the fire, but even the "new" building is itself now 32 years old)

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
11. .
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:13 PM
Feb 2021




Yup, that's exactly what we would expect to happen. And with all that wood and the young age of the children (we know how easy it is to direct little kids in an emergency). These are just tragedies waiting to happen. I remember a lot of 40s and 50s buildings during the assignment.

On a side note,; I was floored when I saw the classroom geography maps in most schools still showed Yugoslavia and the USSR. This was around 2001-02. But that's a topic for another time.....

BumRushDaShow

(128,835 posts)
12. Hell... I went to middle school here --
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:39 PM
Feb 2021


which is where my mother went to high school and had graduated in 1948 (when that building was the Philadelphia High School for Girls built in 1933) -



and the high school moved to a "new" replacement building opened in 1959, and I did end up going to high school in that "new" building, my very first "newer" building experience of my lower school education, and now that building is over 60 years old itself... -



(but the old middle school, which is also a high school itself as well, remains and still an active school)

Meanwhile one of my younger nieces has had 2 brand new schools opened in her suburban township during her almost 15 year lifetime.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
6. Teachers Union muscles ahead of seniors in line for vaccine. Great.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 03:08 PM
Feb 2021

Old farts just don't have a powerful union.

Maybe this re-prioritization is justified, though the timing of re-opening is suspect. The schools should open ten days after teachers have had their second shot. If they're not safe today, then they're equally not safe next week, vaccine or no vaccine.

BumRushDaShow

(128,835 posts)
8. If you consider "senior" as "over 65" (or recently, 67, meaning anyone qualifiying for full SS)
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 03:39 PM
Feb 2021

then there are quite a few "seniors" who are full time teachers. That is why they are complaining. I know here in Philly, there were periods where they hired very few "new" teachers for decades and were only bringing in temps as needed to supplement the staff. And eventually they ended up with a shortage because few wanted to even go into teaching, and older teachers were retiring. They have had a hard time recruiting them now, so you have the same crew still there (who are now "seniors" ). I know a few teachers who were "brand new and/or young" when I graduated 40+ years ago and they are still there.

I know that DU is "boomer heavy" (I am a tail-end one), but many sortof skirt around being considered a "senior", even in their '70s (let alone mid-late '60s), while still working full time, and pointing at others as if they aren't "seniors" too.

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