Dem lawmakers splinter over criteria for $1,400 stimulus payments as Biden relief bill advances

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Source: Washington Post

By Jeff Stein and Erica Werner
Feb. 8, 2021 at 1:37 p.m.

Democratic lawmakers are increasingly divided over the criteria for the next round of stimulus payments, splintering the caucus even as they aim to quickly pass President Biden’s $1.9 trillion relief package.

Democrats will include payments of $1,400 per person in the stimulus proposal, fulfilling a key pledge from Biden to bring $600 payments from December to $2,000 in total. But they disagree over who should be eligible to receive them, with mixed signals from the Biden administration complicating the situation.

Democrats have not decided the final threshold levels for the checks to include in their plan despite having little time before they are expected to release legislation, according to one aide granted anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

“There’s a discussion right now about what that threshold will look like,” White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Monday. “It’s still being negotiated at this point.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/02/08/democrats-stimulus-checks-covid-relief/?itid=hp-top-table-main-24

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Splinter? A tad dramatic, WaPo!

[lagomorph777]

1. Ooooohhhh, nooooooo!1! Splintering!!

Bullshit. We debate issues, and work out solutions.

[winstars]

2. Dems in disarray!!!! OMG, not again!!!

[3Hotdogs]

25. Yah, but the gas girl sold me the wrong damn tickets.

She probably gives the winning ones to her friends.

[better]

5. Simple, you shouldn't.

Essentials workers should be included, period, regardless of income.
Call it hazard pay.

Thanks to both you and your wife for you selfless service.

[Turin_C3PO]

11. I definitely think

you should get the stimulus!! Thank you and your wife for your service during this pandemic! Without people like you, we'd be in real trouble.

[3littlebeans]

19. You very much deserve it!

Thank you so very much to both you and your wife. You are both in my thoughts.

My parents will also be cut off if the income is under 100K. It should not be that way. My mother is a home care nurse, treating patients with COVID in their homes. My father works at Trader Joe's. Neither have gotten sick (yet) thank god.

People like you and your wife are the heroes of this past year.

[bdamomma]

22. Welcome to DU

there are many people like this who have been on the front and back lines. All need this money.

[tiredtoo]

30. Filing taxes separately

Have you checked out the advantages of filing jointly?

[electric_blue68]

31. "Simple" but not so easy if you live outside of a San Diego..

LA type climate.

Super hot in Phoenix, High humidity in Houston, much of the South (and the NYC Tri-State area in the summer 🤪 ) Tornado Alley, Winter - snow, ice, sleet, freezing rain, floodings, real hilly areas, unpaved areas, ETC!

I'm always nice to my postal people - letter carriers, and at the PO.

You forgot you also bring cards from family, and friends. Plus the magazines, and catalogues we really enjoy!

So thanks!
And good luck to your wife!

BTW - you might enjoy "The Postman" w Kevin Costner. It's pretty cool. If u haven't seen it.

[left-of-center2012]

6. I don't think 'splintering' is a correct description

"Slivering' perhaps ?

Synonyms for splintering:

slicing, slivering

Words Related to splintering"

chipping, chopping, dicing, hashing, julienning, mincing
sawing, scissoring
cleaving, riving, splitting
gashing, incising, ripping, slashing, slitting

[lettucebe]

8. They're acting more like we'd receive $1 million not a lousy $1400

Since when is receiving $1400 considered such a giant gift? It's hardly a rent payment for hundreds of thousands, if not millions. It is high time for those in government to realize that earning $75k a year, in 2021, is not exactly a lot of money. With houses, cars, credit cards, student loan payments and the high cost of everything, setting the limit at $75k is ridiculous. Considering lowering it is worse.

They had none of this concern over giving the wealthy a nice fat tax break, which they did not need.

[stopbush]

10. A person making $50k in WV would need to earn $157k adjusted for CoL

if they lived in San Francisco.

So, under these restrictions, the person in WV would qualify for the $1400, but a person earning $100k in SF would not, even though the person in SF is actually earning LESS than the person in WV, adjusted for CoL.

[Polybius]

12. It's a slippery slope for sure

The person in WV would live like a king with $50k and the check. I'm not sure of the solution though.

[3Hotdogs]

26. Then I'm moving to W.V. Two wins..... I get to live like a king and

I get to vote against Joe Mansion.

[CountAllVotes]

14. seems right to me

That is one of the reasons I left there and certainly could not afford to live there today.

My old friend's house is now a resold rental.
The rent on it was $12,000 a month up until just recently!
High-tech wins for now it seems.

[Marthe48]

13. Elected Dems should be assured

that many of us will do the right thing if we get stimulus checks that we don't actually need. Many of us will send money to people or places that can use it. Not the trickle-down economics of the rich, but people helping people, helping their communities, food banks, humane societies, sending some to help teachers buy supplies. I especially like giving to humane societies, because as people are pressured, their pets are going to the shelter.


I hope the Dems focus on helping essential workers, unemployed workers, small businesses, and eschew entities that already got giant tax breaks that took income away from cities and states.

[Traildogbob]

15. Just damn em

Nobody bitched about Kanye, Kushners and fucking Tom Brady or Joel Olsteen from getting million dollars checks. And now outrage over $50,000 to $75,000 stimulus checks of $1,400. Those are people that actually pay taxes that cover those checks. Let’s see how much the afore mentioned assholes paid in Taxes. Olsteen zero, cause you know, Jesus.

[The Mouth]

16. Anyone who thinks it shouldn't go to everyone shouldn't get it.

Damn them to hell.

We need one voice, we need action taken in a timeframe that is measured in hours. There is a minuscule percent of rich folks who will just stick it in the bank, sure, but we're letting the perfect be the enemy of the good and playing 'class warfare' against a LOT of people who voted for President Biden.

[bullwinkle428]

18. Any deviation from the original eligibility requirements (for the original $600)

is going to cause consternation, so I don't know why some of them are playing with fire like this.

[Lunabell]

20. It is a stimulus to the economy.

It isn't just a payout. We need this to help our economy stay afloat during this pandemic. What part of stimulus do these people not get?

[George II]

21. Right, they're not splintered. And as far as "increasingly divided", that's not true either....

It's just that more are getting involved in the discussions about it.

I hate the spin some "reporters" have to put on things.

[NurseJackie]

27. At first I thought this was that writer that's always gotta whine about something...

... but I was mistaken. Perhaps these two are headed for Politico as well: where careers go to die.

[George II]

33. Indeed, when I saw "splinter" in the headline (not the OP's, the reporters') I thought "Holly Crap..

....another Politico article bashing Democrats".

Imagine my surprise when I saw it was from the Washington Post. At least they know there's a warm desk at that online publication if those two are shit canned.

[CaptainTruth]

23. I still say: Keep the thresholds the same for this package.

Look at making changes in future bills.

[jalan48]

24. Why is it when we talk about tax cuts we never say the level of the cuts should be based on what

part of the country the millionaires and billionaires live in?

[mountain grammy]

28. I have a splinter in my thumb..

WAPO headline should read: Pass the Fucking Stimulis Already!

[Historic NY]

29. Do they actually know this is what happens

The size of the check will decrease based on income for individuals who earned more than $75,000 based on their federal tax return for 2019 (or their 2018 return if they have not filed yet). The payment for individuals will shrink by $5 for every $100 earned over $75,000. For couples who filed jointly, the reduction will start once they earn more than $150,000; for heads of household, at $112,500.


https://www.aarp.org/politics-society/advocacy/info-2020/coronavirus-stimulus-checks.html

[jorgevlorgan]

32. Take away all limits, and see if this is a game of chicken they are worth trying to win.

[Omaha Steve]

34. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING

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