Fully vaccinated people can skip Covid quarantines, CDC says

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: CNN

People who have been fully vaccinated against coronavirus -- right now that means with two doses of either the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna vaccine -- can skip quarantine if they are exposed to someone infected with the virus, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday.

That doesn't mean they should stop taking precautions, the CDC noted in updated guidance. It's just not necessary for them to quarantine.

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"Vaccinated persons with an exposure to someone with suspected or confirmed COVID-19 are not required to quarantine if they meet all of the following criteria," the CDC added.

The criteria: They must be fully vaccinated -- having had both shots with at least two weeks having passed since the second shot. That's because it takes two weeks to build full immunity after the second dose of vaccine.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fully-vaccinated-people-can-skip-covid-quarantines-cdc-says/ar-BB1dA6Ve?li=BBnb7Kz

[dalton99a]

1. Kick

[BigmanPigman]

2. That's useful info.

Thanks!

[HUAJIAO]

3. Sorry, That is utterly stupid.

The vaccine, either one, does not stop you from contracting covid-19 OR passing it on to someone else.

Unless everything I have read about the two vaccines is wrong.

[keopeli]

4. Wow. The CDC has NOT regained my trust, and this doesn't help.

Vaccinated people may still carry and transmit the disease, right? Isn't that what everyone has said to justify continuing to wear masks after being vaccinated?

So, if I'm vaccinated and exposed to someone with covid, I don't need to quarantine for even a day, despite the fact I could be carrying and transmitting the disease.

[FarPoint]

13. I have been following Fauci on this since late December...

It makes sense...

[RobinA]

5. Well, Call Me Slow!

I’ve been fully vaccinated for weeks, and it never would have occurred to me to quarantine until they told me I didn’t have to.

[BlueWavePsych]

6. Canada disagrees.

At least in British Columbia (at this writing)

12. Once I’m vaccinated, do I still have to worry about public health measures like wearing a mask and social distancing?

?Everyone who receives the vaccine will still need to follow public health guidance and follow orders from the Provincial Health Officer. After you get a vaccine, it will still be extremely important to continue to practice all the preventive measures that have been recommended, including washing your hands, maintaining a safe physical distance, wearing a mask, and staying home when sick. There are several reasons this is important:

It takes about 2 weeks for your body to gain protection from the COVID-19 vaccine. This means that if you contracted COVID-19 before getting the vaccine, or within the 2 week period following the vaccine, you may still get sick from COVID-19. So if you experience symptoms of COVID-19 after you’ve been vaccinated, use the BC self-assessment tool to determine if you need to be tested.

The vaccine won’t stop everyone from getting COVID-19. For those who do get the virus, it is less likely you will experience severe illness.

The vaccine is 95% effective, but you could be in the 5% that don’t have immunity. You can still spread COVID-19 if you touch things and don’t wash your hands or interact with people in close proximity.

As things change, public health measures will be updated and adjusted. It is important to keep following public health recommendations.

https://immunizebc.ca/covid-19-vaccine-frequently-asked-questions#Once%20I%E2%80%99m%20vaccinated,%20do%20I%20still%20have%20to%20worry%20about%20public%20health%20measures%20like%20wearing%20a%20mask%20and%20social%20distancing?

[NYC Liberal]

7. This is about quarantining. The CDC still says you need to maintain the precautions

like wearing a mask and distancing.

[BlueWavePsych]

9. WHO disagrees. See article below.

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-says-no-evidence-coronavirus-vaccine-prevent-transmissions-2020-12

Also, almost all countries still require mandatory quarantine even if vaccinated. I think Iceland is trying to change this with vaccination 'passports'.

Think about a vaccinated person infected with South African variant but is asymptomatic, running amuck in your community.

[BlueWavePsych]

8. WHO urges vaccinated travelers to keep taking coronavirus precautions

World Health Organization chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan told a virtual briefing Monday people who've been vaccinated for COVID-19 "need to take the same precautions" as those who haven't "till there's a certain level of herd immunity."

Swaminathan was asked whether international travel without quarantine would be possible after mass coronavirus vaccinations. "I don't believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it's going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on," she said.

https://www.axios.com/who-covid-19-vaccines-travel-quarantine-429bfd14-0439-4a08-aecd-fc89dc70c568.html

Top WHO scientist says vaccinated travelers should still quarantine, citing lack of evidence that COVID-19 vaccines prevent transmission

The World Health Organization is urging even people who have received a coronavirus vaccine to quarantine when they travel because there is not yet evidence that vaccines prevent people from transmitting the virus.

WHO's chief scientist, Dr. Soumya Swaminathan, noted on Monday that the agency had not established whether the COVID-19 vaccines being administered across the US and in Europe prevented people from getting the virus and passing it to others.

"I think until we know more, we need to assume that people who have been vaccinated also need to take the same precautions until there is a certain level of herd immunity that's been built in the population," she said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-says-no-evidence-coronavirus-vaccine-prevent-transmissions-2020-12

[roamer65]

10. Bad CDC guidance.

You can still harbor a subclinical infection. After my second shot, I won’t be changing protocol one bit.

[HUAJIAO]

15. Boy, tell me about it.

Any idiot can figure this out. Who(LOL) needs the CDC.
They need to CLEARLY STATE that even if you are vaccinated,.. etc.. like you said.. they can still contract Covid and spread it even if asymptomatic...

I've had it with the CDC.. I do my own research.... lots of it..

[Aerator]

11. I Get my second shot in 2 weeks and can't wait

I had no problems with my first shot and I will be hoping for the same results for my 2nd . Unfortunately the Covid has caused more deaths in Ohio than has been previously reported as the Governor announced today that they are adding 4000 more deaths to the total after a error was found during a training session on reporting deaths . This is a 35 % increase in the deaths reported. They will be adding the additional deaths stretched out over several days . Almost all the unreported deaths occurred in late November and December.

[FarPoint]

12. I am good with this...

I had my second Moderna vaccine on 1/21/21...So, I'm good.... ...

I work daily as an Infusion RN...so, always using PPE Protocols.

[HUAJIAO]

16. BUT, you can still contract Covid and spread it... even if you don't get sick....

This guidance, in my view, is nonsense and very dangerous...

[liskddksil]

20. This is being studied but there is early indications that the vaccines do reduce transmission

Link to tweet

[roamer65]

26. Yes. Smaller infection, less transmission window.

[roamer65]

27. Not surprised.

The first mRNA vaccine dose makes your body learn how to produce the specific antibody. The second tells the immune system to flood your system with it.

An actual SARS-CoV-2 after the first shot may mimic the second shot.

[HUAJIAO]

30. That is encouraging to hear.

But... they/it says it MAY be less likely to transmit.

I would suggest until it is WILL lower the spread by so and so amount, that the quarantine regulation stay in place for those who have been exposed....

[Ms. Toad]

14. So - by the time I get fully vaccinated,

the 1a group will be back to being treated as if the vaccination never happened. (Despite being right around the corner from 65, and having two forms of cancer and diabetes - which puts me in the national group 1b, it will be at least a month and a half before I am fully vaccinated . . . assuming I get my first shot in the first week I am eligible. Ohio is prioritizing primary and secondary education over people who are truly at risk if they become ill. My parents will, by that time, be 3 months past teh effective date of their vaccine.)

But the CDC says it's not known how long protection lasts, so people who had their last shot three months ago or more should still quarantine if they are exposed.

Argh. It's gonna be a long second year of the COVID pandemic.

(FWIW - even with this sad reality, I don't believe the CDC is being cautious enough. We have virtually no data as to whether being vaccinated prevents you from catching COVID 19 - and transmitting it others - or merely prevents you from getting really, really sick.)

[roamer65]

17. Moderna is already planning a booster shot.

I think it will be an annual shot to catch the latest variants and kick your immune system in the knickers.

The Moderna vaccine will last well longer than 3 months on average. It even gets the South African variant, not as well but enough to suppress it.

[Ms. Toad]

22. The CDC is talking about a 3-month effectiveness.

That's the length of their "you don't have to quarantine rule."

[roamer65]

23. I would disregard it anyway.

I would quarantine for about 7 days. 10 would be overkill.

[liskddksil]

24. That will likely be lengthened in the next few months as more research gets done on this issue. nt

[roamer65]

25. I agree.

The first mRNA shot makes ur body learn how to produce the specific antibodies for SARS-CoV-2. The second shot stimulates the production of those antibodies. Your antibody titer may decrease over a year, but the body should retain the ability of how to produce them much longer.

My body should now know how to do it after the 1st shot.

[HUAJIAO]

18. Your last paragraph FWIW

Absolutely !!!!!!!!

Terrible decision.. just terrible...

Why is it that I am way ahead of the CDC in almost everything they announce DUH !!!
I mean it just takes a little research.. DUH !!!

[Ms. Toad]

21. You and me both! n/t

[liskddksil]

28. We are beginning to find indications that vaccines reduce transmission. See my post #19 nt

[Ms. Toad]

29. Only in a round-about way.

Although the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission from vaccinated persons to others is still uncertain, vaccination has been demonstrated to prevent symptomatic COVID-19; symptomatic and pre-symptomatic transmission is thought to have a greater role in transmission than purely asymptomatic transmission.

So what they are saying is that the two biggest transmission risks are people who are (1) symptomatic and (2) pre-symptomatic.

Vaccination significantly reduces the chance that if you acquire COVID 19 it will be symptomatic. So if you never become symptomatic, you are less likely to transmit it to others.

That's a BIG assumption (for which I've seen no evidence) - that transmission by people who acquire COVID post-vaccination will work identically to transmission by the unvaccinated population. Just because unvaccinated people are most likely to transmit when they are syptomatic or pre-symptomatic does not mean that COVID will work the same way if the vaccination is controlling the syptoms rather than infection.

I'm certainly hoping that is true - but the report makes no such claim and does not reference any data to support this hypothesis.

[liskddksil]

19. This Twitter thread has a good rundown from a scientist

Link to tweet

[intrepidity]

31. Practically speaking, if you want to encourage vaccination, there must be tangible perks

Just being pragmatic here, our best shot is with mass vaccination, and one way to promote that, is if people gain some freedom that they otherwise wouldn't have.

Besides the *obvious* one, of being (mostly) protected from the disease.

But for those who don't believe they'd get sick (because they believe it's a hoax), this is one way to get their sorry asses vaccinated for OUR benefit.

[GusBob]

32. After 8 weeks of quarantined this past year I say Hell Yes

8 weeks half of them without pay
14 weeks half schedule, so half pay

The 2 weeks of quarantine were a complete waste of time and ruined my finances

[Hortensis]

33. WONDERFUL news!