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demmiblue

(36,816 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:02 PM Feb 2021

Trump Was Sicker Than Acknowledged With Covid-19

Source: NYT

WASHINGTON — President Donald J. Trump was sicker with Covid-19 in October than publicly acknowledged at the time, with extremely depressed blood oxygen levels at one point and a lung problem associated with pneumonia caused by the coronavirus, according to four people familiar with his condition.

His prognosis became so worrisome before he was taken to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center that officials believed he would need to be put on a ventilator, two of the people familiar with his condition said.

The people familiar with Mr. Trump’s health said he was found to have lung infiltrates, which occur when the lungs are inflamed and contain substances such as fluid or bacteria. Their presence, especially when a patient is exhibiting other symptoms, can be a sign of an acute case of the disease. They can be easily spotted on an X-ray or scan, when parts of the lungs appear opaque, or white.

Mr. Trump’s blood oxygen level alone was cause for extreme concern, dipping into the 80s, according to the people familiar with his evaluation. The disease is considered severe when the blood oxygen level falls to the low 90s.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/11/us/politics/trump-coronavirus.html

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Trump Was Sicker Than Acknowledged With Covid-19 (Original Post) demmiblue Feb 2021 OP
Well that's depressing Blue Owl Feb 2021 #1
Croak, croak, CROAK! Damn, that is too bad. machoneman Feb 2021 #28
Really? We'd be spared Trump Impeachment II, but Pence would be sitting in oasis Feb 2021 #75
I really had hopes for it LymphocyteLover Feb 2021 #53
We all know what you meant. Sugar Smack Feb 2021 #55
So it wasn't that bad Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2021 #63
In other words, we were right Maeve Feb 2021 #2
No surprise there. bearsfootball516 Feb 2021 #3
Seriously. Gasping for air on the balcony... SMC22307 Feb 2021 #10
He probably should have died VA_Jill Feb 2021 #4
He probably would have if it wasn't for the medical care he recieved. bearsfootball516 Feb 2021 #9
Right. He received the Regeneron antibodies cocktail and two other things too Mike 03 Feb 2021 #16
What no Clorox? plimsoll Feb 2021 #65
He was probably screaming for hydroxychloquine jmowreader Feb 2021 #66
Hey, they're prescribing HCQ in my area. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #68
Satan was afraid. Probably true. He doesn't drink or smoke so he's probably going to be around Evolve Dammit Feb 2021 #30
One of these days VA_Jill Feb 2021 #36
Yeah. There's a fresh eager new batch that are just as dangerous and smarter. A Biden DOJ is hopeful Evolve Dammit Feb 2021 #40
Like r senators, Satan can't handle his creation either Marthe48 Feb 2021 #47
Covid could have saved our nation an insurrection. dem4decades Feb 2021 #5
+++ still_one Feb 2021 #56
All that saved him was our tax dollars Ferrets are Cool Feb 2021 #6
"People familiar with" ... like who? Zoonart Feb 2021 #7
This! Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #14
All this stuff was leaked at the time, but I guess it's news to some soothsayer Feb 2021 #8
I don't think the ventilator part was known. bearsfootball516 Feb 2021 #11
Nice to have things confirmed soothsayer Feb 2021 #12
That must have been one hell of a cocktail if he was in that bad a shape. Frustratedlady Feb 2021 #13
Yes, ma'am. hamsterjill Feb 2021 #50
Mark Meadows said as much (off the record, but then was outed) Mike 03 Feb 2021 #15
My daughter's father is very ill- induced coma intubated, getting all the drugs available and he Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #17
He's one lucky SOB C_U_L8R Feb 2021 #18
More Proof That There Is No God sfstaxprep Feb 2021 #19
Heh, I was thinking "More proof that he's the Antichrist" nt intrepidity Feb 2021 #32
Would serve him and the others right if ArizonaLib Feb 2021 #70
so... does this make the Walter Reed Motorcade musette_sf Feb 2021 #20
Is there proof? Grasswire2 Feb 2021 #21
If it was a stunt, it went pretty terribly. bearsfootball516 Feb 2021 #24
I agree with you RicROC Feb 2021 #34
And yet, after personally suffering from a potentially deadly pathogen, Trump still allowed no_hypocrisy Feb 2021 #22
fuck trump NRaleighLiberal Feb 2021 #23
Not Sick Enough, Sadly Nocturnowl Feb 2021 #25
It was obvious he was sick when he had his parade to show he wasn't sick. twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #26
Well, damn Hekate Feb 2021 #27
Brian Sicknick would still be alive if this asshole had just died back in October. BlueStater Feb 2021 #29
So close! NurseJackie Feb 2021 #31
Right? Me. Feb 2021 #39
Who cares? intrepidity Feb 2021 #33
So close, dammit.... rickyhall Feb 2021 #35
THis... Me. Feb 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Feb 2021 #37
I'm sorry. I call BS on this. If he was that damned sick, to the point of possibly a vent, he niyad Feb 2021 #41
yes, something is very fishy. very very fishy. Time will tell us no doubt. riversedge Feb 2021 #44
It sounds like a stupid "strong like bear" narrative about Putin. Politicub Feb 2021 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Feb 2021 #42
trump had to be very sick to go to Walter Reed Gothmog Feb 2021 #43
Heaven can wait CountAllVotes Feb 2021 #45
Damn. A Wasted Opportunity COL Mustard Feb 2021 #46
He is so fucking evil the Covid virus must have died the second yuiyoshida Feb 2021 #48
Why does that not surprise me, everything he did was packed full of lies Baclava Feb 2021 #49
And then he went and rode around in an SUV full of guards. Initech Feb 2021 #51
Timing is everything... Talitha Feb 2021 #52
Somebody needs to convince him to destroy his portait Rural_Progressive Feb 2021 #54
Can I observe that a lot of folks were convinced he was faking? brooklynite Feb 2021 #57
I'm going to paraphrase Matt Gaetz (and who thought I would EVER do that) and say... bullwinkle428 Feb 2021 #58
. mahina Feb 2021 #59
not sick enough. barbtries Feb 2021 #60
I doubt anyone suggested using the 25th Amendment. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2021 #61
So the MFer lied about that too. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2021 #62
Everyone HERE already knew that & said it at the time. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #67
Let's hope that no-mask wearing SOB doesn't survive the second time he catches it. Crowman2009 Feb 2021 #69
But he could even do the world a solid and just get worse, could he? BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #71
Karma is an asshole. dchill Feb 2021 #72
He was sicker than acknowledged throughout his whole 4-year term!!! n/t thenelm1 Feb 2021 #73
too bad the MF cntrfthrs Feb 2021 #74
Having worked in the ICU for many years, I KNEW when I saw him there on the balcony breathing Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #76
Why was this leaked now? mysteryowl Feb 2021 #77
I believe he knew he had it during that First Debate and hoped to give it to Biden JI7 Feb 2021 #78
He was sick alright--even before he walked into our White House. He's a VERY sick person. C Moon Feb 2021 #79

oasis

(49,321 posts)
75. Really? We'd be spared Trump Impeachment II, but Pence would be sitting in
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:08 AM
Feb 2021

the Oval Office right now.

LymphocyteLover

(5,636 posts)
53. I really had hopes for it
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:22 PM
Feb 2021

an old out of shape guy.... but I guess he has the best medical care available...

bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
3. No surprise there.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:04 PM
Feb 2021

They used an experimental drug cocktail on him and when he was back on the balcony Sunday night, he was clearly in pain.

VA_Jill

(9,940 posts)
4. He probably should have died
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:04 PM
Feb 2021

but as the joke goes, God didn't want him and Satan was afraid he'd take over.

I'm actually surprised his O2 sats aren't in the low 90s most of the time, as um, obese and inactive as he usually is. And depending on how far down in the 80s he went, well....I've had patients go to 80 and be okay with a little boost in the o2 or maybe some CPAP. If he was going below that, it might have been different.

bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
9. He probably would have if it wasn't for the medical care he recieved.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:08 PM
Feb 2021

He was lucky to have access to the best medical care in the world and treatments that are only available to the extremely rich. If he had been an average Joe, he very well may not have made it.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
66. He was probably screaming for hydroxychloquine
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 10:16 PM
Feb 2021

So...what do you do? On that list is aspirin...they probably told him it was HCQ to shut him up.

Evolve Dammit

(16,694 posts)
30. Satan was afraid. Probably true. He doesn't drink or smoke so he's probably going to be around
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:45 PM
Feb 2021

another decade. Hope we are. I'm really worried what his cult will do with his coded language after this trial. Michael Cohen nailed that. "He speaks in code..." They have a lot of AR's and the next time may be a lot more violent. Wish and hope otherwise.

VA_Jill

(9,940 posts)
36. One of these days
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:14 PM
Feb 2021

He's going to choke on a hamberder. Or a chicken nugget. I don't want to even think about what his arteries look like. He can't beat the reaper forever. And as for the cult, they're now being taken seriously as domestic terrorists, so there's hope there. Also we'll have new US attorneys, so there's that. Notice we haven't heard much out of Donny lately? I'm hoping he'll be too busy fighting assorted legal battles from here on out. I'm far more worried about Josh Hawley aka #KidHitler and his type.

Evolve Dammit

(16,694 posts)
40. Yeah. There's a fresh eager new batch that are just as dangerous and smarter. A Biden DOJ is hopeful
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:40 PM
Feb 2021

Zoonart

(11,829 posts)
7. "People familiar with" ... like who?
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:06 PM
Feb 2021

Smells like bullshit to me. Playing for sympathy with Republicans.

bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
11. I don't think the ventilator part was known.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:10 PM
Feb 2021

That speaks to how grave it actually looked at one point. They'll only hook you up to the ventilator if you're in REALLY bad shape.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
13. That must have been one hell of a cocktail if he was in that bad a shape.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:14 PM
Feb 2021

Too bad the 470,000+ didn't have a chance for it. Even if it wasn't approved yet, if they were going to die anyway, at least they would have had a chance...if he's still walkin' around.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
50. Yes, ma'am.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 07:19 PM
Feb 2021

This report doesn’t pass the smell test to me. There’s footage of him walking out to the helicopter when he was being taken to Walter Reed. He didn’t look great, but he didn’t look close to death, did he?

You’re absolutely right in that if he was THAT sick, the drugs he was given were miraculous and should be made available to everyone because they obviously worked.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
15. Mark Meadows said as much (off the record, but then was outed)
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:16 PM
Feb 2021

and a lot of people here suspected it too.

But it's always good to have verification.

Thekaspervote

(32,691 posts)
17. My daughter's father is very ill- induced coma intubated, getting all the drugs available and he
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:18 PM
Feb 2021

Probably isn’t going to make it.

Not buying that story

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
19. More Proof That There Is No God
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:19 PM
Feb 2021

Or at the very least, God does not care much about what goes on down here.

musette_sf

(10,198 posts)
20. so... does this make the Walter Reed Motorcade
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:20 PM
Feb 2021

even more of an assault on the innocent people who had to execute this dangerous stunt and accompany Rump?

bearsfootball516

(6,373 posts)
24. If it was a stunt, it went pretty terribly.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:28 PM
Feb 2021

All it did was make him look weak, and like a massive hypocrite.

RicROC

(1,203 posts)
34. I agree with you
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:05 PM
Feb 2021

I suspected that T. never did have covid because within a few days, he not only was on the campaign trail, he gave 3-4 speeches per day. Doesn't sound like a person with lung problems. Maybe he just had a bad flu, but I still doubt he had covid.

Many people complain that they have lingering effects for months after infection.

no_hypocrisy

(46,019 posts)
22. And yet, after personally suffering from a potentially deadly pathogen, Trump still allowed
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:23 PM
Feb 2021

the rest of the country to be decimated by Covid-19.

He didn't allow Anthony Fauci to do his job.

He interfered with the development of a vaccine.

He didn't allow the vaccine to be properly manufactured, to have enough supply for every state, for every person in these United States.

Talk about a hardened heart.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

niyad

(113,038 posts)
41. I'm sorry. I call BS on this. If he was that damned sick, to the point of possibly a vent, he
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:43 PM
Feb 2021

would not have been taking joy rides and doing balcony shows a few days later. This is either a syMpathy ploy, or another part of his self-promoting "superman" invincible image. "On the third day, he arose again,"

And if that cocktail is so damned effective, then it damned well better be available to EVERYONE!

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Gothmog

(144,890 posts)
43. trump had to be very sick to go to Walter Reed
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:44 PM
Feb 2021

The White House has a good medical facility that can handle most issues

CountAllVotes

(20,865 posts)
45. Heaven can wait
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:49 PM
Feb 2021

Isn't that the truth?

Don the Con will be waiting for a very long for heaven one must suspect!



Initech

(100,029 posts)
51. And then he went and rode around in an SUV full of guards.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:12 PM
Feb 2021

How many people did he infect with that little stunt?

Talitha

(6,558 posts)
52. Timing is everything...
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:16 PM
Feb 2021

This story comes out the day before his lawyers start their dog and pony show at the trial. Does anyone else smell a red herring?

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
54. Somebody needs to convince him to destroy his portait
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:39 PM
Feb 2021

that's hanging in the back room at Mar a loogie.

Looks like the only way we're going to get rid of him I'm afraid.

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
58. I'm going to paraphrase Matt Gaetz (and who thought I would EVER do that) and say...
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:49 PM
Feb 2021

"After reading that obituary, I think I would have needed a cigarette!"

61. I doubt anyone suggested using the 25th Amendment.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 09:15 PM
Feb 2021

Hell, I bet they wouldn't do it even if Fat Donnie had to be put on a ventilator. People were so terrified of this monster that they lived in his alternate reality, and invented reasons to lie about their own actions.

And yet, this was exactly the set of circumstances envisioned by the drafters of the amendment when they wrote that the V.P. would assume the position of president during the president's "inability to discharge the powers and duties of the [the presidency]."

We might as well not have had a V.P. There was no way T**** would let go of the reins of power. Hell, he's still trying to hold on to them. People can't refer to him as "former President Trump." On the first day of the impeachment trial his lawyer's first reference to his client was to "the 45th president" and not "former President Trump."

Vivienne235729

(3,376 posts)
76. Having worked in the ICU for many years, I KNEW when I saw him there on the balcony breathing
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:12 AM
Feb 2021

He was on the fast track to buying himself an intubation. The only reason I figured that he didn’t was bc he was POTUS and he got treatment that was not available to most people.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
78. I believe he knew he had it during that First Debate and hoped to give it to Biden
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:55 AM
Feb 2021

At that time he probably had not develped symptoms or they were nothing serious . He thought he could get away without anyone knowing but the reason we found out was because it became more serious and they had to take him to the hospital .

REmember that he gave to Chris Christie during debate prep .

C Moon

(12,208 posts)
79. He was sick alright--even before he walked into our White House. He's a VERY sick person.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 03:27 AM
Feb 2021

So are all the god damned MAGAs.

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