Woman survives 100-plus-car pileup, crawls out back window on I-35 in Fort Worth
Source: KHOU 11
Alicia Stone says she's still processing what happened Thursday morning; at least six people were killed in the rush-hour crash.
Author: Lauren Zakalik
FORT WORTH, Texas No one ever leaves their home in the morning to go to work thinking they'll be part of a massive and tragic wreck; Alicia Stone certainly didn't.
"I was headed into work, and we had just talked in the morning that it would be a little bit safer maybe to try the toll road," said Stone.
We know now what ended up happening on that Interstate 35 southbound toll road, just north of downtown Fort Worth Thursday morning: a pileup of at least 133 vehicles, leaving at least six people dead, on a morning colder and slicker than most of us can remember.
"I was hitting my brakes, they wouldn't work," Stone said. "After that, I got hit probably four or five times from behind, just from people piling up, from the hits. So, I stayed in my car until there were no more hits."
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ProfessorGAC
(65,326 posts)Wow, what a mess. And 6 dead.
Nothing worse than driving on smooth ice. Dense fog is a close second, I suppose.
There was a phone video showing a FedEx semi plowing into the back of another truck. Clearly the driver was going to fast for icy roads.
6 dead. What a shame.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)That owns the toll road. Apparently they did not pre-treat the road that day. They did it on Wednesday, but not on Thursday. They were "checking" the surface.
AllaN01Bear
(18,661 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,775 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,027 posts)where all the truck traffic travels. It was an overpass, so "bridge pavement freezes before roadway" applies.
The trucks especially should have be going much slower. The Fed Ex tractor trailer, and then the next one (in the horrible videos) where clearly going WAY too fast for conditions.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)yellowdogintexas
(22,288 posts)and you can see the difference in the overhead views.
Another local DUer posted yesterday about the weather. If the weather were warm, it would have been "scattered showers" or "isolated storms" - the kind that pour down on one spot and miss everything surrounding it. The kind where it is pouring down on one side of the street but the other side is dry. This is not unusual around here. Because it was in the 20s, it came down as sleet and freezing rain, with ice under the storms and dry pavement all around. One could be scooting along on dry pavement, hit a big patch of ice unexpectedly and lose control of the vehicle. Weather would have been reporting on highway conditions,without knowing locations of these more dangerous locations. I think this may partially account for the speed of the vehicles
I expect the FWPD investigation will find this may have contributed.
From my point of view I know this:
The south bound lanes are downhill
If accidents occured on the northbound side, to my knowledge they have not been reported
The tollway was treated by the management company not the state
The actual Interstate was treated by TXDOT
The precipitation was sporadic and heavy in spots while dry in others. (we had nothing here)
Everything was complicated by the darkness and early morning rush hour.
It has been at least 5 years since our area has had winter weather; our winters have been unseasonably warm.
My brother in law and his wife are both FWPD officers; he was one of the first to arrive on the scene while she ended up in traffic control, closing lanes and redirecting traffic
Their input will be very interesting indeed.
dalton99a
(81,667 posts)PJMcK
(22,065 posts)FakeNoose
(32,853 posts)Gross negligence! If the private contractor cannot maintain the highway then the road must be closed for dangerous conditions. Let people be late for work, let them complain, I don't care. The people of Texas deserve better.
I live in Pennsylvania, where we have lots of snow, lots of roads, and lots of hills. Our PA drivers have learned how to drive in icy conditions. Nobody hits the highway and jams on the gas. Many of us stay home until it's safe, the ones who must go to work drive slowly and carefully.
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)The roads being a narrow two lane channel that locks cars inside. Curious if that increased the scale since it limited the number avoidance maneuvers, or if it contained the damage by preventing some of those trucks from taking out more cars. Would have the damage been as severe if many of those cars didn't meet a hard stop?
onecent
(6,096 posts)usaf-vet
(6,232 posts)... bridge (elevated ) roads. We know the "overpasses" require special cautions. Unfortunately for southern states that is not common knowledge.
I'll bet ["I was hitting my brakes, they wouldn't work,"] her brakes were working but she was "standing" on them. Snow and ice country drivers know to TAP your brake don't stomp on them.
But in her defense chain reaction crashes are a different beast. She could have stopped with proper braking only to be repeatedly hit from behind. Glad she survived.
Jimbo S
(2,960 posts)it's best to hold down and not tap.
usaf-vet
(6,232 posts)BUT stay in the car until all crashing STOPS.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)" I stayed in my car until there were no more hits"
smartest move, never leave your cage of steel and become a crash dummy on the open road
yellowdogintexas
(22,288 posts)and then hit from behind by other cars doing the same thing.
TXDOT would have lit up the big digital warning boards but I can't remember where they are up in that part of the city
LeftInTX
(25,707 posts)Ice is our most common winter precip...
We get ice storms, which I rarely saw up north......
I think it has to do with our climate, which has a warm atmosphere, (rain, but most commonly drizzle) but for some reason the surface is below freezing and we get ice.
Up north, ice occurred in patches. (Mostly commonly at stop signs...probably from the thaw/freeze) Down here, it's everywhere.
Snow OTOH is not ice.
usaf-vet
(6,232 posts).... after several hours of on-base and off-base accidents happening the base commander to his credit issued an immediate base-wide order that no military vehicles or private vehicles could be driven on base unless the driver had a driver's license from northern states where snow and ice storms were common.
I can't give you any data on before and after the order's accident rates. But it was a storm with less than 2" sticking on the ground.
Us "damn Yankees" got a laugh for the day.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)And that phenomenon is more common in the upper south. Look at the storm this week and the forecast for next. Ice across the mid south and lower Ohio valley and snow in the north.
On black ice just dont drive. Sounds like these folks were driving on dry pavement one moment and then hit ice.
Tragic.
LeftInTX
(25,707 posts)Up north above freezing: It snows
Down south below freezing: Freezing rain
In the south, a warm atmosphere is what causes freezing rain, drizzle, and frog (freezing fog)
I'm from Wisconsin and never experienced freezing rain until I came to Texas.
I missed the great Wisconsin ice storm of March 1976, because I lived too far north.
LeftInTX
(25,707 posts)"2 inches sticking to the ground", sounds more like snow to me.
Ice storms are more dangerous than 2 inches of snow...
Sure, southerners will have trouble driving in 2 inches of snow, but no one is safe on ice.
Don't know where in the south this was....
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)No maintenance, repair. Power companies won't trim the trees until they pull the lines down, why power gets cut when there are storms, handy.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,229 posts)them trimmed. More importantly, they shouldn't plant trees were they will hit power lines.
Regarding the maintenance of the toll road, people pay to use the toll roads so they can drive faster. Even if they sanded the lanes, no one should have been driving over 50 mph, maybe slower. The video of the FedEx truck I saw, it was probably going 70+.