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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:25 PM Feb 2021

DeJoy's new plan for USPS: Slower mail and higher prices, sources say

Source: WaPo

A key provision of the postmaster general’s strategy includes banning air travel for all first-class mail at a time when delivery rates are at historic lows.

Postmaster General Louis DeJoy is preparing to put all first-class mail onto a single delivery track, according to two people briefed on his strategic plan for the U.S. Postal Service, a move that would mean slower and more costly delivery for both consumers and commercial mailers.

DeJoy, with the backing of the agency’s bipartisan but Trump-appointed governing board, has discussed plans to eliminate a tier of first-class mail — letters, bills and other envelope-sized correspondence sent to a local address — designated for delivery in two days. Instead, all first-class mail would be lumped into the same three- to five-day window, the current benchmark for nonlocal mail.

That class of mail is already struggling; only 38 percent was delivered on-time at the end of 2020, the Postal Service reported in federal court. Customers have reported bills being held up, and holiday cards and packages still in transit. Pharmacies and prescription benefits managers have told patients to request medication refills early to leave additional time for mail delays. The agency has not disclosed on-time scores yet in 2021.

The new service standards are part of a strategic plan that DeJoy, a former logistics executive and major Republican donor, is set to roll out in the coming days. While the change is not expected to have a significant impact on local service, the people said, they have commercial mailers, including banks, insurers, retailers and publications, worried they may aggravate existing slowdowns for nonlocal mail.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/02/12/dejoys-new-plan-usps-slower-mail-higher-prices-sources-say/

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DeJoy's new plan for USPS: Slower mail and higher prices, sources say (Original Post) demmiblue Feb 2021 OP
done to benefit UPS. amazon crap will get first priority nt msongs Feb 2021 #1
Doesn't it save the environment as well? jimfields33 Feb 2021 #11
As I understand it, normally there *are* extensive studies required Crash2Parties Feb 2021 #31
DeJoy is a Trump henchman. Kingofalldems Feb 2021 #45
Doesn't he own stock in companies that would benefit from hamstrung USPS? nt wiggs Feb 2021 #2
Yup. between 30 and 75 million LiberalLovinLug Feb 2021 #23
Yes, just like the much better healthcare plan Trump promised. Lonestarblue Feb 2021 #40
Yes he does NHvet Feb 2021 #48
They need to bring the curtain down on his bum. Now. OnDoutside Feb 2021 #3
I thought the Biden Admimistration was going to replace that horror monger? TigressDem Feb 2021 #4
They can't, at least not immediately. Only the USPS board can fire the postmaster, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2021 #7
Ahhh, but I knew there was some recent hope.... Biden can fill VACANCIES on the USPS Board TigressDem Feb 2021 #18
Post Office is basically an autonomous agency nykym Feb 2021 #9
Get rid of this criminal ASAP. dalton99a Feb 2021 #5
Fire him Rebl2 Feb 2021 #6
I wanted that too... but the Post Master General isn't appointed by Prez... TigressDem Feb 2021 #19
His plan Rebl2 Feb 2021 #22
YES.... but once the DEM majority is in place.... he either plays ball or leaves the game. TigressDem Feb 2021 #27
Hope Biden Rebl2 Feb 2021 #46
Does DeJoy really MyOwnPeace Feb 2021 #8
If it gets any slower it'll be going backwards bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #10
He's so goddamn awful! sakabatou Feb 2021 #12
Call him before Congress. If he doesn't comply site him with contempt. Cattledog Feb 2021 #13
Names of the USPS Board need to be made quite public 3825-87867 Feb 2021 #14
They ARE --- New Chairman is a DEM TigressDem Feb 2021 #20
Don't really have a real problem having first class mail delivered in 3 - 5 days, rather than 2. Hoyt Feb 2021 #15
EXCEPT that businesses will pick Fedex or UPS for urgent deliveries. TigressDem Feb 2021 #25
Businesses can pay extra for overnight or 2-day delivery with USPS if rush. Hoyt Feb 2021 #28
But when USPS does it with First Class anyway and costs less.... it's very nice. TigressDem Feb 2021 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author jimfields33 Feb 2021 #34
Nah....he's on the way out. paleotn Feb 2021 #16
why in the hell llashram Feb 2021 #17
Republican efficiency makes things very slow and expensive IronLionZion Feb 2021 #21
Ain't it the TRUTH?! TigressDem Feb 2021 #26
Republicans seem to be modeling everything after the old Soviet Union. nt yaesu Feb 2021 #41
Get him out now! ananda Feb 2021 #24
That grifter still there? nt Hiawatha Pete Feb 2021 #30
Well, yes. He'd have to raise prices. Turbineguy Feb 2021 #32
Imprison or fine DeJoy Mendocino Feb 2021 #33
WTF is Dejoy still doing there? mdbl Feb 2021 #35
In any other goddamned business/company, this asshole woulda been canned months ago Blue Owl Feb 2021 #36
Why hasn't he been fired yet? Nasruddin Feb 2021 #37
Why the F hasn't he been fired yet? karin_sj Feb 2021 #38
Just resign Mr DeJoy so you can get your life in order before prison. srose58089 Feb 2021 #39
Self-serving sycophant of Trump with a goal of sabotaging the PO for two reasons: his own gain and l keithbvadu2 Feb 2021 #42
Can anyone verify this? Cattledog Feb 2021 #43
WHY IS HE NOT FIRED YET? HE was hired by TRUMP... BIDEN needs to fix this yuiyoshida Feb 2021 #44
Exactly this! dchill Feb 2021 #53
Biden can remove DeJoy Galraedia Feb 2021 #47
fuck that guy. twice. TeamPooka Feb 2021 #49
Please just fire this weissmam Feb 2021 #50
Not understanding the OP MichMan Feb 2021 #51
Why is this bdamomma Feb 2021 #52
I guess he plans on destroying the place before he leaves. Jay25 Feb 2021 #54
Dude still answers to USPS competitors? badboy67 Feb 2021 #55
Get him OUT! nt live love laugh Feb 2021 #56
shitcan. immediately. bringthePaine Feb 2021 #57
He needs to be removed ASAP. No one presents a plan like Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #58

jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
11. Doesn't it save the environment as well?
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:42 PM
Feb 2021

Airplanes have to use more carbon then mail trucks. I’m not sure I’m against the ban on airplanes to transport mail. I wish they did a study on the environmental impact of flying mail compared to driving mail. That might satisfy all of us.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
31. As I understand it, normally there *are* extensive studies required
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:28 PM
Feb 2021

for such changes. DeJoy simply ignores this standard.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
23. Yup. between 30 and 75 million
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:06 PM
Feb 2021

IMO the plan was to cripple the PS so badly, especially with a Trump second term, that Americans get angry with the service level. 'What the hell are we paying taxes for?!!!"

Conservative governments around the world use this tactic to push privatization. Starve some government services of funds and any other way they can. People start to grumble. Then next election decry the opposition's support of a "failing" department that is a money pit with lazy unionized workers, and government waste rampant.

While they propose a plan to privatize the mail service. Hand it over to one of their wealthy donors to run it like a business, headed by someone who can make the hard decisions to streamline the service, and cut costs. With an impossible promise that this new private service will provide just as good, or better service, and because of their business prowess, and efficiency, that even with exorbitant executive payout, and shareholders payout, the public will still save money. And once a service is privatized, good luck every making it a public service ever again unless there is some kind of physical revolution.

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
40. Yes, just like the much better healthcare plan Trump promised.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 08:23 PM
Feb 2021

People need to take a look at what happened to rural hospitals when private equity investors got involved. Many of them were in rural communities, and their profits were too low or nonexistent, so they were closed. There were several reasons, but changes to the ACA made by Trump and his minions plus really low Medicaid and Medicare payments contributed. If the USPS gets privatized, rural communities can say goodbye to their postal services because keeping offices open will not be cost effective. Biden needs to get rid of DeJoy sooner rather than later before he makes changes that are impossible or costly to reverse, including secretly destroying more equipment.

Some have commented here that sending mail by air just contributes to pollution, but it has been my understanding that most of these are regularly scheduled passenger flights, not special flights just for mail. Is that not the case?

NHvet

(240 posts)
48. Yes he does
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:52 PM
Feb 2021

He owns stock in XPO a trucking company which contracts out to long haul mail. He's made millions off the PO and recent won a long term no bid contract to continue doing so. Fox managing the hen house.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
7. They can't, at least not immediately. Only the USPS board can fire the postmaster,
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:34 PM
Feb 2021

and at least until more board members are appointed, that won't happen because a majority of the board is Trump appointees.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
18. Ahhh, but I knew there was some recent hope.... Biden can fill VACANCIES on the USPS Board
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:52 PM
Feb 2021
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/538049-obama-administration-official-elected-chair-of-postal-service-board

Democrat elected chair of Postal Service Board of Governors

Ron Bloom, a Democrat appointed by former President Trump who has served on the Postal Service board since 2019, said he looked forward to working on a "comprehensive plan" to revitalize the agency.

“It will require both ourselves and our stakeholders to come together, openly face our challenges, make necessary choices and do what is right for this great organization and our country,” he said in a statement.

Bloom previously served under former President Obama as his senior counselor for manufacturing policy. He will succeed Robert Duncan, a Republican who has served as the Postal Service board chairman since September 2018 and will continue as a board governor.

*****

President Biden has faced calls to shake up the leadership of the Postal Service. Its board is comprised of six Trump appointees, two of whom are Democrats.

There are currently three vacancies on the nine-person board. The American Postal Workers Union has called on Biden to fill the vacancies with Democrats, giving the party a simple majority.

"It should become a 5-to-4 ... majority choices of the Democratic Party," Mark Dimondstein, the union's president, told NPR.




nykym

(3,063 posts)
9. Post Office is basically an autonomous agency
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:35 PM
Feb 2021

Governed by a board of directors.
They the board have the sole ability to remove dejoy.

Rebl2

(13,492 posts)
6. Fire him
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:33 PM
Feb 2021

NOW! Joe! Fill the empty seats on the board of governors with your people and then get rid of this idiot dejoy.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
19. I wanted that too... but the Post Master General isn't appointed by Prez...
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:57 PM
Feb 2021
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/538049-obama-administration-official-elected-chair-of-postal-service-board


BUT.... the Board is ASKING Biden to appoint DEMS to give DEMS a simple 5-4 majority.



AND... with his eye on working under DEMS and the new Administration.... DeJoy is at least mouthing some different things...



BLOOM is A DEM elected to lead the Board....

Bloom said Tuesday that he would work with the agency's governors and its postmaster general, Louis DeJoy, on a 10-year plan to revitalize the agency, The Associated Press reported.

At Tuesday's meeting, DeJoy also reportedly apologized for mail service delays experienced by many Americans over the past year, which came amid both the COVID-19 pandemic and DeJoy's own efforts to institute operational changes at the agency before the November election.


Rebl2

(13,492 posts)
22. His plan
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:06 PM
Feb 2021

to slow first class mail even more isn’t going to help anything. His apology rings hollow because of his new plan.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
27. YES.... but once the DEM majority is in place.... he either plays ball or leaves the game.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:15 PM
Feb 2021

SO his stupidity is like tRump burning the place down on his way out is my read on it.


MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
8. Does DeJoy really
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:35 PM
Feb 2021

have his head so far up his own "lost mail" chute that he thinks he's gonna' be around longer than next week's 'junk mail?'

If President Joe doesn't have DeJoy on the 'Return to Sender' list real soon I'm gonna' be very surprised!

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
10. If it gets any slower it'll be going backwards
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:40 PM
Feb 2021

Aside from packages, only about 5 or 6 pieces of mail are USPS essential for me now. Two tax bills, 1099 or two, car and license registrations. Some of that could be handled online. Wish I could just pick up the mail twice a year. It's all junk. But they won't do that.

Cattledog

(5,914 posts)
13. Call him before Congress. If he doesn't comply site him with contempt.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:45 PM
Feb 2021

Then call each and every member of the board as well.

3825-87867

(843 posts)
14. Names of the USPS Board need to be made quite public
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:48 PM
Feb 2021

and photos and info on them since they draw a public paycheck. Let it go from there.

Surely they would get their "public suggestions mail" on time?

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
20. They ARE --- New Chairman is a DEM
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:01 PM
Feb 2021
https://about.usps.com/who/leadership/board-governors/



Ron A. Bloom
Chairman, Board of Governors

Roman Martinez IV
Vice Chairman, Board of Governors

John M. Barger
Member, Board of Governors

Robert M. Duncan
Member, Board of Governors

Donald L. Moak
Member, Board of Governors

William D. Zollars
Member, Board of Governors

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
15. Don't really have a real problem having first class mail delivered in 3 - 5 days, rather than 2.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:49 PM
Feb 2021

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
25. EXCEPT that businesses will pick Fedex or UPS for urgent deliveries.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:11 PM
Feb 2021

First class is affordable alternative and NOW that the 75 Year "paid in advance" health benefits law is being changed, the USPS should be able to breathe again.

A law passed in 2006 put 110 BILLION Dollar burden on the USPS that no other government agency has to live up to and affected their ability to run at a profit.


https://defazio.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/defazio-authored-bill-to-help-us-postal-service-maintain-sustainability


DeFazio-Authored Bill to Help US Postal Service Maintain Sustainability Passes House of Representatives
Feb 5, 2020
Press Release

Today the House of Representatives passed decisively bipartisan legislation authored by Rep. Peter DeFazio that would provide the United States Postal Service (USPS) with much-needed financial relief by ending the agency’s burdensome prefunding mandate on future retiree health benefits. The legislation passed by a vote of 309 to 106, with 87 Republicans voting in favor of the bill.


In 2006, Congress passed a law to require the USPS to prefund 75 years worth of retiree health benefits in the span of ten years—a cost of approximately $110 billion. Although the money is intended to be set aside for future Post Office retirees, the funds are instead being diverted to help pay down the national debt.

No other private enterprise or federal agency is required to prefund retiree health benefits on a comparable timetable. The mandate is responsible for all of USPS’s financial losses since 2013.


TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
29. But when USPS does it with First Class anyway and costs less.... it's very nice.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:20 PM
Feb 2021

My little shop supports USPS whenever we can.

$3.50 for first class vs $8.50 - $30 for faster and you can get it in 1, 2 or 3 days with first class.


Response to TigressDem (Reply #25)

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
16. Nah....he's on the way out.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:49 PM
Feb 2021

Biden is about to fill the 3 vacancies on the Post Office Board of Governors, given Dems a 5 to 4 margin. When that happens, DeJoy will no longer be joyful. Bye, Louis.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
17. why in the hell
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:52 PM
Feb 2021

can't this POS be forced out. He is a seditious POS and a traitor. He is a dyed in the wool trump chump.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
21. Republican efficiency makes things very slow and expensive
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:05 PM
Feb 2021

they always tell you government doesn't work and every time they get elected they prove it. DeJoy is blatantly trying to kill the postal service so GOP can use it as an excuse for privatization. They can't seriously think they're fooling anyone with this crap.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
26. Ain't it the TRUTH?!
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:13 PM
Feb 2021


they always tell you government doesn't work and every time they get elected they prove it.



SOLUTION:

RETHUGS! STOP RUNNING FOR OFFICE. LET PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THE JOB DO IT and it will get done.





Turbineguy

(37,319 posts)
32. Well, yes. He'd have to raise prices.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:42 PM
Feb 2021

When you reduce efficiency, you have to raise prices. Unless of course, you want to go bankrupt.

That's why most CEO's try and make their organizations more efficient. So they can be more competitive or make higher profits.

Mendocino

(7,486 posts)
33. Imprison or fine DeJoy
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:48 PM
Feb 2021

for willful delay of the mail, about 100 billion+ or more counts.

That will show him!!!!

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
36. In any other goddamned business/company, this asshole woulda been canned months ago
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 07:56 PM
Feb 2021

FUCK HIM AND THE FAT PIECE OF SHIT HE RODE IN ON!

karin_sj

(808 posts)
38. Why the F hasn't he been fired yet?
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 08:18 PM
Feb 2021

He's used corrupt and criminal means to slow down the mail to slow election ballots from reaching their destination in order to help his former boss get re-elected. He has had postal machinery destroyed for no reason other than slowing mail delivery and hurting the U.S mail. His goal is to destroy the U.S. postal system so that it can be privatized, which will enrich him and his cronies. I cannot believe they can't get rid of him for all the illegal and destructive things he's done to OUR fucking postal system!

srose58089

(214 posts)
39. Just resign Mr DeJoy so you can get your life in order before prison.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 08:18 PM
Feb 2021

Do not pass go do not collect $200.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
42. Self-serving sycophant of Trump with a goal of sabotaging the PO for two reasons: his own gain and l
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 08:24 PM
Feb 2021

Self-serving sycophant of Trump with a goal of sabotaging the PO for two reasons: his own gain and loyalty to Trump.

Destroying mail sorting machines and going back to manual labor.

Surely there must be a cost-benefit analysis to make such a business decision. Let's see it.

Cattledog

(5,914 posts)
43. Can anyone verify this?
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 08:36 PM
Feb 2021

Pursuant to Title 39 U.S.C. §202, POTUS has legal authority to fire members of the USPS Board of Governors.

Galraedia

(5,022 posts)
47. Biden can remove DeJoy
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:48 PM
Feb 2021
Once confirmed to the board, governors can only be removed by the president “for cause”; that means their jobs are safe unless the president can show that they engaged in malfeasance or extreme neglect of duty. The board of governors, in turn, selects the postmaster general, who is not subject to Senate approval. And once appointed, the postmaster general can only be removed by the board, though it need not justify its decision.


Source:https://newrepublic.com/article/161345/fire-louis-dejoy-usps

MichMan

(11,910 posts)
51. Not understanding the OP
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 10:43 PM
Feb 2021
"DeJoy, with the backing of the agency’s bipartisan but Trump-appointed governing board, has discussed plans to eliminate a tier of first-class mail — letters, bills and other envelope-sized correspondence sent to a local address — designated for delivery in two days. Instead, all first-class mail would be lumped into the same three- to five-day window, the current benchmark for nonlocal mail.

snip

While the change is not expected to have a significant impact on local service, the people said, they have commercial mailers, including banks, insurers, retailers and publications, worried they may aggravate existing slowdowns for nonlocal mail."


First the OP states the proposed change would affect local mail that is now designated for two day delivery. Then later on it states it is not expected to have a significant impact on local mail.

Jay25

(417 posts)
54. I guess he plans on destroying the place before he leaves.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 12:30 AM
Feb 2021

Did he ever provide answers to some House members when he was brought in for questioning?
I know he was given a timeline to provide answers, if he didn’t, maybe that can be used against him.
They need to move quickly to have him removed.

Vivienne235729

(3,383 posts)
58. He needs to be removed ASAP. No one presents a plan like
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 11:06 AM
Feb 2021

This unless they are compromised. Shameless and infuriating.

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