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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 07:26 AM Feb 2021

Batch of homegrown coronavirus mutations seen in US

Source: CNN

Batch of homegrown coronavirus mutations seen in US

By Maggie Fox, CNN

Updated 9:50 PM ET, Sun February 14, 2021

(CNN)Researchers said Sunday they have identified a batch of similar troubling mutations in coronavirus samples circulating in the United States. They've not only drawn attention to them; they've come up with a better shorthand for referring to them. They've named them after birds.
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The genetic stretch that is mutated, or changed, is called 677. The various changes are so similar that the researchers think evolution favors these particular variants. And it's in a troubling place, said Vaughn Cooper, director of the Center for Evolutionary Biology and Medicine at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, who worked on the study. "This stretch of Spike is important because of its proximity to a region key for virulence," Cooper told CNN via email.
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They've identified seven similar mutations at 677 -- each one appearing to have arisen independently. They named them after birds to make it easier to identify them.

One, called Robin 1, has turned up in more than 30 US states, predominating in the Midwest, they said. A second "first appeared from a Oct 6, 2020 sample from Alabama and is named 'Robin 2' owing to its similarity to the parental Robin 1 sub-lineage," they wrote. It's mainly seen in the Southeast. One called Pelican was first seen in a sample from Oregon, and has since turned up in 12 other states as well as Australia, Denmark, Sweden and India.
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Batch of homegrown coronavirus mutations seen in US (Original Post) nitpicker Feb 2021 OP
This should be totally expected. All living things can and will mutate aka have "variants" from ... Botany Feb 2021 #1
Expected, when the virus is allowed to replicate unimpeded. Xipe Totec Feb 2021 #3
"If you stop it from spreading, you stop it from mutating." Botany Feb 2021 #12
These people are putting us all at risk. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #18
What's worse is that we will have millions more C Moon Feb 2021 #31
And the virus might not only travel around America but world wide too. Botany Feb 2021 #38
Absolutely true. We can thank the anti maskers wnylib Feb 2021 #16
And thank Trump as well, since he encouraged this dangerous stupidity. BlueStater Feb 2021 #24
I do not want innocent people wnylib Feb 2021 #36
I just saw this morning that Ebola is back BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #9
I guess we didn't have enough excitement this year and last. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #19
Yeah the spillover is just awful... BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #20
Perhaps we are entering... 2naSalit Feb 2021 #2
My arm is going to be so sore from booster shots! bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #5
Yeah... 2naSalit Feb 2021 #7
And, Delphinus Feb 2021 #35
I fear that we are living through the opening scenes of a contagion horror movie... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #11
It's the Northern Exposure post-apocalypse episode come to life bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #14
You're probably right about that. 2naSalit Feb 2021 #15
The 1918 flu pandemic had at least 3 waves and wnylib Feb 2021 #17
Massive expansion of humans into formerly unpopulated areas.... paleotn Feb 2021 #22
At least scientists are testing and identifying them bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #4
This is one of the great evils of the deniers. If we restrain it's spread, we restrain it's Squinch Feb 2021 #6
+1 2naSalit Feb 2021 #10
Earth is Getting Serious Barb arian Feb 2021 #8
Welcome to our DU family. I think that you may be quite correct. niyad Feb 2021 #13
Damn Right I'm Correct Barb arian Feb 2021 #29
Mother Earth is not going to let us destroy her. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #21
She can dispatch the plague that is humanity very efficiently. niyad Feb 2021 #33
Oh yes, between sending us plagues, heat, cold, fires, quakes, etc. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #34
K riversedge Feb 2021 #23
In our Sunday paper there was an interesting story DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #25
That's horrifying. StarryNite Feb 2021 #26
😮 JudyM Feb 2021 #30
It wasn't meant to be a doomsday scenario, just DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #32
Right, I get the specificity of this case, but multiple mutations surprised me. JudyM Feb 2021 #37
Here's a thought for Bizarro World. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #27
RNA viruses like coronavirus tend to mutate rapidly Warpy Feb 2021 #28

Botany

(70,501 posts)
1. This should be totally expected. All living things can and will mutate aka have "variants" from ...
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 08:13 AM
Feb 2021

... one generation to the next and since viruses have new generations quickly then seeing
new mutations/variants should not be a surprise.

The important questions should be:

1) Will the new strains be immune to the vaccines now in use?

2) Will we be able to produce new vaccines to keep up with the mutations?

3) Will the new strains be more contagious and or lethal?

*******
And never forget that President Obama had left the people, the protocols, and the material in place that
would have stopped this international viral nightmare from happening. See Ebola .... 2 Americans died from
that.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
3. Expected, when the virus is allowed to replicate unimpeded.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:28 AM
Feb 2021

If you stop it from spreading, you stop it from mutating.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
12. "If you stop it from spreading, you stop it from mutating."
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:03 AM
Feb 2021

That is easier said then done. We still have millions of Americans who refuse to wear a
mask or wear it right because it violates their "free dumbs." I was just over in rural
Western MD and the # of Trump voting dumb fucks who were going w/out masks was
staggering.

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
18. These people are putting us all at risk.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:40 AM
Feb 2021

We will keep getting mutations, some of which may cause real problems.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
31. What's worse is that we will have millions more
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:11 PM
Feb 2021

refusing to wear masks after they are vaccinated.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
38. And the virus might not only travel around America but world wide too.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:21 PM
Feb 2021

We might be dealing with what I am afraid to write about.

wnylib

(21,446 posts)
36. I do not want innocent people
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 05:07 PM
Feb 2021

to get reinfected from the new strains. But, if reinfection is possible, then I very much hope that Traitor Trump gets it again, without the special care he got in the WH. Same for the rest of theTraitor Party members. No one deserves it more.

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
2. Perhaps we are entering...
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:20 AM
Feb 2021

A great depopulating event cycle where viruses are what will decrease human population over a period of time. Probably until people wise up about them and keeping safe. I wonder how many that will be and how long it will take.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
5. My arm is going to be so sore from booster shots!
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:46 AM
Feb 2021

and I'm thinking along the same lines. Could be 2-3 years before we know a lot more. Could be 5-6 before the genie goes back in the bottle. Or could be endless mutations into something less - or more - virulent.

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
7. Yeah...
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:54 AM
Feb 2021

It's going to require a shift in human behavior and that could take a long time. I will get the vaccine(s) when needed, assuming there will be boosters. Looks like we have the viruses to deal with along with climate crises so we have a lot to watch out for in the near and distant future.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. I fear that we are living through the opening scenes of a contagion horror movie...
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:01 AM
Feb 2021

... that will get worse and worse throughout this decade.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
14. It's the Northern Exposure post-apocalypse episode come to life
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:07 AM
Feb 2021

Conservatives were practicing cancel culture against that show for sure. Anything they didn't want to see or hear.

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
15. You're probably right about that.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:08 AM
Feb 2021

Too many are not willing to understand the truth. They think something other than the facts will save them.

wnylib

(21,446 posts)
17. The 1918 flu pandemic had at least 3 waves and
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:23 AM
Feb 2021

lasted for 2 years before it started to fade away. We couldn't trace mutations of it then like we can today, but we do know that the later 1957-1958 pandemic was a descendant mutation - 40 years after the original. I had the 1958 version when I was a child.

ON EDIT: Afterthought - Wonder if that's how I developed a bird allergy?

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
22. Massive expansion of humans into formerly unpopulated areas....
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:44 AM
Feb 2021

coupled with climate change is a recipe for disaster experts have been warning about for 40+ years. So far good science and dumb luck has come between us and the devil. As bad as Covid-19 is, we should thank our personal gods every day that it's not like MERS. What's next? Who knows?

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
6. This is one of the great evils of the deniers. If we restrain it's spread, we restrain it's
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:48 AM
Feb 2021

mutation. The more mutations, the more chances for it to develop a mutation that resists vaccination and our efforts to treat it.



2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
10. +1
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:59 AM
Feb 2021

Isn't that what has happened with TB? I know it's bacterial, yet partially treatable with vaccine, but several years back there was a lot of news about it mutating into drug resistant varieties. It is transmissible through similar vectors so it works, sort of, as an example.

 

Barb arian

(20 posts)
8. Earth is Getting Serious
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:56 AM
Feb 2021

It's observed how destructive the homo sapiens virus has been, and is thus creating more antibodies!

 

Barb arian

(20 posts)
29. Damn Right I'm Correct
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 03:08 PM
Feb 2021

I was molested by my father from the ages of 6-13. I've also been raped twice as an adult. Like Gaia Herself, I know an invasive organism when I see it!

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
34. Oh yes, between sending us plagues, heat, cold, fires, quakes, etc.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:24 PM
Feb 2021

She will keep knocking us around until we behave.
Or else as you indicate.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
25. In our Sunday paper there was an interesting story
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 11:45 AM
Feb 2021

about a 73 yr old cancer patient who ultimately died from covid19. Because his immune system was suppressed the virus had a chance to mutate at will. The hospital sequenced the virus as they were fighting it in the patient and noticed how fast it mutated and how it also produced what are now known as the UK and S Afr variants. All the mutations stayed within the patient's own body.

Story was posted on post-gazette.com, but no direct link.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
32. It wasn't meant to be a doomsday scenario, just
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 04:13 PM
Feb 2021

interesting and only applicable to people with seriously suppressed immune systems. Because of the cancer treatments, this patient's immune system was completely surpressed. He had no defense whatsoever against the virus although he did get convalescent plasma, iirc, at some point.

All I have read and heard is that viruses mutate, it's not unique to this particular corona virus. And so far, ALL of the vaccines have been effective at limiting the severity of the covid19, hospitalizations and death. Take heart, we will get through this.

JudyM

(29,236 posts)
37. Right, I get the specificity of this case, but multiple mutations surprised me.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 06:25 PM
Feb 2021

I don’t know a lot about the genetics of viruses, and never read about ongoing sequencing of virus in a patient, so it’s all news. I know we’ll get through it, eventually... at least the right people are in charge now!

I’d love to see research on the political distribution of Covid mortalities in the US.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
27. Here's a thought for Bizarro World.
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 02:08 PM
Feb 2021

Is it possible that there will be those who think they prefer to catch these variants, because they arose in the USA?

Little would surprise me on any front these days.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
28. RNA viruses like coronavirus tend to mutate rapidly
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 02:44 PM
Feb 2021

so this is kind of a "well, duh" story. Mutations are useful for tracking the origin of a particular strain. That new strains are developing in the US comes as absolutely no surprise, since so little was done by our government to encourage people to stop spreading it.

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