First rolling blackouts hit Nebraska after cold snap spikes power use; conserve to avoid more
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Source: Omaha World Herald
By Aaron Sanderford
Get a blanket and some warm clothes, Nebraska. The first rolling blackouts because of this week's bitter cold have hit Nebraska. And more might be coming soon if people don't conserve power in the ways local utilities recommend.
The 17-state Southwest Power Pool, of which Nebraska utilities are members, announced at midday Monday that its members, stretching from North Dakota to Texas, were using more power than the combined utilities were producing and had tapped as much as they could of available reserve supplies.
In our history as a grid operator, this is an unprecedented event and marks the first time SPP has ever had to call for controlled interruptions of service, said Lanny Nickell, SPPs executive vice president and chief operating officer. Its a last resort that we understand puts a burden on our member utilities and the customers they serve, but its a step were consciously taking to prevent circumstances from getting worse."
The Lincoln Electric System was among the first Nebraska utilities to announce its participation. LES officials said the power outages had started and tweeted that any such outages will last 30 to 60 minutes but might last longer.
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Our power was off just over an hour. We didn't know it was a rolling black out until after the power came back on.
EDIT to add the power company just called to apologize after the email Marta sent them. Yes an actual person to person call.
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)LeftInTX
(25,258 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)And in Texas...
Instead of rotating outages that were to last 15 to 45 minutes to manage the load, utilities experienced outages that have lasted for hours, officials with the Electric Reliability Council of Texas said in a briefing Monday.
Nearly 2.8 million customers had no electricity as of 1:30 p.m. CST, according to poweroutage.us.
source: https://weather.com/news/news/2021-02-15-winter-storm-uri-texas-power-outages-impacts
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)If you lose heat, take a large metal can and put a lit candle in it
2 of those in a small room can warm the room by 20-30 degrees
We keep can/candles in our vehicles, just in case we get stuck in the winter
We once lost electricity for four days, we had gas fireplace and gas oven so we were fine but folks in all electric apartments had a rough time
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)It might manage to heat a room 1-2 degrees with good insulation, but most likely the room temp would need to drop until a heat flow balance was maintained, and that's probably in the 40s-50s °F.
I use this method as well as oil lamps to heat greenhouses against late spring freezes (like 29°F). It only keeps the greenhouse near 35, and this is a very small volume.
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)If you dont want the extra degrees dont use them but you saying they dont work could actually cost someone a digit
But yes it would need to be better insulated than a greenhouse
Shrugs
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)A typical house room, it's a nice decoration. When I lose power in winter and can't bring the generator online (because of 2 feet of snow and blizzard conditions), I use a Kerosene heater. Safe for indoor use and with ~24,000 BTUs, it will keep a house toasty.
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)They dont have generaters or big fancy heaters and they really dont have the money for hours/days worth of kerosene
Obviously my advice was not for the upper class
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)And I pointed out the issue with candles because I know, based on experience and mechanical engineering training that it's not enough heat. If mere survival is the issue, the house will provide it. It's shelter and a secure wind break. Clothing and blankets plus the enclosed air volume will allow someone to last days without a heat source.
I have a Lowes kerosene heater and a generator because I lose power every year from some event. It's New England. Harsh winters and violent wind storms are the norm.
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)And tons of kerosene
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Generators are owned by a lot of working class in my area and it only takes about 5 gallons of Kerosene to heat a house for 2-3 days @ $3.99 a gallon. The gasoline for the generator is far more expensive than the kerosene.
Are you confusing stand alone generators with portable units? I'm talking about portable generators that can be had for $300.
As for why I NEED a generator - I have Severe Obstructive Sleep Apnea. So severe that my pulse oximetry dropped to 79 during a sleep lab study. So yeah, I need my PAP machine. And that requires electricity.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Ive heard its going to happen here, and I dont know how it works. Ive turned down the thermostat for the grid, and lit the fireplace for me.
All help appreciated!
Omaha Steve
(99,582 posts)So the fire was already going. We have a half dozen emergency lights that come on when the power goes off.
What pissed us off after the fact was that we had no warning it would happen. AFTER the power came back on we learned it was the first rolling black out.
We have unplugged items not in use. It's about all we can do.
OS
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)Turn your oven on now, let your water drip fast when power goes out and open the cabinet doors so the heat can drift to the pipes
Shut off any rooms you dont need (unless they have water pipes)
Dress warm and get your sleeping bag/bed ready in front of that fireplace
Remember by having the fireplace you are one of the lucky ones
Larissa
(790 posts)In the Northeast it was not an uncommon problem during winter cold snaps. Check the water pipes regularly during, and after, the cold snap. (Some reports are that this deep freeze could run through to the end of February.) It was weird how the pipes seem to burst just as the weather was warming up. Seriously, though, be safe.
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)Knock on wood 🪵
We have never had frozen pipes in our house and we have been here over 35 years
But I know growing up on the farm frozen pipes could be an expensive nightmare
You be careful too!
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)Stove, Oven, Dryer (if electric). Using the fireplace is a good idea.
Living in California, I just finally added a generator to the list of appliances any household needs.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Unless you have an efficient metal heat box, the fireplace will pull more warm air up the chimney than it adds to the house. The room with the fireplace gets warmer, but outlying rooms get colder.
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)I am talking survival
Your post dissing the candles for heat mentioned 40-50 degrees.....at that temperature a jacket and extra pair of socks would be enough
I am talking trying to get from frozen to just miserable
Have a great evening
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Ive lost heating due to furnace failures and Ive lost power in several snow storms, twice for days. Just having an enclosed structure will keep you alive. Clothing and blankets will do the rest. What I focus on is how to save the plumbing.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)When the fireplace becomes your only source of heat the inefficiency of more heat going up the chimney still means some of it remains. Right now its the only thing keeping my home above freezing.
Tess49
(1,579 posts)Initech
(100,063 posts)Hip2bSquare
(291 posts)This deep freeze sure has been a doozy. It's been freezing here in Colorado and I was wondering if my furnance was going to keep up. I'm thrilled it's finally 27 degrees and the sun is shining... hopefully nothing but up from here.
Great tip on the candles...something to keep in mind. Plus hopefully we can have some real honest discussions about our grid. We are vunerable and in serious need of upgrades.
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)they always keep in their car. One of the things was a candle. I asked her why? She said heat. I said how much heat can you get from a candle? She said enough to keep your fingers and toes from getting frostbitten.
Coyote45
(29 posts)-2 degrees. off 30 minutes starting at noon. 1st blackout i can recall.
we use bluestem electric. north central kansas. Maybe i will get a tractor started by then.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Hopefully around 53 by next Monday which will seem like 80. But it's clearing off here and we're looking at 10-12 below zero by morning. It was -8 this morning in Wichita.
samsingh
(17,595 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,845 posts)That was the first time I had ever heard (or at least recalled in my adult lifetime) of the term "rolling blackout". I thought the term was a joke. I initially I had to dig to find when it was because I knew it was quite some time ago and I did finally find this from a NYT archive --and it was related to the January 1994 ice storms (ugh) -
By Matthew L. Wald
Jan. 20, 1994
(snip)
In Washington, the Federal Government sent nonessential employees home at 3 P.M. so building thermostats could be turned down and told them to stay home today too. Essential workers were told to plan to wear their overcoats in the office. The Governor of Pennsylvania declared a state of emergency at noon yesterday and sent state employees home; a spokesman for Philadelphia Electric said that by mid-afternoon most businesses in that city were closed. In New Jersey, state workers were sent home an hour early.
And utilities in most of the Northeast cut voltage or asked customers to limit use. The problem hit most severely in a utility consortium called the PJM, or Pennsylvania-Jersey-Maryland, Interconnection, an electric grid serving 22 million people spread over New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, the District of Columbia and the sliver of Virginia east of the Chesapeake Bay.
Power companies imposed blackouts neighborhood by neighborhood, from before dawn until about 1 P.M. in the district and those five states, concentrating in residential areas. The blackouts were short enough to spare residents major problems, the companies said. Officials had planned more blackouts last night, but found that voluntary conservation made that unnecessary.
First Time in Winter
At Philadelphia Electric, Bill Jones, a spokesman, said this was the first time since 1971 his company had been forced to impose rolling blackouts, and the first time in winter. Yesterday his company was trying to persuade the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency to salt the roads leading to the company's Cromby Generating Station, in Phoenixville, Pa., where an oil-fired generator had run dry. "It's been icy for two weeks and everybody's out of salt," Mr. Jones said. Oil-laden barges bound for generating stations up the Delaware River were blocked by ice floes, he said.
https://www.nytimes.com/1994/01/20/nyregion/frozen-out-of-fuel-utilities-impose-scattered-blackouts.html
1994 was the last time (knock on wood) that Philly recorded a below 0 temperature. That month and the next, the entire area ran out of salt - both road salt AND consumer halite products. I remember there were "truck caravans" that drove down from NY to help supply the area to do the roads. I also remember I had a work trip scheduled to Baltimore during the worst of the ice storms and I was amazingly able to cop a couple bags of halite (carried home in my suitcase) for my mom because there was absolutely nothing available anywhere in the area. Her front walk ended up being the only one on the block that was clear and dry to the pavement.
This type of thing tends to be unusal because our biggest power usage by far is during the summer for air-conditioning, but it was one of those rough winters (and we are going through a "mini" version of it right now).
So we definitely feel for you guys and have been there done that.
hibbing
(10,096 posts)Supposed to be -23 tonight. I did head out today because i had to pick up prescription. At least my car started, but it is in the garage. I may go out and start the car in the driveway...brrr! I have my thermostat set to 65, we'll see what happens with these blackouts.
Peace
FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)Not a farmer, but it stands to reason. This is nothing new, there are blackouts and brownouts all the time in rural areas. No politics here, it's all weather-related, and seasonal
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)There is a good size metropolitan area called OMAHA and another called LINCOLN that this is impacting.
And weather-related rolling blackouts don't happen all the time, in fact, this is a first.
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)Definitely not all the time.
AllaN01Bear
(18,159 posts)if your cell phone is dead and has no power, and if your house still has a old line jack that is dead and u have a old analog phone , plug it in to call 911 even if the wall jack is dead . should have an analog phone( non cordless) nearby to call.
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,582 posts)Our daughter was without power. It is back on. Now Marta's office is without power.