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sabra

(30,404 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 11:50 AM Feb 2021

Trump supporters are planning to storm the Capitol again on 4 March, lawmaker warns

Source: Independent UK

Donald Trump’s supporters are allegedly planning a second attack on the US Capitol on 4 March, a Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee has said.

Adam Smith, the chairman of the committee, told defence officials on Wednesday that QAnon conspiracy theorists and Trump supporters were considering another siege on the Capitol on that day, CNN reported.

QAnon conspiracists — borrowing claims made by the extremist sovereign citizens movement — believe that Mr Trump will come back as US president on 4 March — the day inaugurations took place before 1933.

According to theories circulating online, the United States has not been a country since the gold standard was unpegged in 1933 under Franklin D Roosevelt, while no president has been legitimate since the 16th amendment was passed in 1871 under Ulysses S. Grant.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-4-march-qanon-capitol-b1804041.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1613660281

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Trump supporters are planning to storm the Capitol again on 4 March, lawmaker warns (Original Post) sabra Feb 2021 OP
I seriously doubt it, but wouldn't hurt to have abundant police around soothsayer Feb 2021 #1
That's what I thought TimeToGo Feb 2021 #53
Bring the Guard back, and mow them down. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #74
They better fucking prepare for it this time. Squinch Feb 2021 #2
They will moose65 Feb 2021 #23
There are still 5000 guardsman still in Washington DC Ray Bruns Feb 2021 #44
For sure they won't be told to stand down. dchill Feb 2021 #68
I hope they are met with 50,000 guardsmen UpInArms Feb 2021 #3
I've never, ever felt this way. WinstonSmith4740 Feb 2021 #24
Okay UpInArms Feb 2021 #27
they are traitors and should be napalmed Gato Moteado Feb 2021 #30
It violates the Geneva Convention to use it on people jmowreader Feb 2021 #125
yep Riverman100 Feb 2021 #50
I am with you Traildogbob Feb 2021 #51
I can only imagine the frustration. WinstonSmith4740 Feb 2021 #111
I served with very many Traildogbob Feb 2021 #113
The only thing that made the mob back down colorado_ufo Feb 2021 #58
I think a lot of us think about it, and it may be necessary to discourage the rest Escurumbele Feb 2021 #59
Here's what I think... AZ8theist Feb 2021 #79
WWG1WGS liberalgunwilltravel Feb 2021 #100
Ok, I'm stealing that from you. No credit, tough!!! AZ8theist Feb 2021 #101
I've walked by the Capitol a few times on visits to D.C. One thing that sticks out in my mind Jetheels Feb 2021 #90
I've seen that at the White House... reACTIONary Feb 2021 #121
I hope they are met with 500,000 sane Americans maxrandb Feb 2021 #89
Something tells me that they won't experience the same results that they got the 1st time. nt OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #4
An insurrection bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #5
Voldemort's hotel has jacked up rates LSparkle Feb 2021 #6
Maybe so, but he won't be there FakeNoose Feb 2021 #83
A Trumper I know posted "If Trump would have incited anything, that place would have been brewens Feb 2021 #7
The fact that it failed proves drumpf was behind it soothsayer Feb 2021 #75
Great point. And 100% correct. AZ8theist Feb 2021 #80
This orangecrush Feb 2021 #116
Hope it goes something like this: johnp3907 Feb 2021 #8
What the hell!!!! Traildogbob Feb 2021 #55
Leave the baby at home! johnp3907 Feb 2021 #66
The full film, judged at the Brussels World's Fair, 1958, to be the greatest film of all time. nt littlemissmartypants Feb 2021 #120
Thank you Traildogbob Feb 2021 #122
You bet. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Feb 2021 #123
Go For It colsohlibgal Feb 2021 #9
I was surprised there weren't more shots fired on 1/6. This time Oldem Feb 2021 #10
Given the events of 1/6, Eyeball_Kid Feb 2021 #13
And then the risen from the dead president will call down the flying saucers that will Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2021 #11
Why not? It's how the Q'ers think. Texin Feb 2021 #71
Excellent! Now THIS time have the police cordon them off and "kettle" them right into FailureToCommunicate Feb 2021 #12
If they say that no president has been legitimate since the 16th Amendment, marie999 Feb 2021 #14
Applying logic is futile. Harker Feb 2021 #20
What about St Ronnie of The Airport bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #49
Expecting logic from republiQans is like expecting logic from ducks. Just don't do it. Squinch Feb 2021 #85
They will not show up en mass again. Dustlawyer Feb 2021 #15
They have already said DENVERPOPS Feb 2021 #72
I agree but was not clear, I don't think they will try to storm the U.S. Capitol. Dustlawyer Feb 2021 #104
It is the same thing DENVERPOPS Feb 2021 #117
Let's just ask George Soros to summon up his Jewish space lasers to take out the QAnoners! LaMouffette Feb 2021 #16
Why would they? pandr32 Feb 2021 #17
A lot of former guys will say, "I love you." n/t Harker Feb 2021 #21
BIDEN is President now, he'll make sure the National Guard are in place. Do they still use.... George II Feb 2021 #18
We think alike DENVERPOPS Feb 2021 #33
I've said your last paragraph all along. And I believe it would've gone that way. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #36
March 4th at the Capitol could be fake DENVERPOPS Feb 2021 #86
Nah. There's 1/2 a million Guard members. DC doesnt need more than a few thousand. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #96
Time to get the bayonets out of storage... luvtheGWN Feb 2021 #63
The British still did bayonet charges in Iraq in 2004 NickB79 Feb 2021 #107
They do. jmowreader Feb 2021 #126
I wonder how many snipers will be ready for them? LiberalFighter Feb 2021 #19
It's doubtful there will be a stand-down order this time around dlk Feb 2021 #22
There are those who actually believe that he will become TNNurse Feb 2021 #25
Machine guns locked and very loaded this time I hope. Lucky Luciano Feb 2021 #26
THANK YOU. Jan 6th would've never progressed if they'd popped the 1st 5-6 thru the doors. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #29
I'd like to see an advertising campaign on Billboards and other media that tells them not to bother. Ford_Prefect Feb 2021 #28
Not a bad idea. nt oldsoftie Feb 2021 #34
Screw that DENVERPOPS Feb 2021 #64
Is the National Guard still there? Bayard Feb 2021 #31
So are the Capitol Police Aviation Pro Feb 2021 #38
Yes. About 5000 still there. Ray Bruns Feb 2021 #45
i wonder if trump has told them he'll be there with them.... Gato Moteado Feb 2021 #32
Bunker boy Donnie will be in hiding, with a lackey who will tweet for him. NCjack Feb 2021 #57
exactly like on the 6th when he promised his cult that he would be there with them Gato Moteado Feb 2021 #61
How many cops do you want to kill this next time? keithbvadu2 Feb 2021 #35
All of this in on robleb Feb 2021 #37
wish they'd shut up Marthe48 Feb 2021 #39
I really think they will be back on March 4 AverageOldGuy Feb 2021 #40
Send his name to the FBI. At least get him in a no-fly list. Lucky Luciano Feb 2021 #78
I think they will GopherGal Feb 2021 #118
The Republiqans must be ecstatic Dr. T Feb 2021 #41
So no legitimate president since 1871 ironman99 Feb 2021 #42
This time we don't have a traitor in office to welcome them judesedit Feb 2021 #43
They'll probably go to NY Federal Hall where Washington was inaugurated. 33taw Feb 2021 #46
Deploy the Soylent Green riot control Scoops. LudwigPastorius Feb 2021 #47
IT'S PEOPLE! roamer65 Feb 2021 #108
Except in the Trumpists' case, they aren't revolting against lack of food. LudwigPastorius Feb 2021 #119
Not concerned about the U.S. Capitol. But state capitols and private residences Auggie Feb 2021 #48
I hope Trump will be on the lead horse mdbl Feb 2021 #52
If they breach the building how about hundreds of immediate arrests WITH ZIP ties then..... usaf-vet Feb 2021 #54
16th amendment 1909, not 1871) is about income tax. 1871 was the amended 1807 Insurrection act. They niyad Feb 2021 #56
Assuming they show up...drop them as soon as they start moving on the Capitol. Scalded Nun Feb 2021 #60
I'm just wondering what the congressional Qculters will do on March 4. They should be watched ancianita Feb 2021 #62
You know what my life is missing? BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #65
If they are stupid enough to do it, perhaps they can accommodate them and give them a still_one Feb 2021 #67
Anyone remember the term 'enemy combatants?' Mr. Evil Feb 2021 #69
It's a good thing they have Gab and Parler... ZenDem Feb 2021 #70
Why do I think they won't show up this time? world wide wally Feb 2021 #73
That, and this Clearly fogged in Feb 2021 #94
Well then, have thousands of guards ready sakabatou Feb 2021 #76
They should advertise their plans on social media IronLionZion Feb 2021 #77
Just when you think the nuts can't get any nuttier Major Nikon Feb 2021 #81
Nah, they had their 15 minutes, they won't do a thing..... Jon King Feb 2021 #82
Hopefully it won't happen Oscarthegreat Feb 2021 #84
Let'em try it! sandensea Feb 2021 #87
Let the traitors try. See what happens to them rockfordfile Feb 2021 #88
If it happens, I want D.C. law enforcement well-armed. Paladin Feb 2021 #91
as we used to say in the Marine Corps Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2021 #92
Don't they have to get a permit for an insurrection? JohnnyRingo Feb 2021 #93
Constitutional scholars they're not. Lemmings they are. jaxexpat Feb 2021 #95
Shoot to kill. BlueIdaho Feb 2021 #97
This. orangecrush Feb 2021 #115
If this happens again the only response to these terrorists should be "open fire". hadEnuf Feb 2021 #98
The'll be ready for them this time, but I rather doubt they will follow through. Nitram Feb 2021 #99
WTF? Joinfortmill Feb 2021 #102
This is only a week away matt819 Feb 2021 #103
Fine. Shoot them down like dogs. paleotn Feb 2021 #105
Kill them dead, please dalton99a Feb 2021 #106
In QOP world, Ammon Bundy is a deep thinker. Hassler Feb 2021 #109
QAnon reminds me of this scene from Life of Brian... C Moon Feb 2021 #110
If they attempt this, I hope many are killed or severely injured. nt Progressive Jones Feb 2021 #112
Their reception orangecrush Feb 2021 #114
Free parking passes for March 4th, sign up at twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #124

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
1. I seriously doubt it, but wouldn't hurt to have abundant police around
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 11:53 AM
Feb 2021

And nat guard. I mean, the creepy repugs keep calling for the fencing around the Capitol to be removed and the national guard to leave, so... double up!

TimeToGo

(1,366 posts)
53. That's what I thought
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:53 PM
Feb 2021

I just don't see it happening. HOWEVER, they should absolutely be ready for it.

moose65

(3,168 posts)
23. They will
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:18 PM
Feb 2021

Biden is president this time around, so you better believe that place will be prepared!

Ray Bruns

(4,111 posts)
44. There are still 5000 guardsman still in Washington DC
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:47 PM
Feb 2021

I don't think they are planning leaving anytime soo.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,059 posts)
24. I've never, ever felt this way.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:23 PM
Feb 2021

And it dismays me no end that I feel like this now. But arrested? Fuck that...they were seditionists in January, and they'll be seditionists in March. Shoot them. After a couple go down screaming, the rest will run like the cowards they are.

Gato Moteado

(9,879 posts)
30. they are traitors and should be napalmed
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:31 PM
Feb 2021

i'm sure the military still has plenty of that stuff in stock from the 60s

jmowreader

(50,566 posts)
125. It violates the Geneva Convention to use it on people
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 12:52 PM
Feb 2021

We got around that by bombing foliage and if anyone was under it...oh well.

My recommendation is to get some National Guard Apache units carrying 2.75-inch rocket pods up around the Capitol. If Trump’s Minions attempt to storm the Capitol again, Apaches will solve that shit in a hurry.

Traildogbob

(8,827 posts)
51. I am with you
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:52 PM
Feb 2021

Hate to say it but every time I see the footage of those screaming lunatics, I think live ammo and let em see what being shot back at us like. As a veteran, my blood boils at the images we keep having to see. That hate And rage on their mugs at America was more intense than any enemy abroad I have seen. Looks like the rage in the faces of terrorist extremist in the Middle East after we kill their families, for oil.
Time to liberate America from tyranistic religious extremist here. One of their Messiahs got called back to hell yesterday. His job was accomplished, now Satan wants him by his side to gloat.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,059 posts)
111. I can only imagine the frustration.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 07:02 PM
Feb 2021

When real vets like you watch those wanna be tough guys parade around in camo, playing soldier. And even worse, actual vets who bought into this. Can't remember where I saw it, but someone had written that these guys were too cowardly and stupid to be soldiers or cops, so they do this instead.

Traildogbob

(8,827 posts)
113. I served with very many
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 07:08 PM
Feb 2021

And not all were angels. Many racist, but I can not remember one that would attack our capital and plan on assassinating the upper hierarchy to leave one idiot as king. These vets are shameful and a disgusting representation. They all need to be stripped of honorable discharge and lose all benefits.

colorado_ufo

(5,737 posts)
58. The only thing that made the mob back down
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:59 PM
Feb 2021

was when the woman was shot trying to get through the broken window. Protection is protection. If these jerks attacked police in any municipality with tasers, clubs, bear spray, and more, they would have been shot and/or immediately arrested.

If they try this again, they should be surrounded by National Guard troops and herded into a confined area. Then every last one of them should be arrested and charged with insurrection and sedition and thrown into jail without bond, in D.C., until trial. One phone call each.

Escurumbele

(3,403 posts)
59. I think a lot of us think about it, and it may be necessary to discourage the rest
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 02:01 PM
Feb 2021

These traitors are never going to learn, they are all brainwashed by an invisible leader called QAnon...How someone can take over so many people while no one knowing who it is must be studied, this is a phenomenon that I think is unprecedented and maybe the result of so many people brainwashed by social media, smartphones, and lets face it, the internet.

Things need to change drastically in our country.

 

Jetheels

(991 posts)
90. I've walked by the Capitol a few times on visits to D.C. One thing that sticks out in my mind
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 04:06 PM
Feb 2021

is the always stationed snipers on the roof, in various places. Where the fuc! were they on January 6th?

bucolic_frolic

(43,311 posts)
5. An insurrection
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 11:58 AM
Feb 2021

should be met with sufficient force to quell the insurrection. It's not a pretty thought. But neither is the insurrection.

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
83. Maybe so, but he won't be there
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 03:43 PM
Feb 2021

When the ChumpHumpers find out he's not coming, there will be way less enthusiasm.
I mean, what would be the point? They already know they'd get arrested, maybe even shot at.

brewens

(13,623 posts)
7. A Trumper I know posted "If Trump would have incited anything, that place would have been
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 12:09 PM
Feb 2021

flattened by hundreds of thousands." Yeah right. If so they missed their chance. I'm guessing any further organized effort would be quickly sniffed out and acted on. They wouldn't get anywhere near DC. I'm against excessive surveillance of Americans, but that doesn't include domestic terrorists. I hope the FBI and NSA are up their butts 24/7.

AZ8theist

(5,506 posts)
80. Great point. And 100% correct.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 03:11 PM
Feb 2021

If Doturd didn't inherit/steal $400M from his father, right now he'd be hawking timeshares on a Brooklyn street corner...

Traildogbob

(8,827 posts)
55. What the hell!!!!
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:57 PM
Feb 2021

Freaky as f**k, but... I could not stop watching, and laughing visualizing red hats and Trump garb.
Thank you. The strangely made my day.

littlemissmartypants

(22,822 posts)
120. The full film, judged at the Brussels World's Fair, 1958, to be the greatest film of all time. nt
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 05:14 AM
Feb 2021

Battleship Potemkin, 1925, English subtitles

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
9. Go For It
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 12:16 PM
Feb 2021

I think it’s fair to think they will be met with massively more resistance with instructions to do what they need to do to protect the Capitol.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
13. Given the events of 1/6,
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 12:52 PM
Feb 2021

Rioters ought to be fully aware of the LEA resistance that they'll meet this time around. If they violate laws, they should be met with stiff consequences. We should also fully expect that rioters will be armed, and that Capitol police and other LEA will have to use their own resources to preserve the peace. If that requires the legitimate use of firearms, then so be it. We shouldn't be coddling fascists who are ready and eager to shoot at anyone in their way. Fascists are not peaceful.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
11. And then the risen from the dead president will call down the flying saucers that will
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 12:25 PM
Feb 2021

take them all away to the alt universe they so desparately want to live in.

If I believe hard enough that it willl happen - maybe it will?

FailureToCommunicate

(14,023 posts)
12. Excellent! Now THIS time have the police cordon them off and "kettle" them right into
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 12:29 PM
Feb 2021

custody. Sort out the ones that had previously stormed the Capitol, but that the police were not able to arrest from Jan 6th.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
14. If they say that no president has been legitimate since the 16th Amendment,
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 12:52 PM
Feb 2021

how can Trump come back as president since he is not legitimate?

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
15. They will not show up en mass again.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:01 PM
Feb 2021

Seeing the other traitors being hunted down will have that effect. The die hards may show but the professionals behind Proud Boys etc., know it will not be possible to breach it this time.

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
72. They have already said
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 02:33 PM
Feb 2021

they will be going after the State's Capitols, starting with the states that have dem governors.......

Of course, it all depends on who's side the police are on.

We had a confrontation last year here in Denver. Black lives matter demonstrators, just standing in protest, were brutally attacked by the DPD. The City of Denver is going to be paying out millions and millions over their actions. The cops were intentionally firing paint gun balls at the demonstrator's faces.....I understand the DOJ?/FBI? has come in to investigate it also.....
Not all cops are bad by any means, but the Departments across the nation are loaded with bad racist individuals......

Denver has been paying out millions for years for Police Brutality, or Extreme un-justified Force. Some day the City Council will get tired of paying out for all these cases, and do something about cleaning house of the bad apples before they are overwhelmed with these lawsuits draining the funds of the City of Denver.......

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
104. I agree but was not clear, I don't think they will try to storm the U.S. Capitol.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 05:18 PM
Feb 2021

The military and law enforcement are heavily RW. Years ago I did pro bono work for a police group. I was the only known Democrat at their convention. Gov. Rick Perry spoke at one convention and later Gov. Abbott. The cops liked me due to my work and they learned not to debate me on politics real quick. The sad thing was I would have individual cops come up to me privately, many times, and whisper that they voted for Democrats but if it was found out they would be in both physical jeopardy and lose their job. This happened A LOT!

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
117. It is the same thing
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 08:07 PM
Feb 2021

with Firefighters and Paramedics. And judging from friends who were in the Military or had been in the Military...same thing.

pandr32

(11,617 posts)
17. Why would they?
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:07 PM
Feb 2021

Supporters of the former guy already found he didn't "go with them" as he said he would last time and he left them high and dry without paying legal costs or pardoning them.
Well, he did say he loved them, so there's that.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. BIDEN is President now, he'll make sure the National Guard are in place. Do they still use....
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:12 PM
Feb 2021

...bayonets?

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
33. We think alike
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:32 PM
Feb 2021

that was my thought exactly. Those chicken shits are really brave with police who have been stripped of anything to defend themselves.
Let's have a do-over with battle dressed guard members with fixed bayonets.

I think that if the Capitol police had started dropping the rioters as they came thru the windows and doors, the crowd behind them would have cherried out and run like hell. If any had gotten near Pence, the secret service would have dropped them on the spot....

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
86. March 4th at the Capitol could be fake
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 03:53 PM
Feb 2021

and a way of luring each states National Guard away from the states, so they can go after the state's capitols with each states National Guards sitting in D.C.

oldsoftie

(12,615 posts)
96. Nah. There's 1/2 a million Guard members. DC doesnt need more than a few thousand.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 04:40 PM
Feb 2021

And the idiots arent that organized. I think the GA State Patrol could hold off the nut cases down here.
And there's no way they could be coordinating something like that and the Feds not know it.

jmowreader

(50,566 posts)
126. They do.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 12:58 PM
Feb 2021

But a big box of tear gas powder in the back of a Black Hawk would be a better start. Or maybe hire a crop duster to overfly the insurrectionists and spray them with butyl mercaptan. (John Clark’s Ignition! describes this chemical as having the aroma of an angry skunk.)

dlk

(11,578 posts)
22. It's doubtful there will be a stand-down order this time around
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:17 PM
Feb 2021

There’s a new sheriff in town.

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
25. There are those who actually believe that he will become
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:24 PM
Feb 2021

president on March 4. That is a dangerous level of ignorance.

There needs to be preparations to control and remove them.

oldsoftie

(12,615 posts)
29. THANK YOU. Jan 6th would've never progressed if they'd popped the 1st 5-6 thru the doors.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:30 PM
Feb 2021

As the kids say, play stupid games, win stupid prizes

Ford_Prefect

(7,921 posts)
28. I'd like to see an advertising campaign on Billboards and other media that tells them not to bother.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:28 PM
Feb 2021

"We know you're angry, we know you're committed and we know you don't believe us. We're not going to allow this again. We are ready for you. You will be arrested and you will NOT be allowed into the Capitol. Go home while you can and complain to your people in congress. That's what American patriots have done for over 200 years."

Of course I am assuming they read anything not on their phones.

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
64. Screw that
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 02:16 PM
Feb 2021

post signs around buildings: Anyone crossing this line will be dropped on sight........game over

I would imagine that that is the case with the white house if you are armed, and if you climb the fence and start running towards the white house.
It's just too frikking bad some didn't rush the Secret Service guarding Pence.......Now THAT would have been a video to watch.
The firepower the SS has slung on their shoulders, under their jackets is scary.......ever wonder why the SS never buttons the front of their jackets/?????????

Aviation Pro

(12,188 posts)
38. So are the Capitol Police
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:39 PM
Feb 2021

Bet a lot of eyes opened on the 6th after the 'patriots' eschewed their bullshit 'Blue Lives Matter' and murdered a couple of LEOs (I count the suicides).

keithbvadu2

(36,937 posts)
35. How many cops do you want to kill this next time?
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:33 PM
Feb 2021

How many cops do you want to kill this next time?

"Blue Lives Matter' was just an empty slogan, wasn't it?

Marthe48

(17,035 posts)
39. wish they'd shut up
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:43 PM
Feb 2021

impeached criminal lost. He is probably gloating over the harm to people in Tx. He cares as little for his supporters as he does any other human, which is nothing.

I've been doing a zoom silver sneakers class. We have a group messenger set up for notices, and chit chat. My friend who leads the class got her 1st vaccine yesterday, and was offering advice to members of the class where to get them. The one woman hasn't been able to get a vaccine, and blames Biden. I had already mentioned the steps Pres. Biden is taking, and I didn't say anything else to her. Too bad she can't exercise her brain.

AverageOldGuy

(1,544 posts)
40. I really think they will be back on March 4
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:43 PM
Feb 2021

Last edited Thu Feb 18, 2021, 04:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Maybe not in the numbers as on Jan 6, maybe not as well-armed . . . . however . . .

A local businessman in my rural VA county about 2.5 hours out of DC rented a bus on Jan 6, took 40 people, including a retired deputy sheriff and one local "activist" along with 38 other deluded locals.

I've heard that he has rented two 12-passenger vans for March 4.

GopherGal

(2,010 posts)
118. I think they will
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 12:23 AM
Feb 2021

but there won't be any of that "just here for Short-Fingered Vulgarian's rally" nonsense. There's no deniability anymore. If they show up this time, they're there to stir up trouble.

That'll likely cull out the non-fanatics (or the lesser fanatics). So I expect lower numbers, but more concentrated crazy.

Dr. T

(97 posts)
41. The Republiqans must be ecstatic
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:43 PM
Feb 2021

to get a second bite at the apple. If they didn't get arrested the first time, here's their second chance.

ironman99

(99 posts)
42. So no legitimate president since 1871
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:44 PM
Feb 2021

If, as the MAGAts believe, that no president elected since 1871 is legitimate, why the hell are they fighting so hard to keep tRump in the White House? Wasn't his election illegitimate as well???????

The logic is extremely weak in these ones!!!!

judesedit

(4,443 posts)
43. This time we don't have a traitor in office to welcome them
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:47 PM
Feb 2021

Hope they find that out quickly and neatly, in whatever way works.

LudwigPastorius

(9,181 posts)
47. Deploy the Soylent Green riot control Scoops.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:50 PM
Feb 2021

If that doesn't work, send in Apache helicopters with chain guns.

LudwigPastorius

(9,181 posts)
119. Except in the Trumpists' case, they aren't revolting against lack of food.
Fri Feb 19, 2021, 01:01 AM
Feb 2021

...they're just plain revolting. ...deplorable & seditious too.

Auggie

(31,194 posts)
48. Not concerned about the U.S. Capitol. But state capitols and private residences
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:51 PM
Feb 2021

of our representatives, senators and governors are worrisome.

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
52. I hope Trump will be on the lead horse
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:53 PM
Feb 2021

waving his stupid ass flag. I know, it's just a pipe dream. He's too big of a coward.

usaf-vet

(6,213 posts)
54. If they breach the building how about hundreds of immediate arrests WITH ZIP ties then.....
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:56 PM
Feb 2021

..... straight to detention center awaiting hearing dates. Treat them just like they (Maga) have treated people seeking asylum on our southern borders.

niyad

(113,587 posts)
56. 16th amendment 1909, not 1871) is about income tax. 1871 was the amended 1807 Insurrection act. They
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:58 PM
Feb 2021

They are going to commit insurrection and don't even know which laws they are supposedly dying to protect?? Am I reading this correctly? Do I need more caffeine?? Or is alcohol indicated??

Scalded Nun

(1,241 posts)
60. Assuming they show up...drop them as soon as they start moving on the Capitol.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 02:06 PM
Feb 2021

I am so sick of their treasonous/seditionist shit.

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
62. I'm just wondering what the congressional Qculters will do on March 4. They should be watched
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 02:10 PM
Feb 2021

constantly on the runup.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,571 posts)
65. You know what my life is missing?
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 02:16 PM
Feb 2021

A criminal record, so I'm going to DC!

Oh...and the scorn of most of the world. Solid case for going and doing....whatever.

still_one

(92,422 posts)
67. If they are stupid enough to do it, perhaps they can accommodate them and give them a
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 02:20 PM
Feb 2021

chance to join limbaugh


Mr. Evil

(2,856 posts)
69. Anyone remember the term 'enemy combatants?'
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 02:23 PM
Feb 2021

That's exactly what they are and should be treated as such.

ZenDem

(442 posts)
70. It's a good thing they have Gab and Parler...
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 02:27 PM
Feb 2021

...so they can make big plans and not alert the FBI.

There's a joke of social site in AZ called Freedom Lake. I'm sure that one is inaccessible to those pesky agents, as well.

I don't think we'll be taken off guard, this time. We have a President, now.

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
73. Why do I think they won't show up this time?
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 02:38 PM
Feb 2021

Something to do with the National Guard being ready for them maybe?

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
94. That, and this
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 04:23 PM
Feb 2021

January 6th was for the big dogs, the organizers and the mouthpieces with the resources to travel and comfortably stay in the area. Sure, they were outnumbered by the true believers who also went - the ones who made made the mistakes turning a planned insurrection into a mob scene and spoiling their plans. For the next event the forces behind the scene, the moneymen, will keep their distance. They will still motivate followers, but this time they won't be openly bankrolling things. It's rather odd that those who footed the bills for busses and costs in January aren't the ones we're seeing rounded up and charged.

IronLionZion

(45,541 posts)
77. They should advertise their plans on social media
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 02:42 PM
Feb 2021

and find out the hard way that the current Presidential administration might not choose a "do nothing" approach like the last one.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
82. Nah, they had their 15 minutes, they won't do a thing.....
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 03:30 PM
Feb 2021

Nothing but BS, they will do absolutely nothing now that the Capitol is prepared. They got lucky that Trump gathered them and had law enforcement stand down. These cowards will never try anything again when law enforcement is ready.

 

Oscarthegreat

(121 posts)
84. Hopefully it won't happen
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 03:47 PM
Feb 2021

But if it actually does happens, treat it like an insurrection and do what would be done if a Jihadist terrorist group attacked the US Capitol, and we all know how that kind of attack would be defended.

sandensea

(21,674 posts)
87. Let'em try it!
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 03:54 PM
Feb 2021

If nothing else, it'll be a good way for the FBI to get more of the worms out of the woodwork.

Paladin

(28,276 posts)
91. If it happens, I want D.C. law enforcement well-armed.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 04:08 PM
Feb 2021

Well-armed, with authorization to shoot to kill. Way past time to give the fascists a wake-up call.

JohnnyRingo

(18,650 posts)
93. Don't they have to get a permit for an insurrection?
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 04:15 PM
Feb 2021

hahaha

I bet they'll suddenly love those face masks.... and dark glasses. No selfies.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
97. Shoot to kill.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 04:48 PM
Feb 2021

If past is prologue, this will not be a “peaceful protest.” They will come armed. This insurrection needs to be dispatched with extreme prejudice. We need to leave no doubt that if you attack America you will pay the price.

Nitram

(22,892 posts)
99. The'll be ready for them this time, but I rather doubt they will follow through.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 04:54 PM
Feb 2021

They're all cowards at heart.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
103. This is only a week away
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 05:15 PM
Feb 2021

I'd like to see a statement from the WH early next week spelling out precisely what the security situation will be in DC generally and at the Capitol and WH specifically. Which law enforcement agencies? Which National Guard units? Who has overall operational control?
And legal basis for each entity participating?

Further, this should include which law enforcement agency will be responsible for arresting and processing those suspected of or engaging in criminal activity. And measures being taken to ensure that whichever agency has this responsibility has the capacity to process x number of lawbreakers and can call on y agencies for support.

Specific "rules of engagement," use of lethal weapons (or not).

You know. Behave like a normal president.

Partly related to this, I'd like to see all fencing taken down from around the White House. You know. Like a normal country.

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