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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,697 posts)
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 09:44 PM Feb 2021

Gun store shootout leaves 3 dead, 2 injured, officials say

Source: ABC News

Three people are dead and another two injured after a shooting inside a gun store in Louisiana, authorities said.

The deadly shootout occurred just before 3 p.m. local time Saturday at the Jefferson Gun Outlet in Metairie, located in the New Orleans metropolitan area.

One suspect shot and killed two victims in the store, according to Jefferson Parish Sheriff Joseph Lopinto. Multiple people then opened fire on the suspect either in the store or the parking lot, killing the suspect, Lopinto said.

Two other people hit by the gunfire were transported to a local hospital, where they are in stable condition, authorities said.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/3-dead-2-injured-after-shootout-inside-gun-store-officials-say/ar-BB1dRJBf?li=BBnb7Kz



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Gun store shootout leaves 3 dead, 2 injured, officials say (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2021 OP
Guns! (n/t) PJMcK Feb 2021 #1
FREEDUMB JI7 Feb 2021 #2
Because packin' guns is always safer than not carryin' a dangerous and TeamProg Feb 2021 #3
But are the guns okay? nt Wicked Blue Feb 2021 #4
yes larwdem Feb 2021 #10
I doubt it was a robbery. Gun stores are rarely robbed when open. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #5
Suicide mission.... ? magicarpet Feb 2021 #7
Probably some frustrated MAGAt ThatJustHappened Feb 2021 #11
Yeeeeee Haaaaaaw,.... magicarpet Feb 2021 #6
I always get confused. Which one is "the good guy with a gun"? RussellCattle Feb 2021 #8
Aren't they all? ybbor Feb 2021 #12
Easy! The ones that put down the killer. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #30
I'll reserve judgement on that until I hear how the two other people were injured. RussellCattle Feb 2021 #44
As well as more about the attacker. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #49
An armed society is a polite society... Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2021 #9
The correlation of gun ownership paleotn Feb 2021 #34
Sounds like one guy pulled a gun in a gun store. JohnnyRingo Feb 2021 #13
Thoughts and prayers. 0nirevets Feb 2021 #14
Shooting in a gun store? Turbineguy Feb 2021 #15
More from NOLA.com.... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2021 #16
and here I thought Gun Stores were sort of like lapfog_1 Feb 2021 #17
Eloquent and spot on. Comfortably_Numb Feb 2021 #29
The one that started it HuskyOffset Feb 2021 #54
We need tiptonic Feb 2021 #18
Sounds like the end of "Repo man" Johnyawl Feb 2021 #19
Post removed Post removed Feb 2021 #20
Well, other than for killing things, what are guns for? Orrex Feb 2021 #21
It depends on the person holding the gun. Archae Feb 2021 #22
Disagree ananda Feb 2021 #26
No, you can also target shoot & skeet shoot. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #32
Agree that a gun is used to shoot... and kill only. ananda Feb 2021 #37
Cant agree with whats not true. I just explained thats not the case. You just dont like it. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #38
And a Volkswagen Bug can be used as a home. LanternWaste Feb 2021 #39
You're showing your ignorance of the sport. But that applies to many topics. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #40
But I think that is practice for killing birds, game, and people. ananda Feb 2021 #42
As I said before, I know several who shoot skeet who never hunt. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #43
Then why shoot skeet? Why bother? ananda Feb 2021 #46
Oh lord. Then why do anything just for fun if there's a risk? oldsoftie Feb 2021 #48
Why do any hobby? Because you enjoy it perhaps? nt EX500rider Feb 2021 #53
Maybe they are training for the Olympics ripcord Feb 2021 #56
Same with bow and arrow. Kaleva Feb 2021 #41
And legal even in NYC Polybius Feb 2021 #45
Parenthetically, how many bow & arrow homicides occur each year? Orrex Feb 2021 #50
Do you not agree that the bow and arrow has one purpose only? To kill. Kaleva Feb 2021 #51
Yes, with a stipulation that also applies to guns: Orrex Feb 2021 #52
The person I originally responded to argued that guns had no purpose but for killing. Kaleva Feb 2021 #55
Gun control worked on Jan 6th. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #28
That escalated quickly. TeamPooka Feb 2021 #23
K&R JohnnyRingo Feb 2021 #35
Bloodbath & Beyond NBachers Feb 2021 #24
LOL 2naSalit Feb 2021 #47
Oh, yes. Another episode in the ongoing series PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2021 #25
The simple fact... atreides1 Feb 2021 #27
People dont always immediately drop when they're shot. oldsoftie Feb 2021 #31
Don't you just love when men act out old Westerns? sinkingfeeling Feb 2021 #33
Well, for once, that was fitting.... paleotn Feb 2021 #36
 

TeamProg

(6,630 posts)
3. Because packin' guns is always safer than not carryin' a dangerous and
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 09:59 PM
Feb 2021

lethal weapon on one's person while moving through a densely populated society.


'Guns shops are the safest place to be! Nobody ever been shot in a gun shop, right?'


God, Guns and Gas!

That guy was stealin' my Gas so I grabbed my Gun and shot the God-damned bastard!

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
5. I doubt it was a robbery. Gun stores are rarely robbed when open.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 10:12 PM
Feb 2021

I wonder what reason the shooter was there.
Glad he was put down.

 

ThatJustHappened

(78 posts)
11. Probably some frustrated MAGAt
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 10:54 PM
Feb 2021

who wanted to Stop The Steal but, due to CoVid, couldn't find an open elementary school, Black church, synagogue or mosque

ybbor

(1,749 posts)
12. Aren't they all?
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 11:23 PM
Feb 2021

Unless they are not, then they’re not, or something like that.

But just to be clear, the guns didn’t kill anyone!

Just saying.

paleotn

(22,212 posts)
34. The correlation of gun ownership
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 11:47 AM
Feb 2021

to violence and murder seems to discount that hypothesis.

JohnnyRingo

(20,870 posts)
13. Sounds like one guy pulled a gun in a gun store.
Sat Feb 20, 2021, 11:30 PM
Feb 2021

The rest of the story after that just writes itself.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,782 posts)
16. More from NOLA.com....
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 12:03 AM
Feb 2021
Deadly shooting at Jefferson Gun Outlet: 3 dead, 2 hurt and questions about why
'Everybody's strapped in there,' customer says

BY KATY RECKDAHL | Contributing writer and RAMON ANTONIO VARGAS | Staff writer Published Feb 20, 2021 at 4:27 pm | Updated Feb 20, 2021 at 9:27 pm

Link: https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/article_a897bee4-73ca-11eb-bbcb-df381460932f.html

Two hours after the shooting, a Sheriff’s Office spokesman said it was too soon to say what might have provoked the bloodshed.

Multiple sources familiar with the investigation said detectives were examining the possibility that the gunfire began when the initial shooter argued with store employees who ordered him to unload an extended magazine from a pistol he carried into the business. Gun ranges generally forbid patrons to carry loaded weapons in the lobby.
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Coroner Gerry Cvitanovich said the dead were two men and a woman. He withheld their names. Signs of chaos and gunfire dotted the business’ parking lot and entrance. The front door was shattered. A corpse lay near the feet of a deputy sheriff guarding the door while standing atop glass shards.

At the eastern edge of the parking lot, about 30 feet from the shattered front door, deputies set up shields typically used to block bodies from view. A pistol with an extended magazine lay a few feet from the shields.


KY........ .......

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
17. and here I thought Gun Stores were sort of like
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 12:12 AM
Feb 2021

the Hotel Continental from John Wick to these MAGA gun nutz.

tiptonic

(765 posts)
18. We need
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 12:39 AM
Feb 2021

We need more guns, so the people who kill people can get killed by people who have guns that kill people who have guns. I think!! I confused now. When will this madness end?

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
21. Well, other than for killing things, what are guns for?
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 01:41 AM
Feb 2021

Last edited Sun Feb 21, 2021, 10:11 PM - Edit history (1)

If they're for defense, it's only because they carry the threat of death (i.e, they're for killing things).

In very start contrast, knives, screwdrivers, hammers, hatchets, household chemicals, swimming pools, cars, etc. all have purposes beyond "killing things."


I suppose one can make a case for target shooting and the like, but that hardly justifies the several hundred million guns in our fine nation of freedom.

 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
22. It depends on the person holding the gun.
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 01:47 AM
Feb 2021

A person holding a knife can do severe damage also.

Guns are tools.

Yes, I've gone deer hunting, and duck hunting.

Bagged a duck and missed a deer.

I don't see any use for an AR-15, but a shotgun was my tool for bagging the duck, which was rather tasty, BTW.

The big problem though is gun makers just have to make a couple cosmetic changes, and presto! Instant non-assault weapon.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
32. No, you can also target shoot & skeet shoot.
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 08:59 AM
Feb 2021

Skeet shooting is lots of fun.
But its tough to skeet shoot with a handgun!

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
38. Cant agree with whats not true. I just explained thats not the case. You just dont like it.
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 12:25 PM
Feb 2021

I know plenty of skeet shooters who have never been hunting. They enjoy the sport. Shooting is an Olympic sport. Maybe you should try it before you criticize what you dont understand.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
39. And a Volkswagen Bug can be used as a home.
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 12:41 PM
Feb 2021

But it takes a creative and dissociative bias to pretend it was made for that purpose.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
40. You're showing your ignorance of the sport. But that applies to many topics.
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 01:50 PM
Feb 2021

There are plenty of sport weapons that people would never carry as defensive weapons. Even handguns. They're built specifically for target shooting. You'd be laughed at carrying one in a holster. And they're not cheap.

ananda

(35,141 posts)
42. But I think that is practice for killing birds, game, and people.
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 02:17 PM
Feb 2021

It's history is military and upper class practice.

If it's just a sport now, I would ask, why bother?

There are certainly better, safer ways of having fun.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
43. As I said before, I know several who shoot skeet who never hunt.
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 02:27 PM
Feb 2021

And they never have any intention to. Best example is a former GF; she has two daughters who are great shooters. Trust me, they'll NEVER go hunting!
There are plenty of things people do for fun that also dangerous. Rock climbing, diving, racing, etc.

ananda

(35,141 posts)
46. Then why shoot skeet? Why bother?
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 04:09 PM
Feb 2021

I'm sure there are hobbies that are just as fun, much
safer, and don't require guns.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
48. Oh lord. Then why do anything just for fun if there's a risk?
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 09:13 PM
Feb 2021

Probably more accidents from playing darts than skeet shooting!
We never know how many years we have left. Enjoy life. If you find something thats fun & doesnt hurt anyone, have at it. I would never go rock climbing but plenty of folks do it. More power to them.

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
50. Parenthetically, how many bow & arrow homicides occur each year?
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 10:12 PM
Feb 2021

How many bow & arrow suicides?

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
52. Yes, with a stipulation that also applies to guns:
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 11:13 PM
Feb 2021

Nearly all other activities, specifically target shooting, are at their root surrogates for actual killing, or they function by exploiting the weapon's intended purpose. Even brandishing a gun in one's own defense is only effective because the gun is, after all, intended for killing.

I don't even object to the gun's intended purpose, in principle; I simply scoff when overzealous gun enthusiasts insist otherwise.

And overzealous gun enthusiasts will too often cite other "killing devices" like knives or scissors as if these are in any way equivalent.

That returns us to my question: how many bow & arrow homicides/suicides occur each year?





Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
55. The person I originally responded to argued that guns had no purpose but for killing.
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:44 AM
Feb 2021

That seemed to be her sole criteria for banning them.

I responded that bow and arrows were also that way and was hoping for a response from here as to if she agreed. I have not gotten a response.

Your criteria appears to be that the number of people killed or who commit suicide should be what matters. That's different then what the person I responded to said.

Items like knives and scissors have other, far more commonly used purposes and were invented for such.

If you wish to ban or place tight controls on guns because of their use in murders or suicides, that is fine with me.

Edit: I have a 6 shot revolver and I'm licensed and trained to have it. Sometimes I'd get together with my eldest step-son and my son-in-law and we'd go to the local range and shoot. We haven't done that for awhile as ammo has been hard to find. The only other gun I intend to get is a single shot break action shotgun. Another possibility is a 2 shot .38 Special derringer which is something I could carry with me almost all the time for protection but since the threat is so low, I probably won't spend my money on such.

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
28. Gun control worked on Jan 6th.
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 08:39 AM
Feb 2021

If DC had no gun laws, the insurrectionists would have been armed to the teeth and there would have been more dead police and possibly Congress people.

atreides1

(16,799 posts)
27. The simple fact...
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 07:44 AM
Feb 2021

...that the suspect made it to the parking lot, is an indicator that marksmanship training isn't a thing!!!

paleotn

(22,212 posts)
36. Well, for once, that was fitting....
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 11:52 AM
Feb 2021

If you're going to do a mass shooting, go to a gun store to do it, not an elementary school. The motive? Suicide by magat?

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