Supreme Court won't halt Trump tax record turnover

[George II]

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — In a significant defeat for former President Donald Trump, the Supreme Court is declining to step in to halt the turnover of his tax records to a New York state prosecutor.

The court’s action Monday is the apparent culmination of a lengthy legal battle that had already reached the high court once before.

Trump’s tax records are not supposed to become public as part of prosecutors’ investigation, but the high court’s action is a blow to Trump because he has for so long fought on so many fronts to keep his tax records shielded from view. The ongoing investigation the records are part of could also become an issue for Trump in his life after the presidency. Trump has called it “a fishing expedition” and “a continuation of the witch hunt — the greatest witch hunt in history.”

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-us-supreme-court-courts-3aee14146906351ee9dd34aa7b6f4386

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trump's going DOWN!

[Montauk6]

1. Here you go

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/22/politics/supreme-court-trump-taxes-vance/index.html

[George II]

5. Thanks. I changed the source to Associated Press, who had it up earlier.

[oldsoftie]

61. Is there anything about what the vote was? Or was this not before the full court?

I dont see any mention in the article except for the earlier decision last year

[gab13by13]

2. That's going to put a damper on his CPAC speech.

[Montauk6]

11. Or he'll play the Persecution Card

That goes over well with those lemmings.

[Initech]

49. The CPAC agenda has been circulating on Twitter.

There's literally a conference called "So you've been deplatformed - now what?".

It should be more accurately titled "So you got banned for saying something racist or sexist or called for violence. Watch out - you might be on an FBI watch list!"

[Miles Archer]

18. "Presumptive 2024 Republican nominee" and "potential convicted felon"

Let's hope SDNY is able to go the distance on this and actually bring charges against him.

[DeminPennswoods]

35. This is the Manhattan DA, Cy Vance, not SDNY

who is investigating the case.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

3. 😎

[Jack from Charlotte]

21. So this goes to a Grand Jury. You know what they say about Grand Juries?.....

the famous phrase, “by and large….[district attorneys] could get a Grand Jury to indict a ham sandwich.”

Guess who's going to be the ham sandwich, here?

[bluestarone]

4. WHOOPY DOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel like this asshole finally got CUT, and bleeding some!!!!

[bucolic_frolic]

6. "the greatest witch hunt in history." Such subliminal flattery!

It would take the greatest witch hunt to take down the greatest one, wouldn't it?

[soothsayer]

7. Woot!

https://wtop.com/national/2021/02/supreme-court-wont-halt-trump-tax-record-turnover/

[Hoyt]

8. Maybe it will prove useful, but I'd bet it doesn't produce any info that is not known.

[Alpeduez21]

23. Known and proven in a court of law are different things

This allows the evidence to be gathered and submitted. The prosecutors can move forward with the case. Yes, he's a cheat and a fraud. That hasn't and will continue not to matter to those who adore him. But the legal ramifications from fines to incarceration became more readily available if a conviction can be garnered.

[efhmc]

28. Becoming legally liable maybe, finally.

[Alpeduez21]

34. Becoming legally liable

would be awesome!

[Hoyt]

36. He'll never be prosecuted. Might have to pay some additional taxes, but prosecutors aren't likely

to take him to court on a criminal tax charge.

[Alpeduez21]

42. That's what Al Capone thought, too (nt)

[SayItLoud]

9. He will appeal at some other level of the system. Just wait. NT

[Alpeduez21]

43. I'm curious to what other level could he appeal?

My understanding is the supreme court is it. Maybe he could appeal again with some other angle but it seems this matter is settled

[Demsrule86]

46. Scotus is it...he lost.

[JohnnyRingo]

10. Damage control will begin the rationalization.

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Before this is over, the republicans will declare cheating the US government as the most patriotic thing an American can do. They'll find vague references in the bible and recall some founders who dumped tea to avoid paying taxes. (never mind the details)

They already floated this during 2016 when Hillary accused him of cheating on his taxes. "It means I'm smart". Nary a Republican batted an eye.

Maybe it's worse than we can imagine.

[ancianita]

17. Yes.

Then again, our biggest problem has always been understanding stupidity.
All we CAN do is watch it, because it defies even our imaginations.

[mezame]

33. Being "Smart" About Taxes...

I was hosting a party late '70's (I was in my mid-20's), and there was this guy I met (friend of a friend, etc.), and the subject somehow came up, and he actually belittled me because I paid taxes. I was made to feel a fool, an idiot, in my own home by some smarmy wise-ass - and as I write this now, I recall the feeling that if more like him proliferate, the worse it's gonna get.

I'm proud to pay my taxes. It makes me part of the Grand Experiment. Of course I would love to pay less! But I have to trust that those monies are spent for the common welfare - even for shitheads like my party guest. What makes him smarmy and 'smart' is that he knows he's ripping-off everyone else and will still reap the benefits of society (or offshore accounts, if you're corrupt-yet-still-gets elected politician).

The 'smart' ones can hide behind so many layers upon layers of misdirection and rabbit holes of 'legality' and 'blind trusts' - so seeing the lid finally pried from his cold now-politically dead hands is most satisfying.

They put Capone on Alcatraz for tax evasion. I can't wait to see the worm wriggle on the DA's hook! What a fishing expedition that will be!

There will be no unity without accountability.

[fwvinson]

50. How much was Russia involved in his finances. Loans, etc.

[oldsoftie]

60. His taxes likely wouldnt show that.

It would show interest paid but not to who. They'd have to ask him AGAIN for that info.

[FakeNoose]

12. It will matter how far back the records go

Probably the most recent years have been scrubbed clean. But go back 10, 15, 20 years and there will be all kinds of goodies to discover. Compare Chump's tax records against his profit-and-loss statements from the same years, THAT's where the real secrets lie.

[DeminPennswoods]

37. 8 years worth of returns, iirc,

is what was requested.

[TNNurse]

13. About damn time.

[ananda]

14. OMG!

That IS good news!

[ancianita]

15. Take THAT to CPAC, trumpcult!!

CPAC -- Where domestic terrorism and sedition are institutionalized and "conserved" through their fallen dictator idol!

[Karma13612]

16. I am so excited!!!

[Jon King]

19. This could be huge for the entire free world...

I view Trumpism as a threat to the entire free world, democracy, climate change battle, everything. We need to destroy the head of this evil snake.

Throw everything you have at Trump, criminally, civil suits, boycotts, financial pressure. He and his family must be brought down.

[Justice matters.]

20. K&R

And that's a job for this 'Eliot Ness': https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142698700

[turbinetree]

22. Hey Russia are you listening, your playmate is fucked...........

he's still being blackmailed and this will probably expose his crap for a lot of years and "all" of those that were involved..........what color jump suit do you want white or orange with matching flippers...........

[Ziggysmom]

24. I hope Vance has good body guards and protection. Don't trust the tRump cronies!

[AverageOldGuy]

25. It's a funny world

Funny, or, . . .

We have seen Al Capone's tax returns, but not Trump's.

We have not seen (former) President Trump's tax returns but we all have seen the First Lady's tits.

Strange.

[yonder]

32. I'd add FLINO. Not sure about the lady part in any case.

Welcome to DU.

[efhmc]

39. Are you all talking about her artificial kidneys?

[yonder]

65. Those kidneys and any other bits that would be routinely exposed. For pay.

[Silver1]

26. Can someone please clarify ...

The article says: "Trump’s tax records are not supposed to become public as part of prosecutors’ investigation ..."

Doesn't this mean ONLY the prosecutor has access to records relevant to their case? What about the rest of the tax filings? If the records are not public, how can other potential charges be brought by other agencies?

[efhmc]

40. They may finally be released after the FP'd death as part of probate. That will be another 20+yrs,

To settle his estate.

[Silver1]

56. Thanks.

I look forward to reading more about what this means. None of it if familiar to me.

[SergeStorms]

27. Hunt over.

Witch caught.

Unless there's an unexpected leak of Rump's tax records the public won't know, at least for now. This is the start of accountability for Rump's financial crimes though, and for that I'm overjoyed.

[nitpicker]

29. From The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/feb/22/joe-biden-coronavirus-covid-white-house-texas-donald-trump-live-updates

(snip)
In a one-sentence unsigned order, the court ruled that it would not step in to prevent the Manhattan district attorney’s office from obtaining eight years of Trump’s financial documents from his accounting firm.

The court’s decision clears the way for the documents to be turned over to a grand jury that has been convened as part of an investigation into Trump’s business dealings in New York.
(snip)

[Dr. T]

30. Looks like Donnie isn't

getting his money's worth from the Supreme Court he bought and paid for. What's he going to do, demand a re-pick?

[stevil]

31. Lock Him Up!

For real.

[TheRickles]

38. The beginning of the end, the last act, 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th....

[pandr32]

41. Just woke up and read this

It is 6:45 morning in Hawaii and so what a great way to start the day--reading this, AND waking up in Hawaii.

[bluescribbler]

44. He still has one possible escape clause,

You could call it the Jeffery Epstein loophole. He can't be tried post mortem.

[KS Toronado]

45. Before this day is over, Qrump will claim without proof

that all 8 years of his tax returns are under audit by the IRS. Lindsey Q Graham will agree.

[Roc2020]

47. Accountability Mr 45.

Your running is over and you're caught. good luck

[Initech]

48. *cue MAGA heads exploding Kingsman style*

[onetexan]

51. i'm just wondering how many other frivolous lawsuits his team will file to stall/delay the release

at this juncture i'll just hold my breath till he's really indicted. NYAG's office seems to be moving very slowly. I have more hope with Merrick Garland taking the reins as USAG.

[BobTheSubgenius]

52. Perhaps it is a witch hunt. Perhaps he *is* a witch.

I think we should know, one way or the other.

Dunking stool!

[NurseJackie]

53. I hope they catch a lot of fish and witches!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

54. Thought you'd get way with it Donny boy?

[Stuart G]

55. "NOT THIS TIME ...DONNY BOY." (I had to add to your post, no offense meant)

and now, finally, " Donald Trump really does have a clue", says Stu...and, "It ain't pretty"

[brooklynite]

57. Trump offers a opposing legal opinion...

[George II]

58. Captain Queeg couldn't have written that any better.

[monkeyman1]

64. better hang on this, he might need it for butt wipe in jail !!!

[Sapient Donkey]

59. Amusing to see Trump cultist expressing their disappointment in Trump's judge picks

Well, amusing, but also very disturbing when you realize how they would like our system to function.

[SWBTATTReg]

62. Why is djt fighting so much to not REVEAL his taxes? My gut instincts as an auditor tells me that

something is rotten in Denmark (sorry Denmark, your Country is beautiful per my nephew who lived there for a bit!). As an auditor, especially when faced w/ the fact even before we're looking at the tax returns, so much resistance is being thrown up, that obviously something is afoot.

Two big things to look at, invalid or illegal massive deductions and undeclared income, while not declared on the tax returns themselves, cross checking claims of income, w/ other outside declared sources of incomes and payout by companies (such as interest paid by banks to their depositors etc. vs. what trump claimed, etc.).

My gut is telling me that he's took massive, unsupported deductions, after all, he's full of hot air isn't he? And he signed the returns true, as true and valid.

[Bengus81]

63. Get those damn returns in a PDF--PDQ!!!

[Cha]

66. That's HUGE.. I bet the Traitor

is "TREMENDOUSLY" Pissed!