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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:19 PM Feb 2021

Collins: Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus package won't get any GOP votes in Senate

Source: The Hill


BY ALEXANDER BOLTON - 02/23/21 02:01 PM EST

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) says that President Biden’s $1.9 trillion COVID-relief package likely won’t get any Republican votes on the Senate floor.

And she pointed to Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and White House chief of staff Ron Klain as a major reason why bipartisan talks on the relief bill fell apart.

Collins said Tuesday that Biden’s senior advisers have refused to come down from their $1.9 trillion proposal, which GOP moderates say is far too expensive given their preference for what they call “targeted” relief.

As a result, Biden’s relief proposal, which is expected to pass the House this week and come to the Senate floor before March 14, will likely wind up passing by a straight party-line vote.


Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/news/540102-collins-bidens-19-trillion-package-wont-get-any-gop-votes-in-senate

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Collins: Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus package won't get any GOP votes in Senate (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2021 OP
Fuck you Sue jpak Feb 2021 #1
I was going to say Fuck You Maine, She is what she is. dem4decades Feb 2021 #8
Her big disappointment... appmanga Feb 2021 #51
i wish Biden would appoint her to a dumb job, that she'd take it & GET THE HECK OUTTA THE SENATE Trueblue1968 Feb 2021 #53
Of course. It doesn't have giveaways to billionaires. louis-t Feb 2021 #2
The organization of whores (the GOP) for the they wealthy does NOT give anything Dawson Leery Feb 2021 #3
Uh oh Ollie Garkie Feb 2021 #4
"Republicans to America: Drop Dead." Auggie Feb 2021 #5
Yes, thought of that recently. elleng Feb 2021 #34
Yawn 🥱 shelshaw Feb 2021 #6
No airline industry handouts, No GQP votes. sarcasmo Feb 2021 #7
which is why we should just pretend the idiot repukes don't exist, do away with the filibuster NOW! yaesu Feb 2021 #9
That can't be done without Manchin, or one of the R's. n/t pnwmom Feb 2021 #47
Maybe DENVERPOPS Feb 2021 #66
Good. Bleacher Creature Feb 2021 #10
That just shows the GOP's overall shittiness, you included Collins. FSogol Feb 2021 #11
Will they? Justice matters. Feb 2021 #17
Doesn't matter. It has very high bipartisan support where it counts -- with the voters. PSPS Feb 2021 #12
Nor did we expect any, but I'll bet the bills gets a few DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #13
Who gives a fuck? Joe can state he did everything he could. Screw the GOP, I say! machoneman Feb 2021 #14
Ancient Klingon Proverb OldBaldy1701E Feb 2021 #56
Every day, piddyprints Feb 2021 #15
Guess what, Sue? moose65 Feb 2021 #16
The entire bill rests in Joe Manchin's hands Polybius Feb 2021 #18
On an issue like this. I expect manchin to play ball unblock Feb 2021 #20
Yep The Mouth Feb 2021 #30
Yes. We can all pine for a senate supermajority and do what we want, unblock Feb 2021 #31
So do I DFW Feb 2021 #68
Just pass it. She can choke on her "being troubled" schtick. Evolve Dammit Feb 2021 #19
Of course bdamomma Feb 2021 #21
Eat shit Susan! Eat. Shit. TomDaisy Feb 2021 #22
the usual dweller Feb 2021 #23
I wish I understood how she ever got reelected. ananda Feb 2021 #24
I wish I understood how a lot of them got re-elected... johnnyfins Feb 2021 #42
Yep ananda Feb 2021 #61
She was fine with passing the Repuke tax cut with no Dem suppprt mvd Feb 2021 #25
Then suffer the consequences of denying Americans a future. BlueIdaho Feb 2021 #26
Pass the bill. Help Americans and fuck the GOP. Joinfortmill Feb 2021 #27
And now a word from Ms Concern..........let them eat cake turbinetree Feb 2021 #28
So unlimited tax cuts passed in 2017 had no problem but now there's a problem. Where's the SWBTATTReg Feb 2021 #29
Betting on short memories of voters... or extreme voter suppression JT45242 Feb 2021 #32
Bribe Manchin, pass the bill... Jon King Feb 2021 #33
Note to Senate Republicans: Go Fuck Yourselves. If it were 2 Trillion in tax cuts for the rich ZonkerHarris Feb 2021 #35
Good. Then they won't be able to take credit for it. n/t pnwmom Feb 2021 #36
If that's the case, Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #37
But over a trillion in tax cuts which favor the rich is a-ok? sakabatou Feb 2021 #38
Time to pass a repeal of the Repuke tax cuts as well. roamer65 Feb 2021 #39
That Reminds Me...I Haven't Started My Taxes Yet COL Mustard Feb 2021 #48
McConnell told repubs to stick together WRT Neera too tishaLA Feb 2021 #40
But.....Unity Traildogbob Feb 2021 #41
What would you have cut out Susan??? SunSeeker Feb 2021 #43
After January 6th, I wasn't expecting anything less from them. One thing good is that we are still_one Feb 2021 #44
Do their constituents who know this not care? ancianita Feb 2021 #45
Susie, Being Bipartisan Doesn't Mean Caving To You And Your Lot COL Mustard Feb 2021 #46
Pass it anyway. We've all seen what the (R)'s do when they get the (D)'s ... aggiesal Feb 2021 #49
Oh well... All that matters is that it passes rpannier Feb 2021 #50
Nothing meaningfull will quakerboy Feb 2021 #52
What's new? truthisfreedom Feb 2021 #54
There's a shocker. aintitfunny Feb 2021 #55
easy... just toss in a 10 trillion cash package for the top 1% LiberalArkie Feb 2021 #57
Nothing new here - Collins/other rethugs never vote for anything that benefits everyday people. nt iluvtennis Feb 2021 #58
Because they're all assholes Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2021 #59
good IbogaProject Feb 2021 #60
The Repubs are the party of no. BarbD Feb 2021 #62
Here is an idea James48 Feb 2021 #63
I'm good with this. bpositive Feb 2021 #64
repukes "targeted relief" usually targets the already-wealthy Skittles Feb 2021 #65
So when people get their checks, will they include a letter from the WH ? eppur_se_muova Feb 2021 #67

appmanga

(569 posts)
51. Her big disappointment...
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:57 PM
Feb 2021

...is she can't stage a holdup like she did when President Obama needed votes to pass his stimulus. I've seldom been as disappointed as I was when Sara Gideon immediately conceded to this fake.

Trueblue1968

(17,194 posts)
53. i wish Biden would appoint her to a dumb job, that she'd take it & GET THE HECK OUTTA THE SENATE
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 07:03 PM
Feb 2021

I WANT MAINE TO GET A NEW DEMOCRATIC SENATOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

louis-t

(23,273 posts)
2. Of course. It doesn't have giveaways to billionaires.
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:21 PM
Feb 2021

Even if it did, repugs would hate it because it came from Dems.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
3. The organization of whores (the GOP) for the they wealthy does NOT give anything
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:24 PM
Feb 2021

to average people unless there is something for their donors.

elleng

(130,739 posts)
34. Yes, thought of that recently.
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:52 PM
Feb 2021

Just listening to Senators and Fed. Chair; they're so 'into' inflation.

DENVERPOPS

(8,790 posts)
66. Maybe
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 03:46 AM
Feb 2021

if the bill contained a 19 Million dollar gift to his daughter, he would vote for it......NOT LOL

Bleacher Creature

(11,252 posts)
10. Good.
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:31 PM
Feb 2021

When the legislation pulls us out of an economic nightmare and saves thousands of people from medical and economic calamity Republicans won't be able to claim even an iota of credit.

Justice matters.

(6,920 posts)
17. Will they?
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:57 PM
Feb 2021
They don't seem to notice when they re-elect her time and time again.

I wish they'd suffer from their own ignorance and stupidity. (Not really, but what will it take?)

PSPS

(13,580 posts)
12. Doesn't matter. It has very high bipartisan support where it counts -- with the voters.
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:38 PM
Feb 2021

The QOP party is irrelevant, especially in the minority-rule senate.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
13. Nor did we expect any, but I'll bet the bills gets a few
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:41 PM
Feb 2021

anyway because Americans like what's in it - something for them for a change, not the Republican trickle-down nonsense tax cuts for the rich.

machoneman

(3,997 posts)
14. Who gives a fuck? Joe can state he did everything he could. Screw the GOP, I say!
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:43 PM
Feb 2021

When they had the votes, they ran roughshod over us. Payback, it's a bitch!!!

OldBaldy1701E

(5,088 posts)
56. Ancient Klingon Proverb
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 08:24 PM
Feb 2021
bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay! "Revenge is a dish that is best served cold" (Okay it was actually in 'Memoirs of Matila' by Eugene Sue back in 1846, but hey... Star Trek II is how I first heard of it.)

piddyprints

(14,637 posts)
15. Every day,
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:51 PM
Feb 2021

Every single day of every year, the republicans prove they don't give a flying fuck about Americans. Yet they still get elected. This just makes me want to scream.


moose65

(3,166 posts)
16. Guess what, Sue?
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 03:54 PM
Feb 2021

I don't give a shit. You and your Republican allies can sit your asses on the sidelines and watch as the Democrats save this country yet again!

unblock

(52,121 posts)
20. On an issue like this. I expect manchin to play ball
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:06 PM
Feb 2021

West Virginia needs this money more than most states. He'll do some posturing for appearance and negotiation, then fall in line in exchange for steering more of the money to his constituents.

I may be wrong, but I think he'll be much more of a problem on other issues where he can't just be bought with pork.

The Mouth

(3,145 posts)
30. Yep
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:31 PM
Feb 2021

The payoff for the massive amount of crap he gets from both the Republicans and the Democrats.

My opinion is that he cares more for the people of WV than he does about Democrats or Republicans. Not everyone gives a crap about ideology.

unblock

(52,121 posts)
31. Yes. We can all pine for a senate supermajority and do what we want,
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:41 PM
Feb 2021

But as it is we're very lucky to have someone representing a deeply red state who we can actually work with and maybe even can keep the seat on democratic hands long term. In that state, he's the best we could hope for by far.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
68. So do I
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 05:10 PM
Feb 2021

A couple of hundred thousand West Virginians getting by or not, depending on whether or not the bill passes, will not forget who wanted to take care of them and who didn‘t.

bdamomma

(63,799 posts)
21. Of course
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:11 PM
Feb 2021

That is their middle finger salute to the American people. They just do not care anymore, they should just resign.

mvd

(65,161 posts)
25. She was fine with passing the Repuke tax cut with no Dem suppprt
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:25 PM
Feb 2021

So who cares, Susan. Your $600 billion proposal wasn’t close to adequate.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
26. Then suffer the consequences of denying Americans a future.
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:25 PM
Feb 2021

Seems like a great reason to vote republicans out in droves.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
28. And now a word from Ms Concern..........let them eat cake
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:29 PM
Feb 2021

and as for Klain and Biden being the problem...... ....

Hey Mainers, do you think you eat enough cake seriously, apparently your senator thinks that you eat to much cake and she is just about as close to a dingbat as your former governor, she voted to give a 1.5 trillion tax cut to her buddies, do you not understand that, she gave your tax dollars to corporations that don't give a shit about you or the country, she doesn't like you or the entire country, because a democrat's wants to help you and the entire in the throes a crises ...............JFC

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
29. So unlimited tax cuts passed in 2017 had no problem but now there's a problem. Where's the
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:30 PM
Feb 2021

initial fervor of supporting the new president in their first days of their admin. by giving them their choices of cabinet picks (been hemming and hawing on some), as well supporting their first legislative efforts? Need to throw this back into their faces...That first tax cut, the 2017 one, if I'm not mistaken, cost over $4 trillion dollars and still counting...

JT45242

(2,248 posts)
32. Betting on short memories of voters... or extreme voter suppression
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:46 PM
Feb 2021

On an issue that is supported by 2/3 of all voters, there should be broad bipartisan support as doing what the voters want should be the norm.

But, they are gambling that voters will not remember that they voted pro-insurrection and against what people wanted -- a covid relief package.

It is a gamble that American voters , either do not care or will not remember. In many states, they are correct. Anyone with an (R) will win so as long as they aren't primaried by an ultra-Trumplican they know that they can win. (Think Kansas, Oklahoma, etc) For others this is a big risk. They may face the wrath of voters in 2022 or 2024. But they think people will have long forgotten that they voted against money for vaccine distribution, unemployment benefits, and stimulus checks.

The (R) either needs the most voter suppression ever or voters who forgot everything.

Not sure which they are really counting on. I fear with a 6-3 court that it is voter suppression over short memories.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
33. Bribe Manchin, pass the bill...
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:50 PM
Feb 2021

Just do whatever it takes to get Manchin on board and pass the damn thing. If voters want to go back to Trumpism in 2022 and 2024, we are doomed anyway. Just govern as progressives as much as possible and let the cards fall where they may.

ZonkerHarris

(24,209 posts)
35. Note to Senate Republicans: Go Fuck Yourselves. If it were 2 Trillion in tax cuts for the rich
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 04:54 PM
Feb 2021

they would be first in line to vote yes.
Fuck em all

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
39. Time to pass a repeal of the Repuke tax cuts as well.
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 05:24 PM
Feb 2021

Leave the rates the same for middle class, but bring back the SALT deduction and increase the top marginal rate to 50 percent.

That’s what it was in 1982.

COL Mustard

(5,871 posts)
48. That Reminds Me...I Haven't Started My Taxes Yet
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:03 PM
Feb 2021

When I became a Republican in the mid-1970s you could have spirited discussions and debate about policies, and you could disagree on the solutions to problems. But the Republicans raised my taxes in 2018, and by a lot. I'm personally impacted by the SALT limitation and would love to see that limit repealed. It was so obviously targeted toward blue states and blue voters that it needs to go.

On edit: I became a Republican in the mid-1970s. I became an ex-Republican in 2008 and despise what they stand for today.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
40. McConnell told repubs to stick together WRT Neera too
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 05:31 PM
Feb 2021

It's like the early days of the Obama administration....obstruct obstruct, obstruct

Traildogbob

(8,680 posts)
41. But.....Unity
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 05:41 PM
Feb 2021

What about unity? Working together?
And we will still get the daily questions at pressers, Joe said he wanted unity, why won’t the DEMOCRAT party unify to get things done? Fuck GQP. Every damn one of them.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
44. After January 6th, I wasn't expecting anything less from them. One thing good is that we are
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 05:58 PM
Feb 2021

finding out early, so we don't have to play any games of trying to work with a group who has no intention of working with us.

We need to focus on winning the Senate by more than two seats, and increasing our seats in the Senate in 2022

Making Washington DC a state would go a long way to achieving this before 2022


ancianita

(35,933 posts)
45. Do their constituents who know this not care?
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 05:59 PM
Feb 2021

Will trumpcult lie and say Dems won't help them? that they're not better off?

Will trumpcult leaders lie and try to take credit by 2022? 24?

I think yes. Will their voters change by 2022? No.

COL Mustard

(5,871 posts)
46. Susie, Being Bipartisan Doesn't Mean Caving To You And Your Lot
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:00 PM
Feb 2021

It means you got included in the discussions. If you want to vote against the package, do so. But own that, and explain it to your constituents. I know you don't face them again until 2026, but maybe you can learn a lesson from this.

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
49. Pass it anyway. We've all seen what the (R)'s do when they get the (D)'s ...
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:43 PM
Feb 2021

to waste time and compromise like they did with the Affordable Care Act, then never received a (R) vote.
All they accomplished is getting rid of what the (R)'s didn't want.

Pass the $1.9T on our own. (D)'s will look better for it.

quakerboy

(13,917 posts)
52. Nothing meaningfull will
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 07:00 PM
Feb 2021

Can we be done with the filibuster yet, or shall we just declare defeat and take our lumps and losses in the next election?

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
57. easy... just toss in a 10 trillion cash package for the top 1%
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 08:26 PM
Feb 2021

Non taxable of course. See how quick they change their mind

IbogaProject

(2,787 posts)
60. good
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 08:46 PM
Feb 2021

Don't vote in unison. Hopefully we pick up some seats along with two states real soon. Of course Puerto Rico will still be some tough senate races, as they've had a hedge fund tax break and there may be a whole industry catering to tax avoiders. I'm in favor having more tax money in the islands but I don't like when it is lower tax levels overall paid by these tax dodges.

James48

(4,427 posts)
63. Here is an idea
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 09:06 PM
Feb 2021

Instead of the full $1.9 trillion, let’s divide it up by Congressional district.

If you live in a RED held district, you get ...nothing.

If you live in a BLUE held district, you get the full benefit of the plan, the $1,400 check, and your small businesses get PPP loans.

Sounds fair, doesn’t it?

bpositive

(423 posts)
64. I'm good with this.
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 10:45 PM
Feb 2021

At the end of the day, Only the Democrats helped the people in need! What a story that can be told.

The next thing on the docket is to do away with the Trillin dollar tax cut for the rich to pay for it.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
67. So when people get their checks, will they include a letter from the WH ?
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 12:16 PM
Feb 2021

Uglicans couldn't pass up that opportunity; Dems would never think of it.

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