Cuomo Requests Review of Harassment Charges
Source: PoliticalWire
February 28, 2021 at 8:00 am EST By Taegan Goddard
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) announced that a former federal judge would conduct an outside review of the two sexual harassment charges against him, the Wall Street Journal reports.
Said Cuomo: I ask all New Yorkers to await the findings of the review so that they know the facts before making any judgments. I will have no further comment until the review has concluded.
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Read more: https://politicalwire.com/2021/02/28/cuomo-requests-outside-review-of-harassment-charges/
Silver1
(721 posts)And speaks to his innocence. We know he has a lot of political enemies.
azureblue
(2,152 posts)Without fail, every time a GOPer gets in hot water, somehow something some Dem may or may not have done seems to come out of nowhere. You can set your calendar to it. The GOP has a long record of having women make accusations only to find out that the accusation is a half truth at best (he touched me inappropriately! Madam, you tripped on the sidewalk he grabbed you to stop you from falling. But he grabbed my breast! Madam, the picture shows that he grabbed you around the waist from behind but you slid down ward. He didn't grab your breast. But his arm was close to my breast! etc. ) And they were paid to make it.
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Silver1
(721 posts)... because it would be a big blow to Democrats. I really look forward to finding out the whole story what's going on behind the scenes.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)of his political detractors on their best day.
As a feminist, I think no one of his stature should have to lose his job over some one-off weak moment.
I am weary of how the "perfect-as-the-enemy-of-the-good" is weaponized against Democratic leaders.
He's doing the right thing. He was NY's Attorney General and knows how to let this process work.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)ancianita
(36,137 posts)Are you casting doubt on Cuomo's honesty?
Are you trying to be logical here? Because I don't see it.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)ancianita
(36,137 posts)level that is the most honest picture of any governor's response to the pandemic, and work to get the numbers down.
You think one pissed off reporter who "tells on" a governor should be hailed as a hero? and not the governor who has saved lives?
I agree that "I will destroy you" sounds wrathful. But it comes from the honest place of hard work and trust in the competence of his highly competent team in executing the treatment and supply structure of the 3rd largest state with the #1 financial center on the planet. Cuomo gets THAT kind of credit.
Ever heard of the lead doctor on Cuomo's pandemic team?
I can up the ante here with quotes from Howard Zucker, MD, JD, who runs the numbers for that state.
Before joining the state Department of Health in September 2013, Dr. Zucker was a professor of clinical anesthesiology at Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University and pediatric cardiac anesthesiologist at Montefiore Medical Center in the Bronx. He was an adjunct professor at Georgetown University Law School, where he taught biosecurity law.
His vast experience in public policy began as a White House Fellow under then-Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson. Subsequently he became the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Health where he developed the nation's Medical Reserve Corps, which today is run by the U.S. Surgeon General and includes more than 200,000 volunteers across nearly 1000 programs. He also worked on the development of the initial SARS preparedness plan, the anthrax crisis, and the National Institutes of Health autism summit, and led a multidisciplinary team on the issue of tissue engineering/regenerative medicine. Dr. Zucker advanced his public policy experience while serving as an Institute of Politics Resident Fellow at Harvard Kennedy School and later as a Presidential Leadership Scholar.
Dr. Zucker is recognized internationally for his work to advance global health. As senior advisor in the Division of Global Health and Human Rights at Massachusetts General Hospital, he leads a team of experts in developing a community peace index, a research initiative aimed at identifying the effectiveness of peace intervention programs in countries impacted by war, political strife and economic instability.
Previously, he served as Assistant Director-General of the World Health Organization (WHO) in charge of the Health Technology & Pharmaceuticals cluster. In this capacity, Dr. Zucker was the highest ranked American at the WHO and spearheaded efforts to globally combat counterfeit medicines as well as address the interface between intellectual property rights, innovation and public health. He is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, Council for Emerging National Security Affairs, and was a "high-level expert" on public health for NATO.
While working on a public-private partnership with an educational technology company, he developed The Afghan Family Health Book, a health literacy project that has educated millions of women in Afghanistan. Dr. Zucker has traveled to China and Haiti on medical missions and spoken extensively throughout the United States on national health policy issues, including at TEDx, as well as internationally on global health challenges.
Dr. Zucker served as associate professor of clinical pediatrics and anesthesiology at Columbia University College of Physicians & Surgeons and pediatric director of the ICU at New York Presbyterian Hospital, where he launched the restructuring of the critical care complex both from a clinical care delivery standpoint as well as the physical environment. He has held academic appointments at Yale University School of Medicine and the National Institutes of Health, and as a research affiliate in the Center for Space Research at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Dr. Zucker received his B.S. degree from McGill University. As a student at McGill, he helped design zero-gravity medical experiments that ultimately were conducted aboard several Space Shuttle missions. He recently completed a seven year term on the Board of Directors of the nongovernmental organization that oversees the U.S. National Lab on the International Space Station.
Zucker was profiled in The New Yorker and has been listed in Best Doctors in America as well as Who's Who in the World. He is a member of the medical honor society, Alpha Omega Alpha, and the Bar of the U.S. Supreme Court.
https://www.health.ny.gov/commissioner/bio/
Here's the New Yorker profile on Zucker.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/09/02/the-message-of-measles
If you want to pick a side on the so-called Cuomo issue, pick carefully. Otherwise one might think you are one of those "perfect-as-the-enemy-of-the-good" Democrats who won't support imperfect but otherwise great Democratic leaders.
Think Zucker would work for a wrathful leader? Think he'd stand up for Cuomo if he were? No. You can't honestly say he would.
But he has stood up for him. I posted the video of that, if you'd care to watch it.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017641738
HUAJIAO
(2,401 posts)ancianita
(36,137 posts)this "did not report to the legislature" into clearer, more honest perspective.
Silver1
(721 posts)There's only so many times they can do this though. The "roll your eyes" and "come on, really?" aspect is based in reality and has real strength.
But ... can't really take a position until the facts are clearer. I wonder how long the investigation will take.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)Of course we can't take a position, and imo, the investigation won't really take that long.
Leaders like Cuomo are the gop funders' favorite targets, and they'll work their money against Democratic leaders' character for as long as they can tie them up in the press -- and even the courts, if they can find a way to make hearsay evidence get that far.
"Real strength" is based on real harm done.
A woman's hurt feelings of injury don't necessarily rise to the level of harm.
If he showed a pattern, as Trump does, there would be legal jeopardy, but I don't think this shows a pattern, or rises to the level of legal jeopardy, nevermind losing his job, for heaven's sake.
Polybius
(15,497 posts)Suppose it's with multiple women. Then what?
ancianita
(36,137 posts)when you go first.
Anytime you're ready.
Polybius
(15,497 posts)If more come out, more politicians will call for his resignation, and he will be gone.
Your turn.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)If no more come out and the AG investigation doesn't find evidence that rises to a level of legal jeopardy, he stays in office.
Your turn.
Polybius
(15,497 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 1, 2021, 04:08 PM - Edit history (1)
No more more turns. We both went. You clearly are annoyed with me for some reason. Here's what one NY State Senator (a Democrat) is saying:
Link to tweet
ancianita
(36,137 posts)leaders, then you are not just annoying, but complicit in the critical, judgmental doubt machinery that undermines this party.
It's open season here. No Democrats get reported or removed for saying the nastiest things about male Democrats, from Bernie to Franken to Cuomo.
Polybius
(15,497 posts)I'm just commenting on what's in the news.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)then your problem goes beyond annoying.
Polybius
(15,497 posts)It was from a Democrat.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)Not on DU. No. Democrats out there say a lot of things, but "monster" here would get an alert. You're quite selective in what you think is "news." You're not helping this Democrat nor anyone else here with all the he-said/she-said piling on against a great governor. Not cool.
I'm done here. Don't even bother responding.
Polybius
(15,497 posts)I wouldn't call him a "monster" but if a Democratic politician does, it's certainly newsworthy.
mcar
(42,376 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Making accusations is one thing and sworn testimony something completely different.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Silver1
(721 posts)I'm not sure if it would be under oath at this point but it's an official investigation that could end up in court so it's understood they need to tell the truth.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Yet his moronic cult thinks hes innocent and the women are lying. 🙄
Silver1
(721 posts)thinks they're special and he loves them. The 26 broads are unworthy.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)ancianita
(36,137 posts)paperwork, huh? -- because two women "accuse," it's now a goddam "federal case."
AND these women? -- who have not filed formal written charges? -- they now get all their evidence for future filings for free. Pretty shady press-driven bullshit, imo.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)for the sexual harassment then I'd think it would be a good thing the victims had access to it for free.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)THEY should have lawyers. That's called the claimants' burden of proof.
You think it would be a good thing for evidence to just be dumped, for free, into their laps, huh?
Do you even know or care about the defendant's right of assumed innocence until proven guilty?
None of what they're doing is a good thing.
If Karen Hinton and Lindsey Boylan are telling the truth, they should back it up evidence legally -- that's THEIR burden of proof. Or take their evidence-free hurt feelings and go sit down.
They sound like Republicans who got nothing.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)thing that the victim got access to the evidence for free.
> defendant's right of assumed innocence until proven guilty?
There isn't a criminal trial here.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)Civil trials require evidence, too. Hearsay? Good luck with that as qualifying evidence, or even evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
caber09
(666 posts)Cuomo has several witnesses and official flight logs that say they were never alone on a plane together with just an aide and trooper present.."Girouard cited flight logs detailing Cuomos plane trips in Oct. 2017, saying there was "no flight where Lindsey was alone with the governor, a single press aide and a NYS trooper." Girouard cited a joint statement from several former aides who she said shared flights with the governor and Boylan during that period John Maggiore, Howard Zemsky, Dani Lever and Abbey Fashouer Collins who denied the event occurred as Boylan described.
"We were on each of these October flights and this conversation did not happen," the aides said."...Also Boylan is running for office (again) when she is making these accusations...and ironically she was forced to resign because of complaints from coworkers toward her. As I have said before, believe the woman, do not dismiss the accusations, but let an investigation play out to see what is or isn't uncovered. Who was the press aide, who was the trooper, get their stories, etc. I believe the second accuser didn't come forward other than a tweet in reply to Boylan...and it was the NYT that had to go to her to get her story public
ancianita
(36,137 posts)Believe the woman who uses this claim while running for office?
Essentialist feminism says that women are essentially more honest than men, right?
NYT sought her out, had to go to her, as you say.
Yeah, that's the news that's "fit to print," all right.
The NYT doesn't like Cuomo AND the NYT didn't like Hillary, either. This is press-driven hype to drive out a good, even great, Democratic leader.
When women file legal charges, then yes, believe the women. Otherwise, the press and these women are exploiting non-rule of law history to extract some advantage. Not kosher, as my NYC friends say.
Don't believe the hype.
caber09
(666 posts)Yes if she isn't filing civil or criminal charges, whats the end game here? I agree..she should've filed charges
ancianita
(36,137 posts)I hear ya and do understand.
We're with our Democratic leaders from Franken to Cuomo.
caber09
(666 posts)pandr32
(11,617 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Mr. Cuomo said that he would ask Letitia James, New Yorks attorney general, and Janet DiFiore, the chief judge on New York States highest court, to jointly pick someone to investigate sexual harassment accusations lodged by two women who worked in the Cuomo administration.
The move came amid mounting criticism over Mr. Cuomos initial choice of Barbara S. Jones, a former federal judge who worked with Mr. Cuomos longtime adviser, Steven M. Cohen, after leaving the bench.
In an effort to avoid even the perception of a lack of independence or inference of politics, the Cuomo administration has asked Ms. James and Judge DiFiore to jointly select an independent and qualified lawyer in private practice without political affiliation to conduct a thorough review of the matter and issue a public report, Beth Garvey, a special counsel to the governor, said in a statement.
Read the rest at: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/28/nyregion/cuomo-investigation-sex-harassment.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
Calista241
(5,586 posts)and it should fall to the State AG to perform the investigation, as dictated by the laws of NY. Cuomo shouldn't be able to make up his own review process overseen by a political ally.
PBass
(1,537 posts)Yes it was nice to see someone aggressive enough to push back against Trump on covid strategy, but overall Cuomo has been a net negative for NY state. Cuomo is why (for example) NY has some of the very worst Medical Marijuana laws in America (you can only get MM here if you have a major illness like cancer). It wasn't until recently when NY's "IDC" faction was defeated (democrats who caucused with Republicans!) that things are finally beginning to change, but no thanks to Cuomo.
Cuomo set up a corruption investigation into his own administration, then he dissolved the panel before they could reveal their findings.
TL;DR - Cuomo stinks, and any progressive NY Democrat should CHEER when he leaves office, hopefully ASAP.
Thanks for summarizing this for others.
I have really been impressed with Cuomos handling of the pandemic.
But in the back of my mind, I have not forgiven him for the issues you highlighted above.
I supported past primaries against him and would be happy to get a more progressive Governor next. But his tough tactics against Trump were badly needed at the time, and appreciated!! Wish the admin had handled the NH reporting differently.
Lastly, I think we need to be careful how we go forward though. The last thing we need is to have some horrible mess that somehow leaves us with a REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR when the dust settles. The reason I say this is because there are more and more Trump supporters in Staten Island and Brooklyn who might vote for aRepublican. NY is a blue state but the rural areas are red.
ancianita
(36,137 posts)Because if "impressed" is your standard for keeping a Democratic governor, you might consider a less negative and more balanced summation. But maybe the negative is all you notice, who knows. If you worry about another Republican contender, you and Cuomo's other detractors here might also consider
1.
Of the thousand things he had to decide, do and show up for to save millions out of NY's 19 million over a year ago,
-- with no info about the tens of thousands coming in from Europe with covid in February and March,
-- with obstruction and twitter bullshit, no supplies, no money, no medical information from Trump;
-- with NO Democratic governors getting one damn thing from that vicious crook.
A year later, after all the above, he gets one damn thing wrong like a late report to the Albany legislature, that the legislature agreed could come later, given that he was so 24/7 busy
and his own party piles on the side of that whiny ego point scoring reporter & legislator who tried to make a federal case out of one misstep, with their all-or-nothing perfectionist huffery.
All that was wrong and stupid enough.
2.
NOW come sexual -- yes, sexual -- harassment allegations from a 62 year-old and a 36 year-old former female coworkers.
Before Covid, Governor Cuomo has won against more Republican opponents than any other NY Governor.
Before Covid, Cuomo won by bigger vote margins of any of his Democratic predecessors in NY history.
But hell no, around here he's not good enough to be a Democratic governor for some!
So here they are, all facts weighed, ready to just fault find and throw his ass under the bus, all facts weight, when allegations -- mere allegations -- come up.
3.
I support Democrats. Not perfect Democrats. Democrats.
I don't have to always agree with them, they don't have to be flawless for me to support them.
That makes a unified party.
Unity = mutual support despite differences.
If 60% of New York voted for this Democrat;
if his own world famous Health Commissioner and doctor defends his reports in a state with 51% privately owned nursing homes, with 70% of the whole country's nursing homes being privately run, AND whose dubious and late and non-existent reporting on their own covid deaths have hampered accuracy and information for loved ones and Democratic governors of 49 other states, then
Governor Cuomo is good enough for me.
Bring on the investigation. Over allegations. pffffft
SunSeeker
(51,726 posts)But he denied touching anyone. Letitia James will get to the bottom of it.